Clone Commander Thire: There is no sign of his body, sir.
Mas Amedda: Then he is not dead?
The Emperor: Double your search!
Clone Commander Thire: Yes, sir! Right away, sir!
[the troopers exit]
The Emperor: [to Mass Amedda] Tell Captain Kagi to prepare my shuttle for immediate takeoff.
Mas Amedda: Yes, Master.
The Emperor: I sense Lord Vader is in danger.
He left for Vader.
Originally posted by Galan007
Yoda agreed with Obi-Wan's claim that even the both of them together would be easily killed by Sidious. So imo, Obi-Wan's comment being solidified by Yoda's approval should constitute for something.
What book is this in? I definitely don't see anything even remotely close in the movie or the novel.
^ The statement I'm talking about is from the RotS novelization...
"Now Obi-Wan did face him. "Palpatine faced Mace and Agen and Kit and Saesee--four of the greatest swordsmen our Order has ever produced. By himself. Even both of us together wouldn't have a chance." "True," Yoda said. "But both of us apart, a chance we might create . . ."
Originally posted by Galan007
^ The statement I'm talking about is from the RotS novelization..."Now Obi-Wan did face him. "Palpatine faced Mace and Agen and Kit and Saesee--four of the greatest swordsmen our Order has ever produced. By himself. Even both of us together wouldn't have a chance." "True," Yoda said. "But both of us apart, a chance we might create . . ."
Sounds more like Yoda is completely oblivious to divide and conquer as opposed to splitting forces.
Yoda by himself was almost enough for Sidious and since Jedi always work better when they are together and get the old Force team spirit going (especially Jedi as close as Obi-Wan and Yoda), you think it would make more sense to deal with Palps and then take on Anakin.
But then, Yoda is a moron.
Originally posted by Dr McBeefingtonCould be, though I think you are over-analyzing it.
Oh it was Obiwan. It appears Yoda doesn't think his Ataru and Obiwan's Soresu can work together against Palpatine and I agree. Yoda needs to be facing his opponents along, as a result of his ridiculous acrobatics.
...I took it as them simply not being powerful, and/or skilled enough to beat Palpatine.
Originally posted by Galan007
Yoda agreed with Obi-Wan's claim that even the both of them together would be easily killed by Sidious. So imo, Obi-Wan's comment being solidified by Yoda's approval should constitute for something.
Yes but NEITHER had all the info my friend. They assumed (wrongly) that Sids beat all 4 jedi masters by himself. When in fact, Mace beat Sids by himself. So if you believe someone beat 4 masters, including one that is your peer... sure your views would be skewed as well. Don't you think?
Originally posted by Gideon
I don't have to address your point, because you weren't arguing with me. I, on the other hand, addressed one of your claims.Get to it.
I see, so you weren't arguing with me, but want me to argue with you... Sorry bud, doesn't work that way. If you want to argue the point I brought up, please do, and I'll address your point in return. Your stance of... well you weren't arguing with me so I don't have to answer, but answer my question... nah
KT
I see, so you weren't arguing with me, but want me to argue with you... Sorry bud, doesn't work that way. If you want to argue the point I brought up, please do, and I'll address your point in return. Your stance of... well you weren't arguing with me so I don't have to answer, but answer my question... nah
That was... pathetic.
You and I weren't in this debate, were we? No. The question was not posed to me, was it? No. Did I pose a question to you? Yes. Was it about a claim you made? Yes.
So address my point or concede it. But attempting to say "LOL NO U ANSER MY QUESTION FIRST!!1!" won't work.
Edit: And for fvck's sake, don't try to be some sort of badass by arguing this. I haven't taken a side on this issue, I wasn't in the debate, but I can ask questions with the expectation of you answering them in order to expand on your point.
This has been done since the history of time; I don't have to get involved in this entire discussion for you to answer a silly little question. Really, not answering it just makes you look terribly transparent.
Originally posted by Autokrat
Sounds more like Yoda is completely oblivious to divide and conquer as opposed to splitting forces.Yoda by himself was almost enough for Sidious and since Jedi always work better when they are together and get the old Force team spirit going (especially Jedi as close as Obi-Wan and Yoda), you think it would make more sense to deal with Palps and then take on Anakin.
But then, Yoda is a moron.
Since when is Jedi teaming up a guaranteed victory, or even close to it? If you take their saber styles into account, Yoda wouldn't do well with anybody around him.
If the Yoda vs Sidious fight was on a flatter battleground and things otherwise went in a similar direction, Yoda would have won. After disarming Sidious (which apparently happens off screen), Yoda could just cut down Sidious, who would have no higher ground to run to and no senate pods to hurl. Sidious might have resorted to Force lightning as his trump card, but even a caught off guard (due to the different elevations) Yoda that was disarmed by the Force lightning due to being surprised was capable of reflecting it.