Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
[B]Lol. WTF. I give you proof right there and now you deny it? Even Quasar questions it when they came forth. He said were Eternity and Death there all along? Eternity and Infinity states they're same being. They're just aspects of the same being, Eternity, the universe.Eternity is the universe, not just time. They're just part of the universe, Eternity.
Wrong again. In the Cosmos in Collision arc, it's Kronos that first introduces us to Infinity. He tells Maelstrom that he's expanding into her (ie he's expanding into infinite space). He doesn't say he's expanding into Eternity. You can look it up yourself.
She's the prime space being, he's the prime time being. She's so closely tied to him because space cannot exist without time.
He couldn't kill Galactus but you expect him to take out Thanos who's also unique and exist outside the influence of IB's masters. Lol. He brought Death to take out the Elders. So what is his contribution to the fight? Using his special ability to have Death kill Thanos? Influence Thanos to kill himself? What for when Mistress Love and Sire Hate are already there? You say unique but what does he bring that none of the other abstracts don't have in power? lol. He's just a redundant character to show up for the fight. He adds nothing to the group. And most importantly, he was being punished by his masters for breaking free of their MYSTIC cage.
He couldn't kill Galactus? What issue were you reading. He couldn't summon Galactus' opposite to kill him because the In-betweener himself was the opposite. Galactus was losing the fight, the In-betweener even mentions the fact that Galactus' is weakening and they haven't even reached the place where the In-betweener is strongest (the black hole).
The In-betweener ordering Death around is an awesome feat because supposedly she's greater than his creators! He has a totally unique nature and powerset that weren't duplicated by any of the abstracts there. In fact he was MORE powerful than many of the assembled crew.
PS Where was Anomaly? With his power Maelstrom laughed in the face of Thanos with the IG. Yet he was a no show during this event. So add ANOTHER powerful abstraction to our ever growing list of no shows.
Yeah for Colossus for having scans. Why don't you provide your own scans? In his own realm, Mephisto held his own against Galactus. Good feat for Agamotto stalemating Galactus but outside his realm he ain't competing with the abstracts.
Agamotto isn't a demon like Mephisto or Dormammu. He's not bound to his realm and is free to move between planes of existence at will. He was the Sorcerer Supreme of the Earth dimension for MILLIONS of years. Prove to me he behaves like Mephisto and other demon lords and that he's more powerful in his realm then he is on other planes of existence.
Plus I said VISHANTI not Agamotto by himself. Agamotto solo, stalemated Galactus, imagine if Oshtur and Hoggoth joined him in the battle? They'd be cleaning pieces of Galactus from every nook and cranny in Agamotto's realm.
Because Eternity sent them to stop Thanos. Thanos wasn't intending to destroy the universe, just usurp Eternity's position. It's not any concern of Oblivion either.
Not a few days (weeks?) earlier Oblivion was trying to use his lackey, Maelstrom, to one up Infinity and crew. Now he doesn't care that Thanos is about to become the big dog of 616? I call BS.
Even LT made only a single appearance and was absent throughout the rest of the IG saga? After this line, why take you seriously?
Yes the IG (Infinity Gauntlet) saga. Not IW (Infinity War) or IC (Infinity Crusade).
Nope, all I see is a whiner that have no feat and cling onto non-canon feats from What-If versions of the Phoenix Force to claim mainstream Phoenix can do the same thing.
What feats does Infinity and Eternity have, in this or any other universe? That's right NOTHING! Or you would have produced universal level destruction feats by them. On panel all we have from Eternity is planetary level destruction. The PF hosts have better showings than that.
LMAO. He merely cauterized the infection. Galactus release Eternity's mind from a power that's enough to create a duplicate universe. I like how you can try to say that Phoenix could've EASILY destroyed Eternity when in the next issue got handled by Dormammu.
"Merely"? Eternity was about to bite it. Read the issue. Phoenix did something Eternity COULD NOT DO, heal himself. Galactus didn't permanently free Eternity from his coma, Phoenix PERMANENTLY cured Eternity. If you don't see the difference I don't know how else to explain it to you.
It got blasted back by "dual Dormammu". The Dormammu from our universe merged with the Dormammu of the GotG universe and became some super being. Being blasted back by that isn't exactly the lowest showing by a cosmic. Unlike Nightmare's pwning of Eternity.
WTF? A Magus with the ability to move back and forth time or anywhere in space is going to have problems with Warlock "lunging" at him. That power he had was enough to stop the UN and teleport it into his hand with a thought. Warlock hardly did anything.
Uhm Thanos had the gauntlet swiped from his body when he took Eternity's place. So it's not like it hasn't happened before. Look at the pic, Magus is stunned and while distracted, Warlock is lunging toward the Gauntlet.
Just stop. Why did Galactus want to kill Rachel in the first place? And why did he release Rachel?
DUDE READ THE ISSUE. Galactus didn't want to kill anyone. He only wanted to separate the PF from it's host and return it to the cosmos. GS provided the issue. When it looked like Rachel might die as a result he didn't care until the stars started to wink out.
He was forced to released her because even as a mere host, she had her role to play in the universe. It's in the very scan YOU posted.
So what? That's your proof? So nothing then. It was a universe. That just happens to be the life form he choose to create to serve him. There's no indication it's still not a universe they existence when all indications are that it's a universe. Hell, the word universe is used at least 4 times.
Kubik kept telling him he wasn't who he thought he was (ie an omnipotent being) but merely half a cosmic cube, Beyonder was delusional . The fact that the only beings pictures in his "universe" were earth bound was a clear clue. Thor in the Atlantis Attacks Annual stated that the Beyonder's destruction of a galaxy was a mere illusion and that COMPLETE Cube beings have planetary level reality warping power at best.
And what book should I look into about Beyonder's universe being an illusion? None of the other characters that fought in that universe, including three other cube being and Doom refer to it as an illusion or pocket universe.
Nothing about the Beyonder was as it appeared to be. He thought he destroyed a galaxy to start the "Secret War" but it turned out to be an illusion (see the Thor annual).
He thought he was an omnipotent, but it was an illusion, he was merely half a cosmic cube.
