You realize that you've still not brought anything to the table to proof that idea wrong?So Nai is basically saying "nonsense nonsense nonsense, prove me wrong!!" Gotcha nai. Unfortunately for you, I don't have to prove the idea "wrong". Your posts defending it were so ludicrous that I decided to ignore the rest of your argument and watch the insecurities pile up.
Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
So Nai is basically saying "nonsense nonsense nonsense, prove me wrong!!" Gotcha nai. Unfortunately for you, I don't have to prove the idea "wrong".
Excuse me, DS. But if you start your posting spree with a "giant facepalm", some proof to the contrary would be nice, otherwise it appears as if you're talking out of your ass, which you do a lot. Essentially the "Nonsense, nonsense, nonsense" is a nice summary of what you've brought to the table so far, peon.
Your posts defending it were so ludicrous that I decided to ignore the rest of your argument and watch the insecurities pile up.
Right. Let's do a reality check and watch the insecurities piling up, on your side. Oh wait. Your definitely educated about the stuff you're trying to argue and therefore you didn't have to backpeddle with something like:
Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
I was wrong about the timeline though.
...when Uncle Nai did run through your entire pity "argument", correct? Lmao. Shall we take a look at the other "great" points you handed in.
Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
All of which is irrelevant against superior numbers, superior technology, and a foe that can't be sensed through the force.
I'll point it out again:
- as long as Sadow keeps up his illusions, the Sith have unlimited fleets and ground forces. That's a fact. Superior numbers on the Vong's side are therefore nonexistant. Not that you did proof their "superior numbers" anywhere? So what? Ipsedixitism and ignoring the facts? Nice start.
- superior technology? Proof up or shut up. You can't? I'm not surprised, provided that the Sith rule the bio-engeneering and superweapon departments. Ipsedixitism and ignoring the facts again.
- can't be sensed through the force? Wow. Entirely irrelevant. I'll take a bag of Red Herrings with that.
Oh Jesus Christ, you have reached a level of reaching I didn't think was possible on this forum. At the VERY BEST, Ajunta Pall alluded to something that COULD have described the Star Forge. There is NO proof or any kind of deduction stating that they had access to it, or even knew where it was. Come on Nai, I'm starting to get the feeling that this is all just a sarcastic troll, in which case, kudos. If not, please stop doing drugs.
Right. Let's check Ajunta Pall's quotes, since he's totally not talking about the Star Forge:
"And so here our old secret is buried and none of us hold it anymore..."
"It...we were not the first to fall to the dark side. But we...had more power than those before us. It...came from elsewhere..."
"Our oldest secret. Only...only we would know, we lords. Only we would know where our power came from..."
" You who bristle with the Force...you must find this place...Or...have you? Or did you? Or...will you? Oh, so...many images...I...see your heart, human Jedi. I see your power, your pride. You...you will find the old place, the dark place...and you will regret it."
So what? We're talking about an "old place" where the power of the Sith Lords came from, their "oldest secret" that has something to do with something "buried here" (on Korriban). And finally Pall mentions that Revan has found or will find that old place.
Now tell me again, that Pall is not talking about the Star Forge. A smart debater (e.g. not you) would have pointed to the possibility that he was talking about Malachor V. Yet that is ruled out by Ajunta Pall calling it an "old place" and a place created by somebody that fell to the Dark Side before them. The academy on Malachor V was created by the Ancient Sith themselves. Also there is no hint to Malachor V to be found on Korriban - the only thing "buried" there is the Star Map. Simply put: There is no other possibility than this being an allusion to the Star Forge, especially not in the context of a game that has the search for the Star Forge as main storyline.
Great. So you're resting the entire Sith Empire's victory on one ability that the Vong will pick up on eventually, completely ignoring that for it to work against the Vong and NOT the Sith, Sadow's forces would have to place a considerable distance between himself and the supernova.
Either a lie or lack of knowledge about the source material. Sadow activates the weapon right in front of his remaining fleet and gets away with his fleet. Picture posted here. Argument from ignorance coupled with further ignorance of Sadow's illusions (which are the real decisive point).
So let me check. You either ignored point, argued from ignorance or simply jumped in with an "...because I say so". After I grinded anything you came up with into dust, you're now resorting to the "Uuuuhh. The Ancient Sith didn't have the Star Forge" babble. Red Herring anybody? Not only doesn't it matter if they have the Star Forge or not, because they have infinite fleet and troops anyways - you also failed to provide anything leading to the suggestion that Pall was not talking about the Star Forge. So clearly: Are you trying to poke fun at me based on your inability to debate, your ignorance and the fact that you suck? Tells a lot about your "intelligence".
Originally posted by Alistair
Borbarad sounds like an ancient sith fanboy that masturbates to the ancient sith comic. Fap fap fap.
And you sound like a socking noob, who tries to be opportunistic. Applause. Now stop breathing - you're wasting my fresh air.
Originally posted by BorbaradUnable to comply, you can however continue to drum your dick on a drum set while reading comics about the ancient sith(while masturbating) and waste your life arguing on an internet forum.And you sound like a socking noob, who tries to be opportunistic. Applause. Now stop breathing - you're wasting my fresh air.
You're the one that needs to stop wasting my fresh air because the universal law states for a fact that i am not a loser like you.
Last but not least, please suck my penis and doing so proves you are not a loozer.
Originally posted by Borbarad
The only amusing thing here, is your inability to answer my arguments and your attempts to gloss over that fact. DS classics.
There's no point Nai because you have the lightsnake effect. You will argue something to death, regardless of how wrong you are, and just hope the other person will give up. You will then declare yourself a winner and give yourself a pat on the back. I have no wish to argue with you after your "the sith have the star forge" argument. Oh I read it, don't worry. I also laughed when I read it. Now continue doing what you do best, and that's add incredibly quick replies full of sarcasm and humorous insults.
Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
There's no point Nai because you have the lightsnake effect. You will argue something to death, regardless of how wrong you are, and just hope the other person will give up. You will then declare yourself a winner and give yourself a pat on the back. I have no wish to argue with you after your "the sith have the star forge" argument. Oh I read it, don't worry. I also laughed when I read it. Now continue doing what you do best, and that's add incredibly quick replies full of sarcasm and humorous insults.
Actually you have the Lightsnake effect. You can be proven wrong and will still thing you're right, but unlike Lightsnake, you don't have the class to at least silently leave the debate when it happens. Instead you're trying to gloss over it and attempt to insult your opponent. Nice show.
And the "Sith have the Star Forge" argument came in with my first post, which means you did type any line in this thread down after you already didn't want to argue with me any longer. So I suppose you just hit the reply for the reason to antagonize and troll, which probably means I should report every single post you made here because of trolling, correct?
And since going further into detail with you inability to debate is pointless, this "debate" (with you) is over.
Nai, a better argument would be that the Sith might have that Forge. Although personally its irrelevant as they likely didn't use it for the same reason Revan abandoned it.
It's too dangerous. Period.
Who knows, there might have even been some old records from when King Adas? fought off the Rakata. Also, is it me or does Star Wars seem to be finding techy solutions to things that earlier civilizations had used manipulation of the force to do? Hyperspace, Stars going boom, and a few other things?
Originally posted by Letum Lettow
Nai, a better argument would be that the Sith might have that Forge. Although personally its irrelevant as they likely didn't use it for the same reason Revan abandoned it.It's too dangerous. Period.
Who knows, there might have even been some old records from when King Adas? fought off the Rakata. Also, is it me or does Star Wars seem to be finding techy solutions to things that earlier civilizations had used manipulation of the force to do? Hyperspace, Stars going boom, and a few other things?
I've already mentioned that it doesn't even matter whether they have access to the Star Forge or not. Sadow's illusions, which are turned into "reality" (meaning that you have real fighters, real monsters and real ships summoned) do already equip the Sith forces with an "innumerable" amount of troops and ships. And the only thing that the Vong could potentially do against that would be to find Sadow's meditation sphere (which can be hidden anywhere in the Galaxy) and destroy that. Otherwise the Sith Empire wins by attrition.