Originally posted by Naija boy
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That seems more like bullrushing or blitzing which IS DIFFERENT from combat speed
I have never seen SS moving his limbs as fast the FLASH or Superman
SS is like a jet pilot trying to hit you in his plane, He has to stick his hand out of the window in order to hit you.
If a jet pilot hits you on his plane does he has combat speed?
If he jumps arround on his plane trying to avoid being hit does he has combat speed?
SS has enhanced reflexes and can bull rush or blitz really fast but that is far from moving his limbs at the speeds of Flash, Quicsilver or Superman who actually have combat speed.
This is combat speed and I have never seen SS doing something similar
Originally posted by biensalsa
That seems more like bullrushing or blitzing which IS DIFFERENT from combat speedI have never seen SS moving his limbs as fast the FLASH or Superman
SS is like a jet pilot trying to hit you in his plane, He has to stick his hand out of the window in order to hit you.
If a jet pilot hits you on his plane does he has combat speed?
If he jumps arround on his plane trying to avoid being hit does he has combat speed?
SS has enhanced reflexes and can bull rush or blitz really fast but that is far from moving his limbs at the speeds of Flash, Quicsilver or Superman who actually have combat speed.
This is combat speed and I have never seen SS doing something similar
Also little unknown FACTS about Superman
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Originally posted by biensalsa
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When facing SS people always say
"Well SS can create Kryptonite"
Correct me if I'm wrong Only Kryptonite from his own universe can harm a kryptonian as seen several times with SBP
So SS cannot create Kryptonite from Superman's own universe.
Depowering is the best alternative for SS, BUT unless they are in a dark room or a black hole the chances of this are slim.
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Originally posted by biensalsaThat's not an unknown fact, wtf are you talking about?
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Originally posted by biensalsaSS would be creating kryptonite that would harm Supes since he'd be detecting his weakness, thus having the radiation that would affect him.
When facing SS people always say"Well SS can create Kryptonite"
Correct me if I'm wrong Only Kryptonite from his own universe can harm a kryptonian as seen several times with SBP
So SS cannot create Kryptonite from Superman's own universe.
Depowering is the best alternative for SS, BUT unless they are in a dark room or a black hole the chances of this are slim.
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Originally posted by Galan007
They are completely different characters, from completely different universes/continuities. Trying to interchange feats between alternate characters is a horribly faulty line of logic.Not to mention that there are a few noticeable differences between mainstream and All-Star Supes. The first that comes to mind is the fact that A/S literally overloaded his cells just by coming within close proximity of the sun. Mainstream Supes, on the other hand, can casually sit inside the sun, and be none the worse for wear afterward. Secondly, A/S Supes was depowered almost immediately after being under the light of a red sun. Whereas mainstream Supes can work under a red sun for a good length of time before he even begins to lose his powers. Etc.
Look, All-Star Supes is one of my favs, but he is just outclassed here. Plain and simple.
I agree with Galan All-Star Supes FEATS are his own on not this continuty Superman.
Still while my scans won't help All-Star Supes. I will like to see a showing of SS moving his limbs in combat speed. I have always looked for that scan and I have never seen it. The fastest REAL combat speed I have seen the Surfer perform is "as fast as the space winds" vs the Hulk
AND PLEASE UNDERSTAND COMBAT SPEED not to be confused with
REFLEXES ej a jet fighter pilot can react at the speed of the plane does that means the pilot has combat speed faster than sound?
or
bull rushing or blitzing ej hit and run then come back hit and run and so on
Combat speed: This is combat speed.
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Originally posted by Mindset
SS would be creating kryptonite that would harm Supes since he'd be detecting his weakness, thus having the radiation that would affect him.
Is not kryptonite from his own universe because Surfer is from another universe.
Firestorm tried that trick on SBP and it did not work. Is known that Kryptonite from another universe won't harm Superman.
If SS was from this Universe IT WILL WORK, but he is not
Originally posted by biensalsaIt doesn't matter, SS would be making kryptonite with a radiation signature that is designed to hurt Supes.
Is not kryptonite from his own universe because Surfer is from another universe.Firestorm tried that trick on SBP and it did not work. Is known that Kryptonite from another universe won't harm Superman.
If SS was from this Universe IT WILL WORK, but he is not
FS did not use the aforementioned tactic, he just made regular kryptonite that he knew how to make.
He doesn't need to be from the same universe.
Originally posted by Mindset
SS would be creating kryptonite that would harm Supes since he'd be detecting his weakness, thus having the radiation that would affect him.
This is like a known fact in DC
If the Kryptonite is not from the Kryptonian's Universe it wont harm him
Surfer is from another universe, so any Kryptonite He creates is not from this universe, UNLESS HE IS AT MR MYX power level. Which I REALLY DOUBT
Originally posted by biensalsai'm not cosigning on the creation of kryptonite (i haven't ever iirc), but that's a lame ass reason why it wouldn't work.
Is not kryptonite from his own universe because Surfer is from another universe.Firestorm tried that trick on SBP and it did not work. Is known that Kryptonite from another universe won't harm Superman.
If SS was from this Universe IT WILL WORK, but he is not
surfer is literally creating the kryptonite (radioactive stone), not picking it up off the ground.
him doing it on the fly is the debate
Originally posted by biensalsafacepalm
This is like a known fact in DCIf the Kryptonite is not from the Kryptonian's Universe it wont harm him
Surfer is from another universe, so any Kryptonite He creates is not from this universe, UNLESS HE IS AT MR MYX power level. Which I REALLY DOUBT
Fine, how about this, SS creates poop that gives of the kryptonite radiation that Supes is weak to.
Originally posted by psycho gundamHe doesn't even have to create the actual rock, just emit the radiation it gives off.
i'm not cosigning on the creation of kryptonite (i haven't ever iirc), but that's a lame ass reason why it wouldn't work.surfer is literally creating the kryptonite (radioactive stone), not picking it up off the ground.
him doing it on the fly is the debate
Which he did against Glads, iirc.
Originally posted by Mindset
It doesn't matter, SS would be making kryptonite with a radiation signature that is designed to hurt Supes.FS did not use the aforementioned tactic, he just made regular kryptonite that he knew how to make.
He doesn't need to be from the same universe.
Wrong
Elemental Lad from prime universe crated Kryptonite that poisoned SBP
He did not even know he was from the prime universe.
SS will knew about the kryptonite but he wont be able to make the Kryptonite to hurt him, BECAUSE HE IS NOT FROM SUPERMAN'S UNIVERSE
Originally posted by biensalsaThen Elemental Lad created kryptonite that he knew how to make, that was prime universe kryptonite. 🙂
WrongElemental Lad from prime universe crated Kryptonite that poisoned SBP
He did not even know he was from the prime universe.
SS will knew about the kryptonite but he wont be able to make the Kryptonite to hurt him, BECAUSE HE IS NOT FROM SUPERMAN'S UNIVERSE
Originally posted by Mindset
He doesn't even have to create the actual rock, just emit the radiation it gives off.Which he did against Glads, iirc.
I Don't care if He creates a sun that emits K radiation IT WILL BE MARVEL UNIVERSE'S K
