Originally posted by XanatosForever...and there's the crux of the problem. The uninteresting part is in the foreground, which is making me focus on the teen angst crap.
The civil war is the foreground.
The 1st series had a lot of that angsty crap too ("Cave of Two Lovers"... ughh, terrible episode), but it was largely covered up because the main focus of show was very compelling.
Hey I liked this episode and the whole thing about Wan being the first Avatar. But considering his origins does that mean that their can be an anti-Avatar as well?
This episode was cool and its also the first one in the season that I've seen. I don't really know why people have been having complaints with this season though I'm probably just being oblivious to something.
The idea of Anti-Avatar crossed my mind as well. Probably will happen in the last episodes. Unalaq frees the dark spirit maybe? Also Rava coudnt just enter and bond with any human, so its gonna take one bad MF to become the evil Avatar. And I'm not sure what it's powers gonna be. Not like he's gonna travel the world looking for lion-turtles as well.
Also I absolutely loved these episodes, the origin was very well done, felt very TLA. When I saw the preview I was worried that a poorly written origin might ruin the concept altogether by making the avatar incignificant. A thief who stole the power but ended up using it for good? Not deep enough. But the writers delivered. They've been saying that the Avatar is the bridge between the two worlds and only the Avatar can restore balance, up until now we sort of just went with it without knowing the why or how. Now they explained it. And its awesome.
Some people are still gonna complain I'm sure.
Oh I could complain. Mostly just about the really awkward setup but you could complain about things in the flashback.
But will I? No. Was I thinking about them while watching the show? No. Because it was a fantastic story of a punk kid who grew into a hero who wanted nothing more than to help the world. His character arc makes sense and his traits are nicely balanced between the good and bad. And the art/music is beautiful as always.
These were great episodes. I loved them.
Some people are saying that but I disagree since Wan's story is just a retread of Aangs. To quote someones argument:
"I mean, not to be flippant, but we have seen it before. I'd sure watch it, but it would be a story of familiar structure, with the fated hero on the clear quest to fix the imbalance of the world that's he's responsible for. Only also lesser than AtLA since it not only would still be shorter, it would be much more a story of one man on his own than AtLA or LoK. It sounds like Mike and Bryan really wanted to go a different direction with Korra, and I'm glad they did too. Even if in the end after season 4 I agree with the doomsayers and think it's a lesser series, it's a firmly new one. Importantly, new in a way that fantasy sequels in particular too rarely are, both in terms of how the world has advanced and in how it's moved from standard (if well told) hero's quest stuff to an open ended self-discovery series. "
Wan's story was almost perfect in length. We saw all that we needed to, even if I'd have liked to have seen the Water and Earth Lionturtle cities more.
Korra is just so shitty this season. I really want to like her, I do, but she is so stubborn, idiotic, reckless and isn't even that powerful despite her being all about the physical. Using the Avatar State to win an air scooter race? Smh.
I mean, I get that she's a teenage girl and they are pretty much the definition of silly irrational drama starters but still. Avatar Kyoshi was awesome so I hope she can overcome her gender handicap. 😛
Originally posted by marwash22
You guys really think someone will bond with Vatu? The only contender to do so would be Unalaq, and if it were him, what would that even accomplish seeing as he only knows water bending and has zero connection to the past avatars? Korra would just go Avatar State and curbstomp his ass.
Well Wan seemed to have his firebending juiced up when Raava bonded with him. Also couldn't whoever Vatu bond with Energybend others to get the other 3 elements. Wishful thinking I know but the creators are the ones who made this up and whatnot.
Even if he met up with some lion turtles (who are awesome, btw... i also wanted to see the Earth and Water cities), or somehow energy-bended his way into attaining the other elements, he won't have the time to master them like Korra has, and most certainly not like the other Avatar's have, all of whom Korra has access to while in AS.
outside of some yet to be seen secret weapon Unalaq has, i don't see how he's really a threat.
Wan is such a good character he honestly even ranks up there with A:TLA characters in my opinion. I love pretty much everything about him and I really commend the show for it's ability to showcase a good character arc in two episodes like this.
Still I do wonder something: how come Korra, who uses the Avatar State that allows her to access the past Avatar lives like Wan, can't defeat a simple dark sea spirit?
Is she just really bad at it? I mean she has Wan's experience and Wan beat down the equivalent of a god as far as this universe is concerned.
Originally posted by marwash22
Even if he met up with some lion turtles (who are awesome, btw... i also wanted to see the Earth and Water cities), or somehow energy-bended his way into attaining the other elements, he won't have the time to master them like Korra has, and most certainly not like the other Avatar's have, all of whom Korra has access to while in AS.outside of some yet to be seen secret weapon Unalaq has, i don't see how he's really a threat.
Well Vatu was the stronger spirit prior to Wan beating up on him. Maybe if Vatu had a host he could make an even stronger Anti-Avatar assuming of course it could energy-bend people for the other 3 elements.
So...Korra's "I Win Button" isn't working or something. I mean the Avatar State is pretty much God-mode for any Fully Realized Avatar which I'm assuming Korra is at this point. What gives?