Avatar: The Legend of Korra

Started by Nephthys127 pages

I agree, you seem to hate him for hates sake atm Aura.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
It doesn't. But then again, I suppose knocking people off the side was a rule most didn't break. And so what? He needed her. No option other than quitting. And for a guy that has been complaining about having to start over again next year, it doesn't make sense for him to quit. Besides, she IS the Avatar. She should know more about bending than any one in the ring from a logical perspective.

Here's the problem: If losing the match and starting over really isn't such a big deal to Mako, why should I care? If he is willing to let his hardwork go down the toilet just for fear of humiliation, I have no qualms about him having hard times at all. He's choosing to have them.

To bring Naruto up again, Team 7 didn't want to go back to the academy because they chose to be ninja and they had invested a lot of time into the training. And for that, plus some character development, they were willing to do anything to stay ninja.

Excuse me? It does. While all the other forms fo bending are based on martial arts and involve big sweeping gestures probending is based off of boxing and uses quick, small attacks and precise dodging.

For the rest, while I see you point, none of that is justifiable reason to dislike the guy. You can not like him and see him as a quitter but you've desplayed so far quite a lot of dislike for him, and nothing you've said has justified such strong feelings.

Originally posted by Nephthys

For the rest, while I see you point, none of that is justifiable reason to dislike the guy. You can not like him and see him as a quitter but you've desplayed so far quite a lot of dislike for him, and nothing you've said has justified such strong feelings.

Liking or not like something is completely subjective. Ergo, any reason for doing so is "justified". Hating someone because of the color of their shoes is a perfectly valid reason for doing so.

There's a world of difference between "I dislike someone" and "I dislike someone, and you should too."

Furthermore, I also dislike Mako. Quite a few people do, apparently, so it's not a matter of disliking him for the sake of doing so, it's a matter of the "brooding emo loser who complains constantly" arch-type not being appealing to some people.

Originally posted by marwash22
when you don't like someone, even the way they breathe will annoy you.

Mako doesn't breathe he's a cartoon. awesome

Originally posted by Nephthys
I agree, you seem to hate him for hates sake atm Aura.

No u?

Originally posted by Nephthys
Excuse me? It does. While all the other forms fo bending are based on martial arts and involve big sweeping gestures probending is based off of boxing and uses quick, small attacks and precise dodging.

The makes her far more of a trump card. No one would be prepared for the mixed up styles of the Avatar...not that there weren't big sweeping moves used earlier. I might give Mako leeway if were someone like Start of Book 1 Katara, who could barely bend. But the Avatar? Denying her the chance to join his team, even when he needed her, makes him look like a prick lol.

Originally posted by Nephthys
For the rest, while I see you point, none of that is justifiable reason to dislike the guy. You can not like him and see him as a quitter but you've desplayed so far quite a lot of dislike for him, and nothing you've said has justified such strong feelings.

Likes and dislikes are subjective. That said, I'll fully admit to be biased against Mako for two reasons if you like. The first being that Bolin is a completely superior and likable character in comparison and yet I have a strange feeling that Bolin is going to end up the loser of Korra's affections and the second is that he is compared to(and is designed to be imo) a lot like Zuko, which I find disgusting cause, well, Zuko is awesome and Mako is not.

However, even with those biases aside I truly see little to like about the guy. He obviously cares some for his brother but how much I don't know. He had a tragic past but the thing about those things is that it can't excuse everything. But really the one thing I dislike about him is he is rather undeserving. Korra seems really bent on impressing the guy when he is really just a douche to her. Asami and Hiroshi are willing to help him out because...well their saints I guess but even then I don't see why Asami would continue to want to date him, short of him being attractive and talented I suppose. He mostly comes off as a Stu to me.

And dude, just cause I type a lot doesn't mean I'm frothing at the mouth with anger. Jesus, can you imagine me typing about Hodi Jones?

Mako is still a poor man's Zuko/Sasuke.

Moving on...

Amon has Korra scared shitless. I like this. Certainly more than what I can say for any major villain in the 1st series.
Tarlok is also pretty cool, even though I'm probably going to dislike him down the road.
As for Hiroshi Sato...might be a generous guy, or someone who will blackmail the brothers, even though he's the richest dude in RC. Time will tell.

Ozai had Aang pissing himself.

Not really.
Before the Day of Black Sun, Aang was having nightmares as he had the whole world counting on him to defeat Ozai, and he did not want to fail them.
Before Sozin's Comet arrived, Aang shat himself as he thought he would have to kill him.

Even ignoring the fact that Ozai had never even met Aang, Ozai was not the root of Aang's fears.

i was referring to the part where Aang was hiding in that rock dome during the comet fight. Pre-Avatar mode in that fight, he was clearly scared of Ozai.

Oh that. Well, I suppose that does count, even though I don't think it should. Aang was too much of a pussy in that finale, until the Avatar State kicked in.

Yeah, Aang was scared, no doubt. I will say that in my personal opinion though, I think his fear was of more than just Ozai.

Ozai was on the offensive from the start and literally backed Aang into a corner. Once he trapped him, he realized that either

A) Ozai would kill him because he refused to fight back.

or

B) He would have to kill Ozai, betraying everything he'd been taught and believed in, and losing his sense of self in the process.

Until the AS kicked in, it was a lose-lose situation, and Aang saw it as hopeless.

I would say there's a difference between being "scared" and being "psychologically broken".

Korra's showing the kind of fear that rape victims show.

People hate Mako because he is a total douche who for some reason people in the story constantly praise and suck off for... He's hawt I guess?

Bolin on the other hand is the coolness.

The situation with Amon is actually a neat little microcosm to the situation of the Avatar World. The benders are talking a big game but it's pretty clear that they're nervous about what the Equalists will do and if they can succeed. Korra talked down to Amon in public but it's clear that she is, rightfully so, terrified of the guy. In both cases, the bending party is afraid that the age of bending really is over.

.....

The sport is called "Pro-Bending." haermm

^ Pretty much. Bending is everything to Korra, doubly so because she is the Avatar. She still believes that fighting is what the Avatar does, and Pro-bending exemplifies this. If she loses her ability to bend, she'd lose everything.

In this regard, Amon is certainly a more formidable villain than Zuko, Zhao, Azula or Ozai.

Originally posted by KingD19
Yeah, Aang was scared, no doubt. I will say that in my personal opinion though, I think his fear was of more than just Ozai.

Ozai was on the offensive from the start and literally backed Aang into a corner. Once he trapped him, he realized that either

A) Ozai would kill him because he refused to fight back.

or

B) He would have to kill Ozai, betraying everything he'd been taught and believed in, and losing his sense of self in the process.

Until the AS kicked in, it was a lose-lose situation, and Aang saw it as hopeless.

👆

Yeah, and Korra, unlike Aang has been aware that she's the Avatar from a very young age. Her whole life has been Avatar Training. She's not Korra the Avatar, she's Avatar Korra. That's first and foremost for her, and if Amon took her bending away, she'd just be Korra. I know I wouldn't know how to deal if someone stole my powers.

Korra fearing Amon taking bending away makes no sense... has she not had a spiritual conversation with Aang yet? Surely Aang would tell her that her bending is safe.

sidenote: Amon may be Tenzin's brother, Bumi. Tenzin definitely knows a lot more about Amon than he's letting on.

Originally posted by marwash22
Korra fearing Amon taking bending away makes no sense...
Obviously not?

Originally posted by marwash22
Korra fearing Amon taking bending away makes no sense... has she not had a spiritual conversation with Aang yet? Surely Aang would tell her that her bending is safe.

sidenote: Amon may be Tenzin's brother, Bumi. Tenzin definitely knows a lot more about Amon than he's letting on.

She obviously hasn't spoken with him yet. And why would he tell her her bending is safe if it's true that Amon can take it away? Spirits haven't been shown to soften blows and Aang definitely wouldn't lie to her. That would give her false confidence and almost assuredly get her seriously messed up.

And in that flashback, it's pretty obvious that Amon was the guy standing trial with Sokka, Toph, and Aang there.

Originally posted by KingD19
She obviously hasn't spoken with him yet. And why would he tell her her bending is safe if it's true that Amon can take it away? Spirits haven't been shown to soften blows and Aang definitely wouldn't lie to her. That would give her false confidence and almost assuredly get her seriously messed up.
it wouldn't be a lie.

Aang was (which means Korra is) capable of Energybending... i have to assume that whatever Amon is doing, either won't effect Korra, or can be reversed.

Originally posted by marwash22
it wouldn't be a lie.

Aang was (which means Korra is) capable of Energybending... i have to assume that whatever Amon is doing, either won't effect Korra, or can be reversed.

Aang was given the technique from a Lion Turtle. Yes Korra is capable of it, but it doesn't mean she can do it. She can't even airbend yet. And you're operating under the assumption that he can't permanently remove her bending, when Chi Blockers without that talent have already temporarily taken it away. If it didn't affect her at all, chi blocking wouldn't work.

And you're also assuming that she can energy bend herself, which wouldn't make sense if Amon removed all her bending permanently. There's also the fact that energybending is to take someones bending away, it hasn't been shown in the capacity of bringing bending, especially your own back, or keeping it safe somehow.

So as of now, it would be a lie.

Originally posted by KingD19
Aang was given the technique from a Lion Turtle. Yes Korra is capable of it, but it doesn't mean she can do it.
that is exactly what it means. Not sure why you brought up the turtle part... what difference does that make? Aang has the knowledge so all he has to do is pass it to Korra the same way the turtle did to him.

Originally posted by KingD19
She can't even airbend yet.
relevance?

Originally posted by KingD19
And you're operating under the assumption that he can't permanently remove her bending, when Chi Blockers without that talent have already temporarily taken it away. If it didn't affect her at all, chi blocking wouldn't work.
chi blocking is just hitting a bunch of points in the body that temporarily make your muscles go numb which keeps you from bending; it's like that move in Crouching Tiger or what Neji and Hinata do in Naruto.

Amon is clearly doing something completely different considering he doesn't even punch people for whatever his technique is to take effect.

Originally posted by KingD19
So as of now, it would be a lie.
under my assumption, it wouldn't be a lie.

I'm not speaking in absolutes.