Surfer & Hulk vs. Thor.& Herc

Originally posted by Starscream M
I love how you spin everything against hulk...you should really consider going into PR as a career...seriously

yes, onslaught wanted his armor to be cracked...yet no one else COULD (including Thor). Only Hulk, through his rage, had the capacity to crush it. That was a heck of an impressive feat...so don't lowball it just cuz it wasn't goldilocks who did it.

What about the rest of my post? We were discussing how Hulk matches up to Odin.

I can debate the Onslaught scene but I don't want to right now. I'm focusing on one particular stupidity of yours.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
If odin is allowed to amp to his hearts content yes he is stompign WBH in physical.If he isn't allowed to amp I still see odin winning but it being a much better fight.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What about the rest of my post? We were discussing how Hulk matches up to Odin.

I can debate the Onslaught scene but I don't want to right now. I'm focusing on one particular stupidity of yours.

comics aren't written like that anymore

if odin fought today, he would leave a trail of destruction like that of bor vs thor, maybe a bit more, but certainly not of the magnitude of planet shaking proportions

Originally posted by Starscream M
the rest of your post regarding odin's fight breaking stars and planets is the result of an era of hyperbole long since passed

comics aren't written like that anymore

if odin fought today, he would leave a trail of destruction like that of bor vs thor, maybe a bit more, but certainly not of the magnitude of planet shaking proportions

An era of hyperbole long since passed? It came out in the very late 90's.

Written like what exactly? Narration describing the "epicness" of a battle or a character etc.? That's not true at all.

I don't really care what you think what would happen.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

Written like what exactly? Narration describing the "epicness" of a battle or a character etc.? That's not true at all.

Originally posted by Starscream M
'reigniting dying stars'...what garbage. come on rage, use a little common sense, that's simply literary flourish. galactus doesn't even reignite dying stars when he fights and he's on a power level above Odin.

I've seen Thor absorb the power to destroy a Galaxy and reignite a dying Star. I have no problem with Odin doing it.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I've seen Thor absorb the power to destroy a Galaxy and reignite a dying Star. I have no problem with Odin doing it.

but i guess we can just agree to disagree, I believe that odin scan is more literary flourish and hyperbole whereas you take it more at face value. *shrugs*

Originally posted by Starscream M
that's very different. thor deliberately reigniting a star is believable.

but i guess we can just agree to disagree, I believe that odin scan is more literary flourish and hyperbole whereas you take it more at face value. *shrugs*

While Odin doing it as an after effect of a battle is not? His much more powerful than Thor.

I'm not going to assume the narration was lying to me.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Thor can bring Herc back 😐

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

Thor could always take on the Destroyer.

What?

I don't count being able to survive a little while as being able to take on something. Especially when you can do no damage whatsoever and are guaranteed to get killed eventually.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

I'm not going to assume the narration was lying to me.

He doesn't necessarily have to be lying, he could be exaggerating. 😄

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
😐

Do you not understand that Odin can transfer his raw power into physical might? The raw power that allows him to bust easily bust Galaxies, alter reality, and create dimensions?

Odin will put a fist through Hulk's face while laughing off his attacks. Don't even get me started on beings above Odin. Hulk can rage and rage for a week and he won't do shit to Galactus unless his severely weakened.

A severely weakened, drained and poisoned Odin easily took out Ulik in one shot so even this 70 ton ranking is off.

You should re-read the appearances of World Breaker. Nowhere was he crushing continents.

Odin can't do no such thing. If Odin can augment his physical abilities then the extent and time it takes remains unknown. Thus we must go by showings. And by showings Odin was never shown to be as physically strong as WWH. And the busting galaxy feat isn't necessary valid. It could have been hyperbole or the fact that both were fighting a long time and both contributed (not just one) to it. This is like when both Thor's struck hammers, it had an effect on the entire universe. Thor alone can't do even a fraction of that feat on his own.

Originally posted by h1a8
This is like when both Thor's struck hammers, it had an effect on the entire universe.

WTF?! Marvel has officially jumped the shark. 😕

I have to agree with Rage on this thread, Thor however is iffy. If Herc is High Sky Father, then this is a stomp in Team 2's favor. They would have too much power, and not even need to go h2h. Has Thor mastered placing people in eldritch containment bubbles like Odin used to do?

Originally posted by h1a8
I don't count being able to survive a little while as being able to take on something. Especially when you can do no damage whatsoever and are guaranteed to get killed eventually.

You haven't read most of their fights have you? When Thor takes on the Destroyer in hand to hand, he holds his own. He goes toe to toe with it despite it being nigh invulnerable and having infinite stamina. He just eventually gets worn out at times.

It's like fighting a stronger, tougher, more powerful and versatile Juggernaut.

Originally posted by h1a8
Odin can't do no such thing.

What are you referring to?

Originally posted by h1a8
If Odin can augment his physical abilities then the extent and time it takes remains unknown. Thus we must go by showings. And by showings Odin was never shown to be as physically strong as WWH.

True. The Odin Force has shown it can amp up beings to a level beyond Hulk physically. Odin can operate on an entirely different scale. There's simply no competition.

Originally posted by h1a8
And the busting galaxy feat isn't necessary valid. It could have been hyperbole or the fact that both were fighting a long time and both contributed (not just one) to it. This is like when both Thor's struck hammers, it had an effect on the entire universe. Thor alone can't do even a fraction of that feat on his own.

Hahaha. Your such a f*cking hypocrite. Do you remember the time you jumped all over the Superman space/time barrier shattering feat?

Why not? Nowhere did it state that the energies somehow skyrocketed. 1+1=/=10. In that comic Thor could at the very least equal half that force.

It wasn't a galaxy. It was galaxies and Odin has done feats on that scale more than once.They weren't fighting a long time. In total they fought for a few pages before that scene. Don't try and write that scene as a result of some extended release of power. It's just asinine. They were operating on a massive scale from the get go:

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

Are those scans a joke?

I mean "You really messed up old man!" coming from the Egyptian Death God? Really?

What issue is this? I can't believe crap like this was actually produced.

Journey Into the Mystery #513. That issue was fine. I didn't have any problem with Seth's dialogue. His almost always been an arrogant schmuck. That was written by DeFalco, the same guy who has probably written a great deal of Seth's most well known appearances.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Journey Into the Mystery #513. That issue was fine. I didn't have any problem with Seth's dialogue. His almost always been an arrogant schmuck. That was written by DeFalco, the same guy who has probably written a great deal of Seth's most well known appearances.

"oh so obvious" and "that's gonna cost you" from an Egyptian Deity? Like so totally bogus!

LOL "No power in the Universe can match me" coming from Seth? Galaxies crumbling? You really believe this happened with nothing being shown on panel even remotely suggesting this?

Greater beings than Odin and Seth have thrown down and have done less damage than what was suggested by the narrator.