Silver Surfer the best Herald? Explain how he wins each Battle in detail

Started by Ambient31 pages

Originally posted by paisapower
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I believe the affect would be just as u say. Surfer would indeed counter it. Could he however open himself up to a follow up attack as he counters the ionization ? Also, why couldnt supes also evade surfers drain attempt which u credit with an instant KO ?

why not, all it does is interupt the auto absorb if we take into account that ionazation would work..

yes, that is all it would take..

Yes, SS's been to dimensions full of nothing and functioned just fine. Salsa found one scan in his savenger hunt of vengeance where he is compared to a fawcet and the PC is said to be external, but this is the odd portrayal standing out. All the others are consistant with the annilihation explanation, specially the ones where portions of the actual PC, not just his energy reserves are said to be drained from inside him by others.

Originally posted by paisapower
I see ,so all this happens instantly and an omni blast is all it takes.
well, maybe not. the speed at which SM is depowered varies a lot from a story to another, but with a strong enough pulse he probably could.

probably the only odd one out there...

Originally posted by 753
well, maybe not. the speed at which SM is depowered varies a lot from a story to another, but with a strong enough pulse he probably could.

It seems to me that youre basing this insta KO on low showings

Originally posted by 753
well, maybe not. the speed at which SM is depowered varies a lot from a story to another, but with a strong enough pulse he probably could.

During Infinite Crisis Superman was able to pass through the core of a red sun and still keep his durability long enough to not be instantly incinerated and reach Mogo's surface. Even then Prime's heat vision didn't immediately incinerate him implying that he still had some power left afterward.

During Final Night it took days for his powers to weaken when the sun was dying.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
During Infinite Crisis Superman was able to pass through the core of a red sun and still keep his durability long enough to not be instantly incinerated and reach Mogo's surface. Even then Prime's heat vision didn't immediately incinerate him implying that he still had some power left afterward.

During Final Night it took days for his powers to weaken when the sun was dying.

Seems to me some people need to catch up on their superman reading

Originally posted by 753
well, maybe not. the speed at which SM is depowered varies a lot from a story to another, but with a strong enough pulse he probably could.

I agree with this: Example... Amazon shot Superman with a mere blast that had a dose of red sunlight and it dropped him. Then Superman was healed by Zatanna and got one shotted again by the same blast.

Originally posted by paisapower
It seems to me that youre basing this insta KO on low showings

Originally posted by Omega Vision
During Infinite Crisis Superman was able to pass through the core of a red sun and still keep his durability long enough to not be instantly incinerated and reach Mogo's surface. Even then Prime's heat vision didn't immediately incinerate him implying that he still had some power left afterward.

During Final Night it took days for his powers to weaken when the sun was dying.

Yes, like I said, it varies a lot depending on the writer and the convenience to the story, but it's reasonable to assume that a sufficiently strong pulse could do it immediatelly. Whether or not SS can deliver that much red star radiation in a single blast - or drain that much power from SM at once - would be another discussion.

Originally posted by carver9
I agree with this: Example... Amazon shot Superman with a mere blast that had a dose of red sunlight and it dropped him. Then Superman was healed by Zatanna and got one shotted again by the same blast.

And this overides supes tanking red sun blasts from a sun eater ?

Originally posted by paisapower
And this overides supes tanking red sun blasts from a sun eater ?

Nope, it doesnt over ride it, this is where we have to find a medium because he has high showings of tanking red sunlight and he also have low showings.

Originally posted by carver9
Nope, it doesnt over ride it, this is where we have to find a medium because he has high showings of tanking red sunlight and he also have low showings.

And thats the point I wanted to make ,so lets come to this mid point.

Originally posted by 753
well, maybe not. the speed at which SM is depowered varies a lot from a story to another, but with a strong enough pulse he probably could.

I'm posting really fast, because I don't have enough time, but the argument is pretty good.

Also if Superman can IONIZE air He also can Ionize bodies. In the end IONIZATION is done at molecular level.

Ionization is the physical process of converting an atom or molecule into an ion by adding or removing charged particles such as electrons or other ions.

http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/ionization

but is a big step. You guys are saying that ionization COULD work
Iwonder if it was the scan of Reed using a ion disruptor to depower galactus, what changed your mind

^ Ionization would not work. It hasn't affected Surfer. And it's stupid to think it would.

@ Biensalsa:

We didn't say it will work..

So now your matter/energy manipulating Surfer body? Using HV?

Do you know how freaking stupid that is..

Nobody believes it would work, we're sayong that even if it did cut SS out from ambient energy, and it wouldn't, he still wouldn't be depowered.

Reed's pseudscience gizmos with terms like mutagenic and ionizing aren't convincing anyone.

Originally posted by Ambient
@ Biensalsa:

We didn't say it will work..

So now your matter/energy manipulating Surfer body? Using HV?

Do you know how freaking stupid that is..

According to your scan (Annihilation) PC attaches to the soul

If that is true, the SS can produce his own power, then EXPLAIN why he was depowered fighting Black Panther in 2007? Why he got depowered vs RULK? Do you have any idea how stupid that sounds?

If He creates his own PC, when someone steals his energy, why He does not produces more? Why He does not produces more and overloads any machine trying to steal his energy if the PC is infinite?

No matter of the syphoning is biological, IF the PC is from the soul, then He will produce more until it overloads the Syphon.

Reed Richards removed the PC from Jhonny Storm. He did not died.

ANNIHILATION explination COULD ONLY WORK FOR ENERGY BEINGS LIKE GALACTUS.

Originally posted by dmills
Either way, I think both of you have presented some interesting analysis that calls for further investigation.

Salsa, you make an interesting case, but cut back on the scan-a-thon, let it marinate.

😂 @ cut back on the scan-a-thon, let it marinate

And I did not included ALL SS vol. 3 😄

Originally posted by Ambient

😂 @ the faucet analog..

😂

"You channel it true, you control it. but you no more possess it than a spigot (fawcet) possesses the water that flows through"

Originally posted by Ambient

Take a look at this scan..

In accordance to your logic both this herald of Galactus should have drop dead right at the moment they entired the event horizon of teh blackhole cause well they've got cut of from the source of their powers, right? yet the hell they're doing but utilizing the power cosmic..

Yes and According to theory Superman should not be able to survive inside a double black hole or hold a mini black hole in his hand.
Because the solar energy will get drain out of him. DOES THAT MEANS SUPERMAN PRODUCES HIS OWN SOLAR ENERGY 😂

If you concede that Superman produces his own solar energy then I concede SS produces his own PC 😄

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