Cross Genre Thread #5: Iron Spider-Man vs Kain (LoK) in NYC

Started by BruceSkywalker10 pages

Iron Spidey for the majority

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
He wakes up in BO2 without any of his former spells. This is sort of a major plot point. He may have used it in the battle before he lost to the Sarafan Lord, but he lost it none the less. The Sarafan lord even took the reaver from him.

Actually, he does. He overcame a bunch of nanobots under the control of Doc Ock. 😐 Since Kain's only spells of mind control are 100% featless and only work on Mooks, not any named characters that I know of, why would they work on Pete?

He used it in the intro video of SR2 😬

I said telekinesis, not telepathy.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Not entirely sure what you mean by AGAINST

but here is one, Kris Blaze once said one of these guys has TK not sure which one though I only know Firestar and Speedball.
http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/4769/agilityavoids5superhuma.jpg

And he fought Typhod Mary

But going by the description of the spell list I most likely change my opinion.

Speedball and Firestar I recognize. They don't have TK. Justice does (and yes, he's here). I dunno what he was thinking, but it's PIS if his powers didn't work on Peter. Maybe he couldn't get a beat on him? Well, Kain does have superhuman reflexes, so it shouldn't be hard...

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He used it in the intro video of SR2 😬

I said telekinesis, not telepathy.

Speedball and Firestar I recognize. They don't have TK. Justice does (and yes, he's here). I dunno what he was thinking, but it's PIS if his powers didn't work on Peter. Maybe he couldn't get a beat on him? Well, Kain does have superhuman reflexes, so it shouldn't be hard...


Musta been something else. 😐 Him losing all his shit is a large plot point in BO2.

Misread, also, I already explained why TK isn't that useful, Spidey can escape it, and catching him is very unlikely.

......Did you say Kain has superhuman reflexes? Feat please, because he's never once demonstrated this. 😐

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Musta been something else. 😐 Him losing all his shit is a large plot point in BO2.

Pretty sure it was Repel. If it were just a similar spell, it would still pwn Peter.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Misread, also, I already explained why TK isn't that useful, Spidey can escape it, and catching him is very unlikely.

Has he ever escaped it the way you described...?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
......Did you say Kain has superhuman reflexes? Feat please, because he's never once demonstrated this. 😐

Oh, that's pretty simple. You react much faster than NPCs, right? biscuits

Sorry, I've never seen a point in bringing computer game characters in this kind of debate...

Pretty sure it was Repel. If it were just a similar spell, it would still pwn Peter.
IIRC Repel only works on spells anyway. 😐

Has he ever escaped it the way you described...?
I believe so actually, owned a comic where he fought a telekinetic who's name I forget in the 90's. She drew a line down the center of her face and stuff. mmm

Oh, that's pretty simple. You react much faster than NPCs, right?

Sorry, I've never seen a point in bringing computer game characters in this kind of debate...

Wait, wut. 😐

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I believe so actually, owned a comic where he fought a telekinetic who's name I forget in the 90's. She drew a line down the center of her face and stuff. mmm
Typhoid Mary

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Typhoid Mary
Thank you kindly, sir.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Musta been something else. 😐 Him losing all his shit is a large plot point in BO2.

Misread, also, I already explained why TK isn't that useful, Spidey can escape it, and catching him is very unlikely.

......Did you say Kain has superhuman reflexes? Feat please, because he's never once demonstrated this. 😐

So you missed the part where it was a major plot point where Kin was stronger, faster, stronger than any mortal man by a mile while weakened. Wow.

You know you said stronger twice, right?

How much stronger? How much faster? Spider-Man is a lot stronger and faster than any human, too.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
You know you said stronger twice, right?

How much stronger? How much faster? Spider-Man is a lot stronger and faster than any human, too.

He questioned his superhuman reflexes I corrected him. It's a major point in the game he's wrong I am right.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He questioned his superhuman reflexes I corrected him. It's a major point in the game he's wrong I am right.
No, you're not, because Kain has never once, ever demonstrated superhuman reflexes. Find me a feat.

Edit: Also, "faster" is vauge, he might just be able to sprint better than Ben Johnson assuming the quote's not a piece of crappy hyperbole.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
No, you're not, because Kain has [b]never once, ever demonstrated superhuman reflexes. Find me a feat.

Edit: Also, "faster" is vauge, he might just be able to sprint better than Ben Johnson assuming the quote's not a piece of crappy hyperbole. [/B]

Did you play blood omen 2?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Did you play blood omen 2?
Yes, beat it.

Kain never once demonstrated superhuman reflexes through out the entire game.

You should provide proof instead of calling him wrong because he may not have played the game.

I think he did, anyway. Lol.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Yes, beat it.

Kain never once demonstrated superhuman reflexes through out the entire game.

Then you never played the game I take it.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
You should provide proof instead of calling him wrong because he may not have played the game.

I think he did, anyway. Lol.

I'll get to that.

UMAH
Your memory has been shattered, and your body has lain dormant for two hundred years. What skills you had must be recovered before you can be of any use to the Cabal. You must learn to fight, and to survive.

KAIN
I thought you were taking me to feed.

UMAH
Patience, vampire. First, know that you are stronger and faster than mortal men, able to jump higher and farther than any human that ever lived. When your path is blocked, seek for a place to jump. Now, join me up here.

“Kain” leaps up to join Umah on the ledge above.

K, so he's above any human from LoK. Neat.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
K, so he's above any human from LoK. Neat.
Yes, at his weakest he's well above any human being. he can tear human hearts out through armor do you think that takes strength?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Then you never played the game I take it. I'll get to that.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Yes, beat it.

Kain never once demonstrated superhuman reflexes through out the entire game.

Originally posted by quanchi112
UMAH
Your memory has been shattered, and your body has lain dormant for two hundred years. What skills you had must be recovered before you can be of any use to the Cabal. You must learn to fight, and to survive.

KAIN
I thought you were taking me to feed.

UMAH
Patience, vampire. First, know that you are stronger and faster than mortal men, able to jump higher and farther than any human that ever lived. When your path is blocked, seek for a place to jump. Now, join me up here.

“Kain” leaps up to join Umah on the ledge above.


1. GJ shooting your own argument in the foot. ZOMG, vampires are above humans, who knew? It doesn't actually say "faster than any mortal man", either. You've weakened an already weak positon.
2. I just told you I played the game, and that Kain never demonstrates super human reflexes, and he doesn't. No feats, at all.
3. It's already agreed Kain is physicly stronger than spidey, but ti doesn't matter because he can't catch Spidey, who is much, much faster than him.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
1. GJ shooting your own argument in the foot. ZOMG, vampires are above humans, who knew? It doesn't actually say "faster than any mortal man", either. You've weakened an already weak positon.
2. I just told you I played the game, and that Kain never demonstrates super human reflexes, and he [b]doesn't
. No feats, at all.
3. It's already agreed Kain is physicly stronger than spidey, but ti doesn't matter because he can't catch Spidey, who is much, much faster than him. [/B]
So you take this statement to mean he is only faster than certain mortal men not all?

What is berserk mode from bo2? are those slow attacks or are they fast attacks?

How is spiderman much faster than him?