Spider-Man vs. Gamora

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Forum rules: Spider-Man is bloodlusted and fights at the best of his abilities. This means no joking around, but actually using his head and powers at the same time.

Gamora is no joke, and Spider-Man would not just walk over her, far from it. But a non-jobbing Spider-Man with his spider-sense working just fine is very, very hard to hit.

Spider-Man on the other hand has no problem whatsoever using his webs against Gamora. He can shoot his webs in her eyes while doing a backflip - he very, very rarely misses - and she wouldn't be able to do a damn thing against it.

Spider-Man 7/10.

Bloodlust works both ways, Gamora is faster and way more skilled, and Spidey rarely misses because he's usually shooting webs at buildings, common thugs, or common villains.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Sometimes his webs have been broken, yes,

Fact.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
but that shouldn't have happened.

Opinion.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
I remember Spider-Man saying a few years ago that he can count the people who can break his webs on one hand. Hyperbole of course, but still.

Self-admitted hyperbole.

I know where I stand.

Originally posted by Digi
Bloodlust works both ways, Gamora is faster and way more skilled

More skilled, yes, but faster?

At his peak, Spidey's practically a low level speedster. How's Gamora's speed feats compared to all the dodging Spidey's done, plus his performance against teams like the Fantastic Four (Where he was basically dancing around the team, including firing off webbing at Sue just before she could get a shield up) and X-men?

Originally posted by cdtm
More skilled, yes, but faster?

At his peak, Spidey's practically a low level speedster. How's Gamora's speed feats compared to all the dodging Spidey's done, plus his performance against teams like the Fantastic Four (Where he was basically dancing around the team, including firing off webbing at Sue just before she could get a shield up) and X-men?

Her speed feats don't compare, because she doesn't have any... but here on KMC we like to give Gamora the benefit of the doubt for no particular reason! Gamora >>>>>>>>>> Spider-man in speed, hurray!!!

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Originally posted by Digi Bloodlust works both ways.

and Spidey rarely misses because he's usually shooting webs at buildings, common thugs, or common villains.

How many times has Spider-Man missed ? I remember one time, when he was a bit drunk. Other than that ? Maybe a few times...

Self-admitted hyperbole.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
And "the most dangerous woman of the universe" isn't hyperbole ?!?

It most certainly is. But I'm not using it as part of my argument.

😉

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Her speed feats don't compare, because she doesn't have any... but here on KMC we like to give Gamora the benefit of the doubt for no particular reason! Gamora >>>>>>>>>> Spider-man in speed, hurray!!!

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Pre-cog is hard to account for, yes, and they're both insanely fast. However, the speed discussion is practically irrelevant next to the skill discussion, where she has an absurd advantage.

Honestly, something like her temporary paralysis of Thanos should be all that's needed. Could Cap do that? Hell no, but he can hang with Spidey for a while based on his skill. So you see where I'm headed. But that shot from Gamora would one-shot Spidey. Both can win, no doubt. But only Gamora can end it that quickly.

Gamora is at the very least at his speed level/agility.
At the very least as skilled as Cap.
At the very least as durable as Venom.
But she's way stronger than Spider-Man.

I'm not sure webbing and Spider-Sense could ever account for this.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Gamora is at the very least at his speed level/agility.
At the very least as skilled as Cap.
At the very least as durable as Venom.
But she's way stronger than Spider-Man.

I'm not sure webbing and Spider-Sense could ever account for this.

Originally posted by Digi
Honestly, something like her temporary paralysis of Thanos should be all that's needed. Could Cap do that? Hell no, but he can hang with Spidey for a while based on his skill. So you see where I'm headed. But that shot from Gamora would one-shot Spidey. Both can win, no doubt. But only Gamora can end it that quickly.

Gamora can't paralyze Thanos either, he was bluffing. 😎

Her best skill feat is incapacitating Thing, and that was only accomplished because he was being restrained. She said her self she wouldn't have been able to land that blow in a fight with out the help of Sasquatch and she said a similar thing to Cyclops when he said she wouldn't be able to nerve strike him. Other than that she dropped Rage and Nighttrasher after getting the drop on them... but it isn't like either of those to guys is brag worthy material. Fact of the matter is she has never managed to replicate any of these feats in an actually fight, has practically said she can't herself and her best feat (dropping Thing) isn't so different than lets say DD dropping Hyde... only that is something he has done in the course of an actually head to head confrontation. Comparing Gamora's skill to Captain America is a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuge stretch, she is massively over-rated.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Gamora can't paralyze Thanos either, he was bluffing. 😎

Her best skill feat is incapacitating Thing, and that was only accomplished because he was being restrained. She said her self she wouldn't have been able to land that blow in a fight with out the help of Sasquatch and she said a similar thing to Cyclops when he said she wouldn't be able to nerve strike him. Other than that she dropped Rage and Nighttrasher after getting the drop on them... but it isn't like either of those to guys is brag worthy material. Fact of the matter is she has never managed to replicate any of these feats in an actually fight, has practically said she can't herself and her best feat (dropping Thing) isn't so different than lets say DD dropping Hyde... only that is something he has done in the course of an actually head to head confrontation. Comparing Gamora's skill to Captain America is a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuge stretch, she is massively over-rated.

Originally posted by Digi
I can't stand excessive wanking, even if it's a character I like. It honestly ruins the character for many on the forums. Its most efficient purpose is turning forum opinion against the character you're defending.

h1, I'd advise you to take a look at the entirety of SM's showings, the times his webbing has been broken by less than Class 100 strength, the number of skilled opponents who can hit him, and the feats Gamora has that put her well beyond any street MA'ers in skill, durability, strength, etc. You also know not to use handbooks for anything. You've been here long enough that you should realize that. Feats trump outdated listings.

I sincerely hope you're joking, because it's to the point where many are starting to ignore your opinion on the character, myself included.

Gamora 9/10

Him getting hit by her when he has pre-cog spider sense is a contradiction. How can you think it is okay to always dodge a hail of bullets and LASERS and energy beams while cracking jokes yet get hit by a single slower moving attack? So I guess his Spider sense gets magically turned off when a MA strikes him?

MAs must have a jobba aura that deadens his spider sense. This makes no sense. You know why Spidey gets hit in the comics right? To make a good story, nothing more. That's why this is a forum fight. Spider sense can't both warn him of an attack and not warn him at the same time. That's a logical impossibility.

P.S. Someone else posted a scan of a handbook, not me. I was merely going off her bios (which were not current). Current bios and other members stated she received two upgrades as to her new super human strength. I accepted (so what's the problem? 🙂 ). I thought bios are valid evidence as long as they don't contradict canon comics.

Gamora slices trough his silly webbing and oneshots Parker.
If he is lucky, she will leave one nut intact.

He is physically matched at the very least and ridiculously outmatched in the skill department.

Gamora wtf pwns spidey.

Originally posted by h1a8
Him getting hit by her when he has pre-cog spider sense is a contradiction. How can you think it is okay to always dodge a hail of bullets and LASERS and energy beams while cracking jokes yet get hit by a single slower moving attack? So I guess his Spider sense gets magically turned off when a MA strikes him?

MAs must have a jobba aura that deadens his spider sense. This makes no sense. You know why Spidey gets hit in the comics right? To make a good story, nothing more. That's why this is a forum fight. Spider sense can't both warn him of an attack and not warn him at the same time. That's a logical impossibility.

P.S. Someone else posted a scan of a handbook, not me. I was merely going off her bios (which were not current). Current bios and other members stated she received two upgrades as to her new super human strength. I accepted (so what's the problem? 🙂 ). I thought bios are valid evidence as long as they don't contradict canon comics.

But her bio IS contradicted by her canon, as are most characters and their bios. Never a good source. Again, you should know better.

Some people are legitimately fast enough and skilled enough to hit Pete. To pretend otherwise is ludicrous. Lasers and bullets don't adapt, predict, etc.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Gamora is at the very least at his speed level/agility.
At the very least as skilled as Cap.
At the very least as durable as Venom.
But she's way stronger than Spider-Man.

I'm not sure webbing and Spider-Sense could ever account for this.

An accurate synopsis of my thoughts.

There seems to be a Low Meta Gamora, and a High Meta Gamora disparity on these forums. Seems like some think she isn't all that impressive and others thinks she is impressive and a cosmic MA. This often happens in threads with characters who don't have as much feats as another. Although this doesn't determine the win. Hence why I try not to always look at feats exclusively as logic helps as well.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
There seems to be a Low Meta Gamora, and a High Meta Gamora disparity on these forums. Seems like some thing she isn't all that impressive and others thinks she is impressive and a cosmic MA. This often happens in threads with characters who don't have as much feats as another. Although this doesn't determine the win. Hence why I try not to always look at feats exclusively as logic helps as well.

People want their to be a Marvel Karate Kid so badly that they fool themselves into hyping Gamora waaaaaaaaaaaay past the levels she operates on. She isn't Karate Kid skilled, she isn't Mantis skilled... she's not even Captain America skilled. She pressure pointed a restrained Thing one time. Thats it. Lets move on people.

So being trained by Thanos doesn't have much significance? I'm just asking.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
People want their to be a Marvel Karate Kid so badly that they fool themselves into hyping Gamora waaaaaaaaaaaay past the levels she operates on. She isn't Karate Kid skilled, she isn't Mantis skilled... she's not even Captain America skilled. She pressure pointed a restrained Thing one time. Thats it. Lets move on people.

But Wolverine and Sabes are amrite?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
So being trained by Thanos doesn't have much significance? I'm just asking.

Thanos ever do anything that struck you as being particularly skilled?

he once did a matrix style frozen in the air as cameras panned around and kicked warlock in the face... 😖hifty:

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Thanos ever do anything that struck you as being particularly skilled?