Kain v.s. The Iron Boots

Started by Burning thought7 pages
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
what I really lol at is that the game tells you flat out "so heavy even a Goron can't move you", which is clearly > iron, as gorons have blatant super strength,

Obviously not,because two people have used nothing but iron to>their "super strength" that you claim....the game and a character within the games tell you their iron...not super dense or special magical iron boots...nothing...

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Dangoro's weight easily breaks the thick chains that were holding up the platform when he jumped on it, causing it to fall into the lava.

That platform alone would weigh what, 10,000 tons or so? And the chains were holding it up with no problem prior to the force dangoro applied from his jump.

BT is just being obtuse. Dangoro is heavy as hell.

Ok prove the platforms weight and the strength of those chains?

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Precisely, that's why the boots are heavier than Iron. You're basically clinging to a title. Meanwhile, logic, math, and the game itself support the boots being heavier than Iron.

Title, description, statement etc etc. Pretty much everything that makes things canon. Your clinging to your math based on what you think is logical in a fictional verse that has these apprently thousand ton things bouncing across the lava.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Look above, I posted evidence, made my arguments, you just claimed to win. You, sir, have an incurable case of dumb.

One image that does not really prove anything is your evidence? no wonder your such a poor debator who jumps to conclusions based on his own fanon. I bet if you did not make up and invent daft feats for your LoZ love you could not debate to save your life the feats they actually do have....

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Lol no, you're still not getting this. I don't have to find an exact weight. I found their exact weight if they were made of Iron, and it is much less than they would need to be in order to do the things they do, like stopping Gorons and equaling Dangoro's weight. Dangoro simply cannot weigh 400 pounds. He's too ****ing big.

For example, take a look at a 400 pound human. They're really fat. But nowhere near the size of Dangoro.

Math. Logic. The game itself. All of these things are telling you that you are incorrect. Accept it.

Edit: Actually, I didn't even find their exact weight. I added like 200 pounds to it.

Originally posted by Burning thought
You keep saying this BS, but youve yet to make fact on the weights of Gorons yet. All this "hes too ****ing big" rubbish is just a constant claim against real evidence.

So? Dangoro is not human 🙂

No, your math, your poor and ridiculous logic. The game itself says their iron, says nothing more than that and does not make a defined statement on Gorons either. The game even disregards physics somewhat with having Dangoro bouncing so no, the game, logic and canon is all on my side.

Oh, look, moar feats. The boots are heavier than a 14.5 (minimum, mathed WW Link as 3 feet tall) stone statue.

Ok prove the platforms weight and the strength of those chains?

Lol. Ask Paste.

Obviously you will dishonestly attempt to low ball this, but how much do you expect a rocky platform of that size to weigh?

i like pictures

If Gorons can't move iron, how does Dangoro wear armor?

Originally posted by The Scenario
If Gorons can't move iron, how does Dangoro wear armor?

He doesn't. It's just that all of us are blind and BT is right. 🙄

I dont know if your blind ,just shortsighted. You cannot see how actual canon and realistic claims based on real statistics from real life on iron>>>screampastes and indeed your daft assumptions and calculations on what you want Gorons and the other objects to weigh. The iron is the only constant.

Hey, did you know that Gorons sink in water, therefore making them heavier than humans?

Actually, the Iron Boots own description contradicts what Bo says, which is probably just a localization error.

You're trying to use fallible ingame statement by a character to > canon statement from devs.

Lol, BT. Always clinging to any small scrap you can.

Proof of Kain's strength now?

Word of God and the the original Japanese says the item is question is the Heavy Boots. The localization team changed it to Iron Boots during translation. Word of God doesn't say iron, and evidence says heavier than iron.

Iron Boots aren't made of iron, bro. It's a misnomer.

Your reaching again (yes it is a favourite word when around you guys), the Japanese never say in your source what your claiming....they were calling them heavy boots in answer to the water temple in the other thread, nothing about errors...

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Hey, did you know that Gorons sink in water, therefore making them heavier than humans?

Humans that cant swim sink in water if they do not attempt to control their weight.

I'm sure that platform only weighs 1,000 pounds at most in BT's estimation as well.

Well considering it was poorly balanced, the platforms weight is not necesserily the most important thing to be discussed. All I know is the weight of iron in that quantity, thats all I need to know to understand the weight of Iron boots.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Your reaching again (yes it is a favourite word when around you guys), the Japanese never say in your source what your claiming....they were calling them heavy boots in answer to the water temple in the other thread, nothing about errors...

The exact phrase he said was Heavy Boots, not Iron Boots. You're the one arguing with the guy that made the game.


Humans that cant swim sink in water if they do not attempt to control their weight.

Corpses tend to float, and people usually sink when their lungs are full of water.

It was not poorly balanced when the chains were holding it up. When Link initially steps on the platform, it does not move at all. This is in a cutscene by the way.

So yeah, Kain can't even take a single step. IT SEEMS, no one wants to argue on his behalf, only make up excuses. It'd be neat to actually see a strength feat, but I see none.

Originally posted by The Scenario
The exact phrase he said was Heavy Boots, not Iron Boots. You're the one arguing with the guy that made the game.

Corpses tend to float, and people usually sink when their lungs are full of water.

He did not say the other team were wrong in calling them Iron boots, this guy simply said Heavy instead of iron. Thats not an offical error....

oh and the boots are heavy, just not in the tonnes your claiming.

Its also possible Gorons have little to no buyonancy having those outcroppings of rock on them. Simply not being able to swim would foil anything like them attempting to float.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
It was not poorly balanced when the chains were holding it up. When Link initially steps on the platform, it does not move at all. This is in a cutscene by the way.

I have seen it, we dont know the strength of those chains. Simply cant assume that just because the platform is large that those chains holding up had plenty of strength. For all you know, they were just barely holding it and Dangaroo and Link both standing on it at once, the former jumping on it was too much....

These are speculations, but the weight of the Iron boots are not, and the weight of Dangoro is<Iron boots.

Its incredibly simple but direct logic thats infalliable unlike daft assumptions and calculations on specifics we dont know about.

And he said heavy boots, not iron. He used the Japanese word habyibutso, which translates to "heavy boots." The word iron only appears in the english version.