Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs. Living Tribunal AND Eternity

Originally posted by Galan007
^ See above.

Considering The Official Handbook(s) of the Marvel Universe are published by Marvel, they are as canon as it gets.

Writers write these handbooks, and most of the time, they leave out important contexts of the stories they put together.

IIRC, the feat of "crossing over to Marvel" via the Surfer/Superman comic (from what I remember from the comic) was just about as significant/impressive as any character does when they cross over to a different reality/dimension.

Don't know why you'd even mention it in your post about Mxy's power levels like it's some sort of beyond-abstract-level feat...

Originally posted by D_Dude1210

Don't know why you'd even mention it in your post about Mxy's power levels like it's some sort of beyond-abstract-level feat...

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
well the characters that do it , they do it because the writers make them, mxy just does it on his own

Really?

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
well the characters that do it , they do it because the writers make them, mxy just does it on his own

Soooo, you're saying that mxy functions without the consent of the writers and artists that write and draw the comics that he's in....

Oooooookaayy...

(get the guys in white ppl...!!) 😮

Colossus big C is right, sometimes I hang out with Mxy.

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Soooo, you're saying that mxy functions without the consent of the writers and artists that write and draw the comics that he's in....

Oooooookaayy...

(get the guys in white ppl...!!) 😮

iirc he was grabbing/messing up talk bubbles that the writers were drawing

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
not actually, but thats what the writers want to portray him as

Well, then they are not successful. facepalm

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
not actually, but thats what the writers want to portray him as

iirc he was grabbing/messing up talk bubbles that the writers were drawing

My point was "crossing over to the Marvel U from the DCU isn't really all that impressive based on how the feat is shown in comics..."

Dunno how your comment has any kind of relevance to what I was trying to say... :-/

Originally posted by Mindset
So are you of the opinion Mxy is more powerful than any other being in DC?

The fact that his powers were affected and he had to go back to the 5th dimension would seem to contradict Mxy's level of power shown in WF. It also seems to make some connection between his level of power and the 5th dimension, which no longer existed when Mxy destroyed it in WF, meh. I didn't see where Joker affected every universe in DC, could you point me in the right direction?

Didn't the bio say Mr Pickles or something like that?

Mxy has stated on more than one occasion that the 'rules' he abides by aren't ironclad -- he can break them if he so chooses. As for EJ: look in the respect thread... Pretty sure I broke it down there.

Impossible Man's bio refers to Mxy as "Mixed Pickles" -- which is what Impossible Man called Mxy (several times) in the crossover. The bio also states that "Mixed Pickles" impersonated Impossible Man on at least one occasion to torment the F4 (which is a reference to Superman #50.)

Was it ever mentioned/explained who created all the dimensions?

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Was it ever mentioned/explained who created all the dimensions?

^ Delete the Primal Monitor (as it didn't create existence), and add Synnar.

Originally posted by Galan007
^ Delete the Primal Monitor (as it didn't create existence), and add Synnar.

Would you two put these beings over Mxy even after "everything" was erased?

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Would you two put these beings over Mxy even after "everything" was erased?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Well obviously someone was still there to perceive Mxy and Bat-Mite amidst the whiteness. 😛

lucifer+micheal created all existance...

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
lucifer+micheal created all existance...

Originally posted by NotSoBad
Jim Shooter (EIC) said "He discovered us"
1 Option - Beyonder discovered Authors Avatars , this make Him greater than TOAA
2 Beyonder discovered Human race (Us) on Marvel Earth 616 and if this is true TOAA win

Why you'd consider the 1st option i dont know. The words of authors/editors etc as per forum rules are not acceptable as proof within these debates. What we were told on panel through narration and the Beyonders own words were that he was a universe outside the marvel multiverse. Thats that. Given that the Beyonder by his own admission can be reverted and affected by the m'kraan crystal he is not supreme being level.

My memory of PR Beyonder was that he DEF had Supreme-being power level (based on how he was portrayed against and interacted with the high abstracts) but crappy durability. 😄