It's possible, I suppose. Different mediums and all that. Would have been so fascinating had they tried, though.
Just for me, you have this amazing purely loathsome character in the comic to mine from - one of the most vile and disgusting characters I've encountered in any piece of fiction - just seems wasteful to soften him so much.
Originally posted by BackFire
It's possible, I suppose. Different mediums and all that. Would have been so fascinating had they tried, though.Just for me, you have this amazing purely loathsome character in the comic to mine from - one of the most vile and disgusting characters I've encountered in any piece of fiction - just seems wasteful to soften him so much.
HBO would be a better platform, since social taboos like torture, rape, and maiming heroes is much better tolerated there. F-bombs galore too.
Not read all the comments of the last episode, will get around to it sometime.
Just wanted to jump in and say that I found this mi-season finale pretty tame. Only one major death and a bunch of red shirts dying.
During the standoff I was really hoping that they would surprise us by letting the Governor and his peeps actually join Ricks gang, which could give us a lot of intense episodes with internal strife. But no... they had to go down the predictable route.
Also I thought the ending would have been stronger if we ONLY saw Rick and Carl make it out okay, if I remember the comic correctly we didn't know if anyone else survived for several issues which I think made for a really great suspense.
Different mediums and different styles. A television show can't (and shouldn't) do what a comic does. We follow all the main characters n this, so leaving them conspicuously absent during the big climax would be stupid. As it is, we don't know what's going to happen to them.
And as surprising as it would be for the Governor to agree to Rick's plea, it also would have been incredibly stupid and counter to everything we know about Brian's character. He's not a rational man willing to share power--the previous episode made that clear. I'm all for character change, but pulling a 180 out of nowhere simply to pad a setting and storyline would be shoddy writing. We don't need even more internal strife.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Different mediums and different styles. A television show can't (and shouldn't) do what a comic does. We follow all the main characters n this, so leaving them conspicuously absent during the big climax would be stupid. As it is, we don't know what's going to happen to them.And as surprising as it would be for the Governor to agree to Rick's plea, it also would have been incredibly stupid and counter to everything we know about Brian's character. He's not a rational man willing to share power--the previous episode made that clear. I'm all for character change, but pulling a 180 out of nowhere simply to pad a setting and storyline would be shoddy writing. We don't need even more internal strife.
Agreed. And the Guvnah is always about control. Woodbury's isolationist policies, including killing those Armed Forces guys from the chopper, was about control since they represented a threat to his hierarchy. The use of walkers as arena fighting spectacles was to maintain control. His iron grip on Andrea and spying on her and recapturing her was control. The examples go on and on. This is a guy who cannot play second fiddle to anyone, and makes me wonder how his late wife and daughter were treated before the outbreak.
Originally posted by Robtardhe could have still killed her and bargained for the prison for Herschel. He wasn't being petty there. You don't comprehend a simple scene.
Not because of any kindness. She was a pawn in his bigger scheme.Incorrect, Rick did outplay him. Brian expected two things. 1) Rick and crew abandon the prison, which means Brian appears as the benevolent hero who gave his people safety without a bloodbath happening. 2) Rick starts a fight and his inferior forces lose and Brian takes over the prison just the same.
What happened, Rick started talking Brian's own crew out of their will to fight with his "we can all get along" speech, which forced Brian to do what he didn't want to do, be the monster in front of his people. It was the same in Woodbury for the most part, Brian cares about appearances.
Brian ended up with a sword through his chest, no prison, no woman and no group to lead. Outplayed, just deal with it.
Brian's a megalomaniac in the show, look it up, okay. You thinking Rick could have been the villain in that scene is laughably sad. 😂 <--- me laughing at that/you
Brian didn't lose any of his own people. The same people who didn't really want to fight looked scared shitless while the rest followed his lead. He always seals his own doom due to his ego. Rick had nothing to do with it. He beat the shit out of Rick. He killed Ricks friend right in front of him. Rick lost the prison, his baby, everyone was scattered, etc. Rick made a stupid choice. He lost the prison anyways.
I never said Rick could have been the villain in the scene. You honestly don't even comprehend my points either.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Different mediums and different styles. A television show can't (and shouldn't) do what a comic does.
Yeah that's pretty much my point, which is why I was disappointed when they felt that they had to do the whole attacking the prison with a tank plot. It felt unnecessary, and was pretty underwhelming when done the way they did (refer to my previous post of how the tension was much better in the comics).
Originally posted by Robtard
Not because of any kindness. She was a pawn in his bigger scheme.Incorrect, Rick did outplay him. Brian expected two things. 1) Rick and crew abandon the prison, which means Brian appears as the benevolent hero who gave his people safety without a bloodbath happening. 2) Rick starts a fight and his inferior forces lose and Brian takes over the prison just the same.
What happened, Rick started talking Brian's own crew out of their will to fight with his "we can all get along" speech, which forced Brian to do what he didn't want to do, be the monster in front of his people. It was the same in Woodbury for the most part, Brian cares about appearances.
Brian ended up with a sword through his chest, no prison, no woman and no group to lead. Outplayed, just deal with it.
Brian's a megalomaniac in the show, look it up, okay. You thinking Rick could have been the villain in that scene is laughably sad. 😂 <--- me laughing at that/you