Silver Surfer the best Herald? Explain how he wins each Battle in detail

Originally posted by 753
1. The Power Cosmic is within him, he is not connected to an outside source of power. What he draws from the ambient isn't the PC, it's energy or matter that he converts into energy to amp, live (he feeds on it) and redirect. He also has enormous reserves of energy stored within him. When he is depowered, he is either drained of the PC (showing it's inside of him) or somehow inhibitted from using it.

2. SS has has control over his own molecules, can manipulate them at will so as to maintain the charges and has survived hotter than star plasma infernos unharmed. It is of course a moot point, the PC isn't outside of him.

I can see how much you know about the surfer

POWER COSMIC WITH IN HIM 😂

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/sspowers.jpg

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Hahahaha biensnala. At the very least, you'd have to give him credit for originality. Ionization to cut off Surfer from the Power Cosmic. Never heard of that one before.

With all of his these stout Superman supporters popping up, I think need to up my Thor game.

Hey at least I don't claim that Superman can bust a galaxy 😂

Originally posted by biensalsa
Hey at least I don't claim that Superman can bust a galaxy 😂

Anyone ever said that superman can bust a galaxy? 🤨

Originally posted by biensalsa
I can see how much you know about the surfer

POWER COSMIC WITH IN HIM 😂

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/sspowers.jpg

surfer has a store of cosmic energy inside of him, he can also generate it

Originally posted by biensalsa
I can see how much you know about the surfer

POWER COSMIC WITH IN HIM 😂

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/sspowers.jpg

The Power Cosmic isn't 'the ambient energy in the universe' which galactus called cosmic power in the same sentence. It's the name of a special force in the MU like the Power Primoridal and the Old Power. G eats planets, but they're not full of Power Cosmic they're full of 'life-force'.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
With all of his these stout Superman supporters popping up, I think need to up my Thor game.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Hahahaha biensnala. At the very least, you'd have to give him credit for originality. Ionization to cut off Surfer from the Power Cosmic. Never heard of that one before.

With all of his these stout Superman supporters popping up, I think need to up my Thor game.

yeah, cos you're not bad enough already.

uhuh

You think I'm bad now? Wait till you see when I'm really trying. arrrgh

Originally posted by biensalsa
Hey at least I don't claim that Superman can bust a galaxy 😂

Never? Still, I wouldn't put it past you. vin

Originally posted by biensalsa
I can see how much you know about the surfer

POWER COSMIC WITH IN HIM 😂

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/sspowers.jpg

Its within him, infact it replaces his life force..

And in case you didn't see my other post, here is a quote..

Originally posted by Ambient
Biensalsa:

OY!

Your logic states wrap Surfer in an Ion field therefore cutting him of from any energy going in and out, right.. right..

Ref. in the scan:

You see an ionic field in the form of Wonder Man.. See a beam of energy coming out of Surfer. Now in accordance to your logic it should be impossible for that beam of energy to inter the ionize field however this was not the case as ref. in the scan the beam of energy not only interred but modulate the field..

Your method is not going to work as Surfer's power is immune to IONIZATION 😱 ..

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Hahahaha biensnala. At the very least, you'd have to give him credit for originality. Ionization to cut off Surfer from the Power Cosmic. Never heard of that one before.

With all of his these stout Superman supporters popping up, I think need to up my Thor game.

Least his got that going for him...

HV IONIZATION PAWNS ALL!!! Thor/Mjonir ain't got no counter to such force, so maybe you should 😱 ..

i wonder if heat vision can do this with source powered individuals also...

edit - I know one who might think so.. lol

Originally posted by Ambient
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Its within him, infact it replaces his life force..

And in case you didn't see my other post, here is a quote..

😂

Least his got that going for him...

HV IONIZATION PAWNS ALL!!! Thor/Mjonir ain't got no counter to such force, so maybe you should 😱 ..

That will be stupid, Mjolnir is a magical item with magical energies and a magical cannection to it's power source, YOU DO THE MATH BRAINIAC

Anyhow, I have to say, pretty good scan there and I will have conceded IF Silver Surfer were not full of inconsistencies. My scan contradicts yours and mine is comming from GALACTUS itself, so you do the math. Not only that but this too:

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/SS/1-1.jpg

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/SS/4.jpg

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/SS/3.jpg

Seriously if I keep looking I can find a lot more things that will point at the SS is a receptacle for ambient energy, rather than a producer of cosmic force.

So, thanks to the writters who cannot get their minds together to really explain what is the cosmic power. I think it will be better to leave it at that.

If SS produces the cosmic power then Superman cannot cut him from his power source

If SS does not produces Cosmic Power and He is just a receptacle, then Superman COULD cut him from his power source.

Anyhow, THE LAST SCAN explains that the BOARD is made from the SAME MATERIAL as the Silver Surfer's skin, So I guess enough heat will destroy his body, like firelord destroyed his board.

Originally posted by Ambient
❌

Its within him, infact it replaces his life force..

And in case you didn't see my other post, here is a quote..

😂

Least his got that going for him...

HV IONIZATION PAWNS ALL!!! Thor/Mjonir ain't got no counter to such force, so maybe you should 😱 ..

Plus ISN'T THAT SCAN FROM ANNHILATION? WHICH IS NOT CANON

Originally posted by biensalsa
Anyhow, THE LAST SCAN explains that the BOARD is made from the SAME MATERIAL as the Silver Surfer's skin, So I guess enough heat will destroy his body, like firelord destroyed his board.

Originally posted by biensalsa
Plus ISN'T THAT SCAN FROM ANNHILATION? WHICH IS NOT CANON

Originally posted by biensalsa
That will be stupid, Mjolnir is a magical item with magical energies and a magical cannection to it's power source, YOU DO THE MATH BRAINIAC

Anyhow, I have to say, pretty good scan there and I will have conceded IF Silver Surfer were not full of inconsistencies. My scan contradicts yours and mine is comming from GALACTUS itself, so you do the math. Not only that but this too:

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/SS/1-1.jpg

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/SS/4.jpg

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/SS/3.jpg

Seriously if I keep looking I can find a lot more things that will point at the SS is a receptacle for ambient energy, rather than a producer of cosmic force.

So, thanks to the writters who cannot get their minds together to really explain what is the cosmic power. I think it will be better to leave it at that.

If SS produces the cosmic power then Superman cannot cut him from his power source

If SS does not produces Cosmic Power and He is just a receptacle, then Superman COULD cut him from his power source.

Anyhow, THE LAST SCAN explains that the BOARD is made from the SAME MATERIAL as the Silver Surfer's skin, So I guess enough heat will destroy his body, like firelord destroyed his board.

Galactus eats planets to survive and yet the PC is within him as the very canon scan of annihilation proves. The same goes for SS he uses ambient energy to survive (he eats it), to redirect, to amp, to fill his power batteries, but the PC is within him, it's his superpower. Even if you could cut him off from ambient energy, he'd still be able to use the powers he has and would have some energy stored within him. He simply wouldn't be able to gather anymore and of course he'd still be able to turn the ion field into butterflies.

SM, for instance, is fed by sunlight, but his powers aren't sunlight, they're a part of his being. He can only be depowered by energy depletion - not enough to juice to fuel his powers - or red star/k-nite poisoning. Cutting him off from the sun doesn't depower him.

Furthermore, the SS has been to dimensions where neither stars nor the PC exist and done fine, because the power is within him.

Galactus's monologue in your scan says nothing about the PC being external to either him or the SS. The second scan you posted shows an inconsistency, that's true, but even thet cold be explained away as the writer ignoring his reserves and him being cut off from food. Annihilation is more recent and all other showings have the SS accessing the PC at will even in limbos with nothing in them. The fact that Doom managed to drain it from the surfer, instead of creating an antenna to tap into this mysterious external force in the universe that's just out there for the taking but has never been see anywhere called the PC, shows it was within him.

Originally posted by biensalsa
That will be stupid, Mjolnir is a magical item with magical energies and a magical cannection to it's power source, YOU DO THE MATH BRAINIAC

Anyhow, I have to say, pretty good scan there and I will have conceded IF Silver Surfer were not full of inconsistencies. My scan contradicts yours and mine is comming from GALACTUS itself, so you do the math. Not only that but this too:

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/SS/1-1.jpg

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/SS/4.jpg

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/SS/3.jpg

Seriously if I keep looking I can find a lot more things that will point at the SS is a receptacle for ambient energy, rather than a producer of cosmic force.

So, thanks to the writters who cannot get their minds together to really explain what is the cosmic power. I think it will be better to leave it at that.

If SS produces the cosmic power then Superman cannot cut him from his power source

If SS does not produces Cosmic Power and He is just a receptacle, then Superman COULD cut him from his power source.

Anyhow, THE LAST SCAN explains that the BOARD is made from the SAME MATERIAL as the Silver Surfer's skin, So I guess enough heat will destroy his body, like firelord destroyed his board.

lmfao. This guy just said annihilation is not canon. Trolling at its finest

Originally posted by Naija boy
lmfao. This guy just said annihilation is not canon. Trolling at its finest

"During the Annihilation fictional crossover event, the Power Cosmic was revealed to be a force that replaces the "auras" (or souls) of the characters imbued with its properties, causing each wielders' body and physical form to uniquely adapt in order to store and control the Power Cosmic"

Can somebody who is not in the SS camp verify the source of that scan? I just want to make sure is not from a non-canon issue

Originally posted by biensalsa
"During the Annihilation fictional crossover event, the Power Cosmic was revealed to be a force that replaces the "auras" (or souls) of the characters imbued with its properties, causing each wielders' body and physical form to uniquely adapt in order to store and control the Power Cosmic"

Can somebody who is not in the SS camp verify the source of that scan? I just want to make sure is not from a non-canon issue

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annihilation_(comics)

Originally posted by 753
Galactus eats planets to survive and yet the PC is within him as the very canon scan of annihilation proves. The same goes for SS he uses ambient energy to survive (he eats it), to redirect, to amp, to fill his power batteries, but the PC is within him, it's his superpower. Even if you could cut him off from ambient energy, he'd still be able to use the powers he has and would have some energy stored within him. He simply wouldn't be able to gather anymore and of course he'd still be able to turn the ion field into butterflies.

SM, for instance, is fed by sunlight, but his powers aren't sunlight, they're a part of his being. He can only be depowered by energy depletion - not enough to juice to fuel his powers - or red star/k-nite poisoning. Cutting him off from the sun doesn't depower him.

Furthermore, the SS has been to dimensions where neither stars nor the PC exist and done fine, because the power is within him.

Galactus's monologue in your scan says nothing about the PC being external to either him or the SS. The second scan you posted shows an inconsistency, that's true, but even thet cold be explained away as the writer ignoring his reserves and him being cut off from food. Annihilation is more recent and all other showings have the SS accessing the PC at will even in limbos with nothing in them. The fact that Doom managed to drain it from the surfer, instead of creating an antenna to tap into this mysterious external force in the universe that's just out there for the taking but has never been see anywhere called the PC, shows it was within him.

DON'T GIVE ME THAT BULL.

You do not accept feats of Superman for All Star Superman. Why should We accept feats of a non canon issue? just because according to you they are "similar"?

Please.

And read the post before. The description of the "cosmic power" is at best vague and it has so many contradictions.

I said IF it comes from with in, then SUPERMAN'S IONIZATION won't work

But if it does not, then is different!

Based on the descriptions of the "power cosmic" you cannot know for sure.

At best We agree to disagree on this.