Killer Croc vs Captain America (Without Shield)

Originally posted by namorsubby

he senseds air vibrations in the air? WTF? that statement amounts to nothing, whatsoever. please be more precise when explaining a "feat".

he sees faster and slows down time? again, I'm gonna need you to be more precise, actually why don't you just post the feat?

Lets translate that.

Namorsubby: Wait did you actually say that Cap could detect air vibrations? Thats actually more impressive then sensing subtle vibrations in the earth, i'lll just pretend not to understand it.

Anyway there you go. This feat > yours.

http://img183.imageshack.us/f/bpcap1iq1.jpg/

Originally posted by namorsubby
[b]Subtle shifts only detectable through super-senses. earth shifts all the time, can you sense it? no, because it's not in the sense that you're mistaking it for. If Slade didn't have those powers, he couldn't sense it. You guys can't be too dense to understand that, can you? [/B]

Im afraid hes right. You guys are being dense its not as impressive though as the Cap feat.

Originally posted by Deadline
Lets translate that.

Namorsubby: Wait did you actually say that Cap could detect air vibrations? Thats actually more impressive then sensing subtle vibrations in the earth, i'lll just pretend not to understand it.

Anyway there you go. This feat > yours.

http://img183.imageshack.us/f/bpcap1iq1.jpg/

Im afraid hes right. You guys are being dense its not as impressive though as the Cap feat.

This is just one example I was trying to stress the meaning of to a couple of boobs BTW, Slade has many examples of super-senses. Seeing the atom instance. His senses are increased a thousandfold

bottom line:

Slade has better super-senses than Cap, because he actually has super-senses, while Steve does not.

Originally posted by namorsubby
lol, He felt the air whiff by as he leapt? That's what constitutes Cap's super-human senses?

This is just one example I was trying to stress the meaning of to a couplde of boobs BTW, Slade has many examples of super-senses. Seeing the atom instance. His senses are increased a thousandfold

So when Captain America descibed a change in air patterns you think what Cap mean't there was a whiff of air and he detected it? You don't think then we he described it as air patterns he was trying to imply how subtle it was.

So the writer is just a liar and hes using technical jargon for something that wasn't that impressive, despite the point of the comic being to show impressive these guys are?

Where does indicate in the scans there was a whiff or air? Is there a "WHOOSH"?

You are a hypocrite because the same argument your using to downplay this feat I could use against yours. Thats the irony of this situation.

Originally posted by Deadline
So when Captain America descibed a change in air patterns you think what Cap mean't there was a whiff of air and he detected it? You don't think then we he described it as air patterns he was trying to imply how subtle it was.

So the writer is just a liar and hes using technical jargon for something that wasn't that impressive, despite the point of the comic being to show impressive these guys are?

Where does indicate in the scans there was a whiff or air? Is there a "WHOOSH"?

You are a hypocrite because the same argument your using to downplay this feat I could use against yours. Thats the irony of this situation.

how on earth can that scan be interpreted as Cap having super-human senses?

He said "he sensed a shift in air patterns", which means he felt the air move as he leapt by, wouldn't you agree? It sounds very fancy indeed, but does it imply superhuman senses? probably not.

Lol, I didn't call the writer a liar and I didn't say it wasn't impressive. What would I even accuse the writer of lying about?

I simply used "whiff" to describe the movement of air, nothing more. he felt the air rush by from the movement of BP's jump. I'm sure that takes much skill and training, but it doesn't take superhuman senses.

Don't make more of it than there is to make of it, because it seems you have done that with my entire post in this one. You're being way too defensive, I'm not demeaning or discrediting anything.

Originally posted by namorsubby
what I'm saying is:

how on earth can that scan be interpreted as Cap having super-human senses?

He said "he sensed a shift in air patterns", which means he felt the air move as he leapt by, wouldn't you agree? It sounds very fancy indeed, but does it imply superhuman senses? probably not.

Lol, I didn't call the writer a liar and I didn't say it wasn't impressive. What would I even accuse the writer of lying about?

I simply used "whiff" to describe the movement of air, nothing more. he felt the air rush by from the movement of BP's jump. I'm sure that takes much skill and training, but it doesn't take superhuman senses.

Don't make more of it than there is to make of it, because it seems you have done that with my entire post in this one. You're being way too defensive, I'm not demeaning or discrediting anything.

The same argument your using to downplay Cap feats could be used for Deathstroke.

Ok then since you want to play it like that DS didn't sense subtle vibrations in the earth he just felt the ground shaking.

Originally posted by namorsubby

you guys are so thick.

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Originally posted by Juk3n
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To be fair he was justified in saying that.

Originally posted by namorsubby
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Slade has better super-senses than Cap, because he actually has super-senses, while Steve does not.

Wait so because it says super senses it means Cap does not. Ha.

In Frank Miller's run of Daredevil(the Nuke saga) on the story itself it calls Cap a "Super-Man" after Cap hacked into top secret files of the weapon X programs mind you and he read up on his file and Nukes. So what type of Man is Cap "Super".....LOL.

To easy. This should be funny how you spin this as Hyperbole. And if you spin this that way then the same applies to Slade.

But then again I'm talking to a guy who thinks Batman can heal a bullet to the head in 12 minutes like Cap........LOL.

Originally posted by Deadline
The same argument your using to downplay Cap feats could be used for Deathstroke.

Ok then since you want to play it like that DS didn't sense subtle vibrations in the earth he just felt the ground shaking.

But Slade did senses those things, Why, you ask? Because the the text said he did. It clearly states that they are subtle ground shifts and it makes it pretty clear that Slade can only sense them because of his powers.

You can't just say "no" to that. it's stated. I'm starting to think you guys really don't understand much of anything.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Wait so because it says super senses it means Cap does not. Ha.

In Frank Miller's run of Daredevil(the Nuke saga) on the story itself it calls Cap a "Super-Man" after Cap hacked into top secret files of the weapon X programs mind you and he read up on his file and Nukes. So what type of Man is Cap "Super".....LOL.

To easy. This should be funny how you spin this as Hyperbole. And if you spin this that way then the same applies to Slade.

But then again I'm talking to a guy who thinks Batman can heal a bullet to the head in 12 minutes like Cap........LOL.

Cap has no super-senses, Slade does, because he is a meta. That's the only point I'm making.

I'm pretty sure narration or someone else has said things like "unbeatable" or "can't lose" in reference to Slade and Batman......an probably cap too. If we're playing it like that though, Bruce is officially "the most dangerous man in DCU earth" lol

When did I say that? never, right? okay.

Regular people have survived bullets to the head. It all depends on the circumstances and complications caused by the injury, which I don't believed were specified in those scans.

Originally posted by Juk3n
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Forgive my bluntness. For I knew you guys weren't really being "dense", but purposely being difficult with your interpretation of the scan. At least I hope so.

Cap has no super-senses, Slade does, because he is a meta. That's the only point I'm making.

I'm pretty sure narration or someone else has said things like "unbeatable" or "can't lose" in reference to Slade and Batman......an probably cap too. If we're playing it like that though, Bruce is officially "the most dangerous man in DCU earth" lol

When did I say that? never, right? okay.

Regular people have survived bullets to the head. It all depends on the circumstances and complications caused by the injury, which I don't believed were specified in those scans.

Cap does because he is a super-man. Just like you think Slade does because he is a meta. LOL regular people have survived bullets to the head but they don't heal up in 12 freaking minutes and go out to battle again....LOL. Prove that there's circumstances other then your own opinion.

Heck Cap's strength has been described Preternatural do you even know what that means? Wait so Cap being called a Super-Man doesn't count but Slade being called a Meta......counts. Seriously you shot yourself in the foot on that one.

Oh thats right Cap has been called the next step in human evolution on book but thats just hyperbole to you everthing is hyperbole for Cap and everthing thats said about Slade is accepted. This is you lame logic.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Cap does because he is a super-man. Just like you think Slade does because he is a meta. LOL regular people have survived bullets to the head but they don't heal up in 12 freaking minutes and go out to battle again....LOL. Prove that there's circumstances other then your own opinion.

Heck Cap's strength has been described Preternatural do you even know that that means? Wait so Cap being called a Super-Man doesn't count but Slade being called a Meta......counts. Seriously you shot yourself in the foot on that one.

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Originally posted by Starscream M
Who wins?

Originally posted by Badabing
A sane Harvey Dent took down Croc with a broken bottle and choke hold. 😐

mmm

Broken bottles hurt, and so do chokeholds.

Can Cap really endure that type of punishment? 😖hifty:

Originally posted by namorsubby
you can't train to perfection in the MU, it's "unrealistic". DCU, different universe, different story. Batman trained to human perfection, which can be interpreted in all sort of ways, but I figure if you're humanly perfect, you're as good as a human can be.

You say "power dampener" as if Cap has some superpower that needed to be supressed. Weren't they just weight, when he got shot, I mean Real humans have taken bullets to the skull and survived. Obie Trice was shot in the head, retained consciousness, checked himself into the hospital, and checked himself out a few hours later with the bullet still in his skull.

DD must be as fast and strong as a trained human can become in the MU, which is not human perfection.

Batman has said or even implied no such thing in any crossover, ever. This I know for a fact.

This infamous misconception was born out of this innocent statement from Bruce to Steve:

"It is possible that you could beat me, avenger, but it would take a long time"

completely irrelevant and totally not in support of the "concept"

edit:

Some scans that support your argument that Cap is evolved and enhanced past "human" levels, would immediately result in my concession, honestly.

Originally posted by Badabing
A sane Harvey Dent took down Croc with a broken bottle and choke hold. 😐

Bump I would also like to know just what scans would do the trick for you becuase you seem to ignore everything posted and simply right it off, you seem as bad as H1.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Don't forget that Harvey Dent with his sanity intact is a Low Herald.

CAP with little to no effort!

Bump

Originally posted by namorsubby
you can't train to perfection in the MU, it's "unrealistic". DCU, different universe, different story. Batman trained to human perfection, which can be interpreted in all sort of ways, but I figure if you're humanly perfect, you're as good as a human can be.

You say "power dampener" as if Cap has some superpower that needed to be supressed. Weren't they just weight, when he got shot, I mean Real humans have taken bullets to the skull and survived. Obie Trice was shot in the head, retained consciousness, checked himself into the hospital, and checked himself out a few hours later with the bullet still in his skull.

DD must be as fast and strong as a trained human can become in the MU, which is not human perfection.

Batman has said or even implied no such thing in any crossover, ever. This I know for a fact.

This infamous misconception was born out of this innocent statement from Bruce to Steve:

"It is possible that you [b]could beat me, avenger, but it would take a long time"

completely irrelevant and totally not in support of the "concept"

edit:

Some scans that support your argument that Cap is evolved and enhanced past "human" levels, would immediately result in my concession, honestly. [/B]

Originally posted by darthgoober
What kinds of scans are you wanting to see? I mean what would support his being enhanced past "human" levels in your opinion?