Marvel's Newest Cosmic Event - The Chaos War!

Started by kgkg42 pages

Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
As is quasar's in nature. however, power that is considered cosmic =/= Power Cosmic
Not the same thing as far as I’m aware Quasar power being called cosmic in nature must have been just to define his power in terms of the ‘cosmos’ and nothing more. Beside we have already seen how Quasar’s power works he channel energy from Quantum Zone via his Quantum bands where as the Eternal are powered by cosmic energies of this universe similar to the PP or the Power Cosmic… This energy or source of power has never been defined as far as I’m aware but it could fit in with the power cosmic… Since even the term power cosmic is so vague that it could fit for the Eternals it just seem like the term power cosmic has been used for Galactus and his heralds but I don’t see why it couldn’t apply to others since others have been mention to have PC; like Thanos.

I'm not arguing that Eternal are powered by PC but I don't see why it couldn't fit.

Originally posted by kgkg
Well the Eternal's power were always considered cosmic.

Only the eyebeams methinks.

Originally posted by bagsikdangal101
Hey guys!
Spoiler:
I didn't know the Regenerator from Resident Evil 4 will appear in Chaos War.and the God Squad gets beaten by this boss character from Resident Evil 4.How the heck did Amatsu-mikaboshi recruited this being and made it powerful enough to beat the God Squad 😱 😱 😱 😱 ?

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/57606/1468487-mikaboshi_rules.jpg

Spoiler:
That's the Regenerator that will appear in Chaos War.
Spoiler:
This is the Regenerator from RE4.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xykjhnPpNtM&feature=fvw

The revised cover sucks. i prefer the one eyed version when it first was presented. The problem with this book is it's getting too mainstream that Pak and probably Joe Quesadilla felt the need to change Amatsu-Mikaboshi into this Chaos King shit and his appearance into some ghoul takes away from his unique look from Oeming's Ares. The whole bit with Grasscutter, his armies of dead samurais, the centipedes that gave even Zeus trouble, etc. A monster with long closers and sharp teeth isn't what i came to see. I've got enough of this from everything else.

Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
That's just selectively picking parts of the mythology to support preferred characters. You can't say that Mika is more than the japanese god of evil and the void if you simultaneously don't acknowledge izanagi and izanami as creators of the earth and all its inhabitents (mutants, humans, etc.). Because mika and izanagi and izanami all come from the same creation myth (in marvel) localized to the japanese pantheon. Do you believe that izanagi and izanami were responsible for creating and populating earth? Do you believe that izanami and izanagi were responsible for creating mutants, and not the celestials? If so, then you should believe that Mikaboshi is the void before creation.

HOWEVER, if you do NOT believe that Izanagi and Izanami created mutants, the earth, and all it's populations, BUT you do believe that Mikaboshi is the void before creation, well my friend you have subscribed to the retcon that pak and van lente applied specifically for Mikaboshi ONLY, out of the entire japanese pantheon. Because if you always believed that Mikaboshi was the void before creation as it applies to the MU as a whole, why don't you believe that all the other Japanese gods take up their roles and apply that to the MU as a whole too? Why aren't you saying that the Phoenix Force is simply part of Izanagi and Izanami..since they existed before time and used their powers to create life?

Retcon, that's why.

I already gave a plausible reason for this.

That's one of the claims made by the many pantheons about how the world/universe came into being. According to the Asgardians, the world was brought into being when the Sons of Bor killed Ymir created the earth and the heavens.

The true origins are still that the Demiurge formed first and from it the Elder Gods sprang. That picture came from Prince of Power one with Amadeus narrating from mythology he likely read and not actual Marvel history of the elder gods which he would have access to.

Likely it goes like this.
Amatsu-Mikaboshi = portion of Oblivion that remembers before existence came into being

void/nothingness/Mikaboshi/Oblivion
Creation - Existence of the universes and the cycle of universes begin
Galan's universe dies
the formation of the 616 from matter of Galan's universe
Earth
Demiurge
Elder Gods
Patheons

Somewhere after the formation of the new pantheons by Demogorge, the Japanese pantheon ventures into the universe/void and encounters this remnant force and names it Amatsu-Mikaboshi. They fight this evil and forces it into a region of the hell realms where the force decides it has no chose in it's weakened state but to rule over the dead of the Shinto and try to amass enough strength from consuming all pantheons for its ultimate goal of destroying all existence leaving it the void to rule/live in as it remembered before. That's how I view things should be panned out.

The current God Squad sucks for this mission. The two in the front lines should be these two. Forget Galactus.

Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
As is quasar's in nature. however, power that is considered cosmic =/= Power Cosmic

Quasar's is quantum eenrgy/power.
However agreed on the "power that is considered cosmic =/= Power Cosmic" part.
It is still cosmic energy though

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Creation - Existence of the universes and the cycle of universes begin
Galan's universe dies
the formation of the 616 from matter of Galan's universe
Earth
Demiurge
Elder Gods
Patheons

that sounds right, although i wonder what created the demuirge
and if its anything like the power micheal and lucifer has when creation

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
The current God Squad sucks for this mission. The two in the front lines should be these two. Forget Galactus.
Agreed.

I understand its a cosmic comic, but its really getting out of touch w/ me for not being realistic or relate-able.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
The revised cover sucks. i prefer the one eyed version when it first was presented. The problem with this book is it's getting too mainstream that Pak and probably Joe Quesadilla felt the need to change Amatsu-Mikaboshi into this Chaos King shit and his appearance into some ghoul takes away from his unique look from Oeming's Ares. The whole bit with Grasscutter, his armies of dead samurais, the centipedes that gave even Zeus trouble, etc. A monster with long closers and sharp teeth isn't what i came to see. I've got enough of this from everything else.

I already gave a plausible reason for this.

That's one of the claims made by the many pantheons about how the world/universe came into being. According to the Asgardians, the world was brought into being when the Sons of Bor killed Ymir created the earth and the heavens.

The true origins are still that the Demiurge formed first and from it the Elder Gods sprang. That picture came from Prince of Power one with Amadeus narrating from mythology he likely read and not actual Marvel history of the elder gods which he would have access to.

Likely it goes like this.
Amatsu-Mikaboshi = portion of Oblivion that remembers before existence came into being

void/nothingness/Mikaboshi/Oblivion
Creation - Existence of the universes and the cycle of universes begin
Galan's universe dies
the formation of the 616 from matter of Galan's universe
Earth
Demiurge
Elder Gods
Patheons

Somewhere after the formation of the new pantheons by Demogorge, the Japanese pantheon ventures into the universe/void and encounters this remnant force and names it Amatsu-Mikaboshi. They fight this evil and forces it into a region of the hell realms where the force decides it has no chose in it's weakened state but to rule over the dead of the Shinto and try to amass enough strength from consuming all pantheons for its ultimate goal of destroying all existence leaving it the void to rule/live in as it remembered before. That's how I view things should be panned out.

That does nothing to reconcile the improbable liklihood of any random nothingness/void entity that the japanese pantheon happens to encounter would decide to take up components of their language, speak in haiku, search for the grasscutter sword as opposed to other objects of power from other pantheons or even more powerful objects from cosmic origins, be impotent and submissive enough to the scope of power of the japanese pantheon so as to be imprisonned in the underworld specific to the japanese pantheon...not to mention all the other gods of nothingness/the void before creation who are suddenly all rendered inconsequetial while mikaboshi happens to be "the real one."

Originally posted by Bentley
Only the eyebeams methinks.

Cosmic energy has been stated to be a catalyst for their other powers too. Sersi uses cosmic energy to transmute matter, for example.

Originally posted by bagsikdangal101
pretty sure the series isn\t going to end like the cover depicts

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
he looks cool there, but ares is kinda lame as a fighter and thus lessens any coolness

the fact that the god of war is posing all badass in tarterus is lulz. you got your ass torn in two (no homo)

once a jobber, always a jobber.

maybe.

Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
That does nothing to reconcile the improbable liklihood of any random nothingness/void entity that the japanese pantheon happens to encounter would decide to take up components of their language, speak in haiku, search for the grasscutter sword as opposed to other objects of power from other pantheons or even more powerful objects from cosmic origins, be impotent and submissive enough to the scope of power of the japanese pantheon so as to be imprisonned in the underworld specific to the japanese pantheon...not to mention all the other gods of nothingness/the void before creation who are suddenly all rendered inconsequetial while mikaboshi happens to be "the real one."

We're not talking about likelihood though. It's comics. What are the likelihood that a human like being survivals the end of his universe and merge with it to become a devourer of worlds, riding around in a globe shape ship in a new universe? What are the likelihood Galactus runs into another human like being and makes turns him into a naked silver skinned being that flyings through space by riding on a surf board and both of who spoke English?

There are a number of void/nothingness and one of it is the real deal. That force was found by the Shinto gods who fought and imprison it. That it speaks haiku means it adapted and learned. Mikaboshi didn't seek out the sword, he had it made according to Secret Warriors. As for seeking out other powers, he isn't Thanos. He gains power through destroying pantheons. He used his power to manipulate Alex and gave Alex the sword to be his new God of War to turn him against Ares. He doesn't want to seek out artifacts. He prefers directly involved in manipulating and destroying to move him up the ladder. Of course it's hard to believe that the Japanese pantheon found the one true darkness, but why should anyone be surprised that writers are Earth/human-centric? If we're complaining, than lets start with every alien and cosmics having human features including eyes and noses. What are the chances of that?

But anyways, it's nothing i'm too passionate to debate. Just thought I'd point out of a way writers could explain things.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
the fact that the god of war is posing all badass in tarterus is lulz. you got your ass torn in two (no homo)

That's from his mini Ares and he's on Mount Olympias, not in Tartarus. And the best thing about his death was that a lot of readers, including myself, cared and was pissed off. Essentially he went down against a walking plot device. Can't blame the guy, at least we went down swinging.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
once a jobber, always a jobber.

maybe.

Only if writers and readers have that attitude. With writers who actually cared like Oeming, Ares would be a beast. Though he was to a degree but he still needed more appearances to outweigh those past showings before Oeming's book.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
We're not talking about likelihood though. It's comics. What are the likelihood that a human like being survivals the end of his universe and merge with it to become a devourer of worlds, riding around in a globe shape ship in a new universe? What are the likelihood Galactus runs into another human like being and makes turns him into a naked silver skinned being that flyings through space by riding on a surf board and both of who spoke English?

The main difference? The only difference? The writers have flat out stated that is what happened. Stuff with mikaboshi hasn't been revealed yet...and seeing as how he's called "Anti-Eternity" in the issue 5 solicits I'd say that has retcon written all over it, which is what i've been stating from the beginning.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Yeah i would love to see them get one shotted again 😆

Bah! They wern't even one-shotted as we saw flashbacks of the fight and turns out Llan had a part in their deaths. Fail.

Originally posted by Bentley
Hey, has Puck saved Wolverine on hell already?

No he only appeared in the last issue on the last page

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
The revised cover sucks. i prefer the one eyed version when it first was presented. The problem with this book is it's getting too mainstream that Pak and probably Joe Quesadilla felt the need to change Amatsu-Mikaboshi into this Chaos King shit and his appearance into some ghoul takes away from his unique look from Oeming's Ares. The whole bit with Grasscutter, his armies of dead samurais, the centipedes that gave even Zeus trouble, etc. A monster with long closers and sharp teeth isn't what i came to see. I've got enough of this from everything else.

You mean this 1 eyed monster.

And this is the revised Edition.

I also liked the 1 eyed beast since it is unique in a way.The revised looks like the Regenerator(w/c scared me the first time playing RE4).I guess they wanted Mikaboshi to look mean and vicious.

i think the revised edition looks much more suitable

Yes, that first pic. The revised on looks too generic. It's the eye(s) of Mikaboshi that makes him standout. The revised one makes him look to much like a zombie creature. But for Mikaboshi, it's his Japanese look and odd forms he takes that make him unique among villains. Hopefully there's no spider/crab look for him in the future.

We just had a black tenticle creature and now we have another one. Marvel ran out of ideas.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Maybe meeting Eternity is one of those things that never loses its impact no matter how many times it happens. I mean you'd hope that the personification of time itself wouldn't become old news the second time you meet him...

😂 Indeed, at least if they show Eternity they could use him to give them some information, but not even that! A question everyone, from what I've read Mikabosh is now the real Death of Marvel and Mistress Death has left??

Originally posted by kevdude
😂 Indeed, at least if they show Eternity they could use him to give them some information, but not even that! A question everyone, from what I've read Mikabosh is now the real Death of Marvel and Mistress Death has left??

Mikaboshi seems to be on the road to usurping pretty much every Cosmic baddie's position.