Originally posted by RobtardThat would actually be a decent twist--although Tyrese/Carol aren't really renowned for their combat skillz, are they? Dunno if I'd put my survival in their hands. /shrug
I'm guessing Rick's surprise is Carol and Tyrese, where they met up with them in a cut-scene and they're hiding in the trees.Now why Rick and Daryl didn't just go in by themselves to scout it out, that was stupid.
Agreed. And on that note(sort of), why can't the Producers just keep Rick in his berserker mindset all the time? The man becomes a godlike force of nature when enraged... A human Juggernaut.
Also, lol @ Carl looking all upset when Rick was slaying the fat hillbilly rapist... I think he enjoyed playing tummy-sticks with the fella. 🙂
Originally posted by Galan007
That would actually be a decent twist--although Tyrese/Carol aren't really renowned for their combat skillz, are they? Dunno if I'd put my survival in their hands. /shrugAgreed. And on that note(sort of), why can't the Producers just keep Rick in his berserker mindset all the time? The man becomes a godlike force of nature when enraged... A human Juggernaut
Also, lol @ Carl looking all upset when Rick was slaying the fat hillbilly rapist... I think he enjoyed getting dry-humped by the fella. 👇
Agreed and it seems that's exactly the reason why. One year of Zerk-Rick and all of N. America would be cleared of zombies and under his control; The United States of Rick aka The U.S.R.
While I felt disgusted at that scene/guy, I did LoL at it being Carl and the shout-out to Deliverance.
It was. It just wasn't a good season finale. It felt small, somehow. Like it was the set-up to the finale. I think we're still feeling the effects of season 3. It stretched out the Governor and prison storyline so much that it swept up half of season 4. Good for characters and story substance, not so good for timing.
Originally posted by Robtard
Daryle almost stomped to death
Michonne almost raped to death
Carl almost ass-raped to death
Rick being forced to watch it all before being murdered
A throat rip
A gun shot to the face
A wild-man stabbing spree of a pedo
and then being captured by cannibalsWhat the hell else do you people want?
Daryl came out of it with nothing but a black eye. Not really 'almost to death'.
Michonne didn't have anything happen to her. They said they would, they didn't.
Carl almost got assraped. It didn't happen. Worst that happened is he got pinned down for a minute.
Rick pulled a 'main character always succeeds through all odds' out of his ass and handled everything.
A throat rip to a bad guy that would have died either way and had no impact while he was alive.
Same with the douche rapist.
And captured by cannibals that haven't done anything to them yet. They haven't even eaten those who arrived earlier, and I expected them to find the remains of someone important.
People expected death because that is what was hyped up. They got in a little bit of danger and came out unscathed, reunited, and pumped up to wreck house. You don't lure in viewers with a BS tagline that implies a blood bath and then have no deaths in an episode that ends on a corny line delievered by the main character while staring at the camera. That is what made the season finale terrible. The writing was just all around terrible. After an episode like The Grove (which was one of TWDs best episodes to date), it should have delivered more.
Meh, I liked it well enough; that scene was fairly intense as was the herding of Rick and crew, it was a throwback of what he said to Carl concerning the rabbits. Not sure a "blood bath" would have been great on the merit of killing people alone.
We basically already had a "blood bath" when the Governor failed to take the prison, a repeat so soon would have seemed cheesy, imo.
Originally posted by RobtardThat's fine, I don't want to stop you from enjoying it. Maybe I'm just overly critical. 👆
Meh, I liked it well enough.
I don't mean kill people just for the sake of it. It should have impact on the plot. The episode just didn't match the tag line, and that rubbed me wrong. It felt wrong when Rick gave his comic quote at the end. On top of that, on TTD, they played an 'in memory of' montage of people that died in the episode. It consisted of Joe, the rando with the glasses, and some zombies that the group took out. That was meant to be funny, but I just felt trolled. I think "The Grove" episode along with the tag line just gave me false expectations.
Meh, I liked it well enough; that scene was fairly intense as was the herding of Rick and crew, it was a throwback of what he said to Carl concerning the rabbits. Not sure a "blood bath" would have been great on the merit of killing people alone.We basically already had a "blood bath" when the Governor failed to take the prison, a repeat so soon would have seemed cheesy, imo.
Originally posted by john allerdyceYou serious, or April Fools @ me?
?i haven't gotten the impression that they're cannibals tbh. why do you think they are? 😕
First off, there's an arc from the comic that loosely, but closely(if that makes sense) follows this point in the show. The show itself also provided some key evidence, though:
a.) The Terminus clan(T-clan) did everything they could to not harm Rick and the gang--they used the gunfire solely to corral the group into specific quadrants of Terminus(which were always marked "A", btw.)
b.) We heard other people screaming from the boxcars whilst the group was running through the grounds... So we know there are [many] others imprisoned.
c.) We saw a shrine/ritual/candle room filled with names of the deceased, along with the phrases "NEVER AGAIN", "NEVER TRUST", and "WE FIRST, ALWAYS" painted on the walls.
d.) We saw empty boxes of powdered milk outside the boxcar Rick and co. stepped into(ie. the T-clan keep the people they trap alive.)
And most importantly...
e.) We saw a shit-ton of human remains on the grounds:
It seems clear that the T-clan trap/store/imprison people who come there seeking sanctuary, and fatten them up as much as possible before slaughtering them(not unlike feed-cattle.) I'm guessing the T-clan are so quick to offer food(ie. human flesh) to the new arrivals because it's laced with some sort of sedative that incapacitates them and allows for faster/easier storage. I'm also guessing that the point of the shrine/ritual/candle room is to try and remind the T-clan that they are killing solely for food/survival, and not out of malice(or somesuch), and that is their way of paying respect to the dead.
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Anywho, I just re-watched the episode. Gotta say, I thoroughly enjoyed it--the flashbacks with Hershel(in particular) were brilliant.