Cross-Genre Match #1: Vegeta vs Thor

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Where is it stated he can? But how often does he actually fight FTL speeds?Not very often i'm guessing.Whereas vegeta does it all the time.Mabye not FTL but still very very fast.I even posted a video where goku(and he and vegeta are pretty much equal)and cell were fighting so fast you couldn't see them.

Pretty sure blocking a blast from Phoenix's telepathic blast is a much better feat than catching bullets.

He doesn't fight like a DBZ character, no, flying around sending a flurry of punches and kicks in every which way. But he does have FTL reflexes where it counts. That's the thing people don't or simply won't get about Thor. He's not a super speedster like Flash or even Superman. But his feats show him able to respond at incredibly fast levels and he has enough of them to prove that "speedblitzing" alone won't be his downfall.

Heck, Thor's moved faster than Heimdall could react. HEIMDALL.

And if he can move that fast, I'm reasonably certain that Vegeta's not going to phuck him up with speed.

Originally posted by marwash22

Vegeta's stamina is shit compared to Thor's, after all these energy attack you say will occur,

I never said ONE damn thing about energy attacks. Please find ONE, just ONE quote of me saying Vegeta will use energy attacks.

Originally posted by Starscream M
I never said ONE damn thing about energy attacks. Please find ONE, just ONE quote of me saying Vegeta will use energy attacks.

So you think Vegeta wins this purely on melee?

Originally posted by Newjak
Thor's contained a blast that would have destroyed 1/5th of the Universe 😬

Originally posted by marwash22
You are like a Jedi when it comes to question dodging. Answer the question posed to you...

In your opinion, you estimate that Thor is far too slow (and stupid) to dodge an attack from Vegeta that takes minutes to charge. That is what you think, correct?

Originally posted by marwash22
Ok, let's say Thor can't counter multiple attacks at once... What evidence are you basing this assertion on, that a standard ki blast would damage Thor?

So now we've gone from Vegeta beating Thor clearly to now using Thor's CIS against him? There are far more instances of Thor using Mjolnir to block energy attacks than there are of him "tanking" them. Thor's CIS has him use his weapon when needed and as often as necessary.

Vegeta's CIS makes him unload a crapload of energy attacks which Thor just blocks or absorbs. Thor counters. The end.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
So you think Vegeta wins this purely on melee?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Are you phucking serious?

I mean, shit, if Mjolnir can absorb/shield from the Null Bomb, what the hell is Vegeta going to do? What was the most powerful attack Vegeta ever did in the anime or manga?

That's different. The bomb was just put there by Grandmaster, while Vegeta would be blasting the shit outta Thor with 10s of solar system busters per second. And yes he can. Even by the manga standards...if we powerscale.

Originally posted by Starscream M
ding ding ding!

Lol.

Vegeta can't win this without his energy attacks, which easily dwarf the damage of his physical blows. And his energy attacks get nullified by Thor and Mjolnir anyway.

Besides, Vegeta isn't going to melee Thor, not based on like every single fight in DBZ history. He's going to use his energy attacks, and that's when Thor trounces him.

Originally posted by Starscream M
I never said ONE damn thing about energy attacks. Please find ONE, just ONE quote of me saying Vegeta will use energy attacks.

this begs the question: when prey tell does vegeta realize he is only relegated to melee attacks? is this before or after he gets his signature attack(s) thrown back at him one hundredfold?

Originally posted by Starscream M
ding ding ding!

Originally posted by TheTyrant
That's different. The bomb was just put there by Grandmaster, while Vegeta would be blasting the shit outta Thor with 10s of solar system busters per second. And yes he can. Even by the manga standards...if we powerscale.

😬

Proof that Vegeta even comes close to being able to fire "10s of solar system busters per second"?

Lol at "if we powerscale".

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Lol.

Vegeta can't win this without his energy attacks, which easily dwarf the damage of his physical blows. And his energy attacks get nullified by Thor and Mjolnir anyway.

Besides, Vegeta isn't going to melee Thor, not based on like every single fight in DBZ history. He's going to use his energy attacks, and that's when Thor trounces him.

fights usually start off as melee

and thor wouldn't last long enough for vegeta to have to resort to his 'big' attacks

thor would be like a statue punch bag for vegeta to work his anger issues off on

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
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Proof that Vegeta even comes close to being able to fire "10s of solar system busters per second"?

Lol at "if we powerscale".

Roshi with a power level of below 300 destroyed the moon. Picollo did the same thing with a power level below 500. SSJ Goku who was weaker than SSJ vegeta had a power level beyond 15000000 after just turning into a super saiyan.

Obviously, Vegeta could do alot more than destroy a solar system but i'm being generous.

Originally posted by marwash22
serious or not, thanks for the laugh.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Vegeta would be blasting the shit outta Thor with 10s of solar system busters per second.

Originally posted by Starscream M
vegeta only uses final flash and big bang as a last resort

fights usually start off as melee

and thor wouldn't last long enough for vegeta to have to resort to his 'big' attacks

thor would be like a statue punch bag for vegeta to work his anger issues off on

Vegeta uses those attacks to finish off foes or try to.

Right.

Wrong. Thor's durability and stamina say otherwise.

Wrong again, but it's clear you hate Thor or don't really bother to read about the character aside from the "showings" you want to use against him.

Seriously, Vegeta's physical attacks are not going to be enough to beat Thor. Especially when Vegeta incorporates standard energy attacks into his fights as well as his signature ones.

The lowballing...lol, it would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.

Originally posted by Starscream M
did you find that quote of me saying vegeta will use energy attacks yet...as you claimed I did alot? 🙄

Originally posted by marwash22
Whaaaaaaaaa? That's fanboy-level hyperbole. Planet busting ki blasts take at least a few minutes to charge. Not to mention they are slower than shit.

The only reason that their blasts didn't destroy planets was because of the reason that the Godblast didn't damage the landscape when Thor used it on Cain Marko.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Roshi with a power level of below 300 destroyed the moon. Picollo did the same thing with a power level below 500. SSJ Goku who was weaker than SSJ vegeta had a power level beyond 15000000 after just turning into a super saiyan.

Obviously, Vegeta could do alot more than destroy a solar system but i'm being generous.

So no proof? Just speculation on your part and more ABC logic? Sorry if DBZ doesn't offer much in the ways of concrete and quantifiable feats, but that's just the way it is. And trying to use said ABC logic to support "feats" and "power levels" of the DBZ characters because "it's the only way to debate using them" is just a sign of bias.

If Vegeta didn't show that kind of power directly in the anime or manga, why should we believe he can do it? By this line of logic, I can assume that Thor can do so much more than what has been DIRECTLY SHOWN OR STATED in comics.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
So no proof? Just speculation on your part and more ABC logic? Sorry if DBZ doesn't offer much in the ways of concrete and quantifiable feats, but that's just the way it is. And trying to use said ABC logic to support "feats" and "power levels" of the DBZ characters because "it's the only way to debate using them" is just a sign of bias.

If Vegeta didn't show that kind of power directly in the anime or manga, why should we believe he can do it? By this line of logic, I can assume that Thor can do so much more than what has been DIRECTLY SHOWN OR STATED in comics.

a higher power level being in dbz is always faster and stronger than a lower power level being and can do anything that the lower level being can do better