^And a short while later he's besting Bo and flipping Gorons.
The only two reasons Quan is against Link's strength is the Iron Boots and that he thinks he isnt portrayed that way. Latter can be scrapped for being an individuals idea and if Im lucky he may concede to the Boots argument... Im never lucky but lets hope he makes the right choice.
Originally posted by quanchi112
When has Link resisted an enemy's attack or resisted turning into a wolf ? Just because he resists turning evil that doesn't mean anything he's the chosen hero anyways so why would he fall victim to evil anyways.
Link turning to beast form is prophecy
Protection from the Triforce of Courage, you see
So Link won't be turned from man to ghost
He recieves a new form, a bodily host
But then the Master Sword in need
Prevents even that indeed
Link is protected from evil twice
Won't you prove the Mother's spell thrice?
Because irl like anything one attack could be shrugged off sure depending on the attack the level of defense, etc. Now if Link lets him hit him again he takes damage. If link gets hit by anyone he gets hurt. That's like seeing someone get punched twice and then saying all punches can't phase him. This logic is absurd. Right after he tanks one hit per game he takes damage every single time.
That example still isn't perfect, though
A punch can harm a human in show
Link shows no hurt, no harm in scene
Drop punch for poke and you see what I mean
A poke does no harm, why would more do?
An axe to the shows no harm, too
Link's foes and their attacks aren't as powerful as what I have seen from dragon age by just a random mage or what not. Link takes considerable damage from the bosses. That to me shows how little he can take. The Mother can take on four really powerful heroes and ancient weapons and survive them whereas Link can be killed by a piranha plant with probably like double digit attacks.
Instead of just saying, show me some
Give an example of why you think numb
The Mother can be killed by anything, really
As long as her hit points go down, she dies teary
A tiny knife is all it takes to finsish her off
Whereas Link takes blows from axe and scoff
One single hero can destroy Mother alone
Such a weak final boss undeserving of loan
Four heroes in fact Mother does not survive
But Link among plants, Deku Babas, he'll thrive
Link needs boots to throw gorons and his othe rfeats havebeen dealt with and are being misconstrued.
No, not at all, please understand
Under this scrutiny Link's strength will still stand
The only way boots help at all in a way
Is making Link heavy, how much he does weigh
They help not in strength, nor lifting, too
To argue this there's really nothing to do
That's a gameplay mechanic but the armor is powered by magic. This spell attacks the magic and depletes it.
Not powered by magic, nor mana for fact
Even with the Glyph, Link's wallet intact
And again you have yet to address
That Link can dodge it, it's worse than useless
Hyrule consists of a village, a sea land, death mountain, and the desert with minimal people resisting in there and no real capable army defending it. In dragon age there are capable opposition more so than Zelda whereas most rely on just Link as there is little else to save this land from harm.
Does this matter? Not even a little
Don't change the subject, Mother is brittle
Link takes more than she ever has
And he still stands while Mother is dead in the grass
Prove in the game the cannons can be fatal. You made the claim that surviving is awesome so prove it.
That's not mine to prove, so why don't you?
You're the one claiming the fall is no big to do
A City in the Sky and cannons made for fowl
You think is non lethal; that's really just wow
Metal on one's feet makes them able to contend with gorons per Bo. I didn't create the game. Teehee.
Bo is strong, and don't you forget
But Link is stronger as said within it
The boots provide weight and strength is all them
Unless weight is needed, Link lifts on a whim
Not my fault you don't play the games. You need to research yourself the onus isn't on me to educate you about the game.
How debates work, do you not know?
Evidence, man, you need to show
You'll post scan for comics but not for a game
That tells me you can't because the feats are too lame
One boss whereas Link can't kill one armored knight with one blow. Link's opposition also fails to impress.
Nor does the Mother's, not at all
One person and a knife will make her fall
Mother can't kill a man with no armor on
I imagine Link will just render her gone
When the master sword wasn't present prior he still was defeated so you really have no excuse he gets beat every time he shows up when he faces males.
Defeated? Oh no, that's not what it was
Ganondorf was sent away for the harm he could cause
And he can't be hurt so the last resort
Was another dimension, too bad for you, sport
Link states if hit before a mortal draw he dies. That's canon. Oh yeah.
Oh no, you once again fail
To understand to you see in your blind rail
The Hero's Shade states it leaves life at risk
Not one mention of death if an inturrupt whisk
But then does he state that crushes your hope
Mortal Draw is unblockable in the canon scope
I just don't see him doing the damage we see wardens capable of to the foes we see them battling. I see hyrule as like a little league in videogames.
How much must I tell you I care not what you think
Post any evidence you have on the brink
Without that your words are like fool's gold
Pretty to look at, but worthless, all told
Final form of what boss ?
I've told you before, I'll say it again
The giant spider boss and it's kin
The final form is killed easily
You asked for this and I told you, see?
Being hit by the blunt end is different from the rest of the axe and game play wise he gets hurt every time thereafter.
I can't tell what you want by the way you flip-flop
Between gameplay and canon no matter the stop
In canon Link remains unharmed, in truth
But gameplay has it's own rules, sooth
So choose no, which you wish
I'll see if I can accomodate that dish
Link was aided the first time he met up with Zant and if not aided he dies.
What's in the past I've told you before
Has no bearing on now in the lore
Link grew strong and won with ease
Despite before being no more than a tease
If he already had access to it why try to access it again he should already know it won't work. I mean come on.
This is the part where confusion lies
Ganondorf did not access it, see with your eyes
The Master Sword forced the Triforce to leave
Ganondorf left without Power in seive
The Triforce is passive, it works all time
Unless there's a sword to seal it in rhyme
Originally posted by BloodRain
The only two reasons Quan is against Link's strength is the Iron Boots and that he thinks he isnt portrayed that way. Latter can be scrapped for being an individuals idea and if Im lucky he may concede to the Boots argument... Im never lucky but lets hope he makes the right choice.
Thee boots argument is completely humorous in my opinion. However, he may actually have something with the latter argument. How a character is intended to seem is probably very important and judging purely on what little I've seen, Link looks like a normal guy. Strong enough to get his job done but not insanely strong.
However, since this is end of the game Link, it's irrelevant. He's become a full fledged hero and done many things that men older than him in yeas could never do. This isn't something I'm making up as this is how he is meant to be portrayed.
So, Quan, you have someone here that agrees with you argument that portrayal is important. However, it is also flawed given how Link is portrayed in the end of the game. Care to provide something else?
Edit: Forgot to note this, apparently Dragon Age>>>My verse. 🙁
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Edit: Forgot to note this, apparently Dragon Age>>>My verse. 🙁
Assuming that means Kingdom Hearts, it is a dirty lie.
Also, for emphasis:
BEGINNING OF GAME
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6:35
MID GAME, BUT NOT REALLY
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0:44
MORE MID GAME
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1:50
2:25
4:35
END GAME
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1:15
END GAME ALSO
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0:08
Anyone that watches all of this and still thinks Link has normal human strength is lying to themselves.
Originally posted by The Scenario
Assuming that means Kingdom Hearts, it is a dirty lie.
Well no, that's just his new slogan. But kewl, KH is my universe. And yeah, there are people in the Kingdom Hearts Universe that could solo Dragon Age...probably.
Originally posted by The Scenario
Anyone that watches all of this and still thinks Link has normal human strength is lying to themselves.
Pretty much. Feats gradually remain consistent it would seem.
Also, is anyone on Quan's side here? 😕
Originally posted by BloodRainHe needed to use his strength to even stay on the horse and calm her he didn't jus pet the thing and relax her. Since he struggles with calm normal horses his strength isn't superhuman. It's absurd.
Then obviously he was controlling his so not to kill his horse~ The whole point of that scene wasnt to use brute force to stop her, it was to calm her down. Proof that he had to calm her down without using super strength on her? 'Cos thats how Link's [b]portrayed. 🙂Ok and by earthly rules if you lift something up with no physical enhancements then its strength. Seeing as youve admited the boots dont give him strength.. Get my point? Here in games vs, Link is strong so says the rules~
Sure, why not. All this does is show that armour guy is strong. No victory drink there.
Relay the words back to you and watch the scene again then factor in how a person would attempt to calm down a beloved horse while youre being pulled in mid-air.
Then isnt it weird how fans, haters and neutrals all come to the same conclusion on his strength when only something you see disagrees? But I think I found the answer to that right here:
How you see him being portrayed.. so the whole song and dance about how Link's portrayed only stems from what you think?Your own logic backs you up, all the games however dont.
Good if I was asking for what it does, but hasnt answered the question to whether it can effect inanimate items that generates magic, not stores it.
Oh, so you can punt a 3 story tall ice mass back with force and speed?
So confident, too bad you havnt been able to prove anything or submit any kind of evidence to what you think...
''If youre so sure about this portrayal then go find something official like a quote or something.''
Though after you said that its only how you portray him, I guess you cant really stand by this point any more.Only two options: 1. We base it off real life where the added boot weight doesn't give you strength or 2. We go down the fictional road and say the boots give him strength. For the second option we will need proof in the form of an in-game description that states the boots make him stronger. In the KMC rules we go by real life rules unless stated otherwise. And as you can see, whether its irl or LoZ fantasy, both point to the boots doing nothing else besides anchoring Link down. Therefore your point is non-existent.
To say that Link isnt strong you will have to prove that added weight can give you strength irl (which you cant because it doesnt work like that) or alternatively prove that the Iron Boots give Link super strength. (which you cant do without a gameplay description) Or the third, smarter, more logical (and pretty much only..) choice of dropping this 'only strong because of the boots' argument. Your call pall. [/B]
In the game it's fantasy and him needing boots alters his physical makeup and makes the feat possible. If Link doesn't need the boots it's all him but since he does it ain't all him.
It shows he's stronger than Link which has always been my point to the degree of pathetic.
No, it factors into to my honest opinion not confused and brainwashed people who are all thinking he's this superhuman stud when I played through the game and no it's a huge farce.
The games do back me up.
It affects magic itself and magic powers up the armor. Is magic an animate object itself ?
It's a boss fight which is inconsistent to how he is portrayed throughout the game.
I have proven my entire case and then some. Not my fault you're too stubborn to admit you've been defeated.
1.The feat itself makes no sense irl so comparing it to real life is just as silly as turning into a wolf. Laughs. You guys seem to think fantasy worlds=======real life. I mean sometimes I can't believe a lot of what you type is serious and not sarcasm.
2.Boots give him weight needed to achieve the feat so without the boots he can't do so on his own.
To try to compare real life to videogames when it's obvious irl the feat makes no sense but still trying to argue physics is an exercise in futility.
Originally posted by The ScenarioOn his own he isn't protected and the prophecy he can't escape from. There is no prophecy either way here nor will the triforce or anything protect him from these effects.
YouTube video
YouTube videoLink turning to beast form is prophecy
Protection from the Triforce of Courage, you see
So Link won't be turned from man to ghost
He recieves a new form, a bodily host
But then the Master Sword in need
Prevents even that indeed
Link is protected from evil twice
Won't you prove the Mother's spell thrice?That example still isn't perfect, though
A punch can harm a human in show
Link shows no hurt, no harm in scene
Drop punch for poke and you see what I mean
A poke does no harm, why would more do?
An axe to the shows no harm, tooInstead of just saying, show me some
Give an example of why you think numb
The Mother can be killed by anything, really
As long as her hit points go down, she dies teary
A tiny knife is all it takes to finsish her off
Whereas Link takes blows from axe and scoff
One single hero can destroy Mother alone
Such a weak final boss undeserving of loan
Four heroes in fact Mother does not survive
But Link among plants, Deku Babas, he'll thriveNo, not at all, please understand
Under this scrutiny Link's strength will still stand
The only way boots help at all in a way
Is making Link heavy, how much he does weigh
They help not in strength, nor lifting, too
To argue this there's really nothing to doNot powered by magic, nor mana for fact
Even with the Glyph, Link's wallet intact
And again you have yet to address
That Link can dodge it, it's worse than uselessDoes this matter? Not even a little
Don't change the subject, Mother is brittle
Link takes more than she ever has
And he still stands while Mother is dead in the grassThat's not mine to prove, so why don't you?
You're the one claiming the fall is no big to do
A City in the Sky and cannons made for fowl
You think is non lethal; that's really just wowBo is strong, and don't you forget
But Link is stronger as said within it
The boots provide weight and strength is all them
Unless weight is needed, Link lifts on a whimHow debates work, do you not know?
Evidence, man, you need to show
You'll post scan for comics but not for a game
That tells me you can't because the feats are too lameNor does the Mother's, not at all
One person and a knife will make her fall
Mother can't kill a man with no armor on
I imagine Link will just render her goneDefeated? Oh no, that's not what it was
Ganondorf was sent away for the harm he could cause
And he can't be hurt so the last resort
Was another dimension, too bad for you, sportOh no, you once again fail
To understand to you see in your blind rail
The Hero's Shade states it leaves life at risk
Not one mention of death if an inturrupt whisk
But then does he state that crushes your hope
Mortal Draw is unblockable in the canon scopeHow much must I tell you I care not what you think
Post any evidence you have on the brink
Without that your words are like fool's gold
Pretty to look at, but worthless, all toldI've told you before, I'll say it again
The giant spider boss and it's kin
The final form is killed easily
You asked for this and I told you, see?I can't tell what you want by the way you flip-flop
Between gameplay and canon no matter the stop
In canon Link remains unharmed, in truth
But gameplay has it's own rules, sooth
So choose no, which you wish
I'll see if I can accomodate that dishWhat's in the past I've told you before
Has no bearing on now in the lore
Link grew strong and won with ease
Despite before being no more than a teaseThis is the part where confusion lies
Ganondorf did not access it, see with your eyes
The Master Sword forced the Triforce to leave
Ganondorf left without Power in seive
The Triforce is passive, it works all time
Unless there's a sword to seal it in rhyme
Link gets hurt the next time the enemy strikes him. He's portrayed as being hurt by anything per game so one scene you are trying to twist into him being unhurtable which is fanboyish.
Link can be killed by the lowliest of piranha plants and die by anything as well. if you hit Link with the tevinter weapons and let four party members attack him he'd die in about 3 seconds if he's lucky.
You are ignoring what happened to her prior to and if you played the game you;d realize you have to weaker her to do so it's like beating Link and cutting his throat and ignoring beating him to get him to that point. You have no logic or common sense you just stick to videos ignoring the context behind them.
Link can't lift or push around a goron without the boots and Bo makes it very clear.
Link's armor is powered by magic which can be temporarily taken away. Unless you feel it's not really magic armor you need to prove it.
Context a huge battle takes place prior to Mother being killed by the knife. Laughs. Context always destroys your arguments.
In the game is Link falls off the edge he gets hurt in the city on the sky and your initial claim was to show off how impressive the cannon was without proving it's hurt or killed anyone. See it's obvious to me this was never intended to kill anyone as is a ride by a nice man but you put your zelda must win at all costs spin which fails.
Bo isn't strong he needs the boots as does Link. With boots they can beat gorons not without.
You debate things you have no knowledge of. This is your fault not mine and only shows off how biased you are. I don't debate things I am ignorant of.
If one knife can kill her then all you need is one attack ? Can you kill the Mother with one attack by a warrior or rogue with a blade ?
Bfr defeated him. I didn't say killed I said defeated you know you don't always have to kill to defeat your foe. Laughs hard. Dorf didn't want to leave but he was powerless to prevent it.
This means his life is on the line as well. So if he gets hit he dies and he's inviting death and it's not unblockable.
Their sheer numbers and armies make zelda look pale in comparison not like you'd know though.
One boss with a certain strategy meaning it's a weaker boss. Not very impressive.
If in gameplay he is hurt every time he was struck perfectly and resisted one attack which is consistent with my stance and common sense unlike your stance of Link being unphased by all axe blows which contradicts game play and common sense and reality.
Link had a second chance and without a second chance he dies prior to but fate already decided this so zant had no chance at all. Everything is predestined which takes away from all his feats and doesn't help him at all here against dragon age. This eactually destroys your argument big time.
😂 😂 😂
Dorf tried accessing it and when it failed to aid him he died. Poor stupid villain that he was.
Originally posted by BloodRainWhy would I concede when it's so obvious I am 100 percent right.
^And a short while later he's besting Bo and flipping Gorons.The only two reasons Quan is against Link's strength is the Iron Boots and that he thinks he isnt portrayed that way. Latter can be scrapped for being an individuals idea and if Im lucky he may concede to the Boots argument... Im never lucky but lets hope he makes the right choice.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngelHow is he portrayed at the end ? he's the hero of destiny which means fate decrees he must win and with all the aid from zelda and midna he was able to overcome dorf eventually. The entire game was already predestined by fate so fate decreed he must win and must do what is possible all their parts were predecided.
Thee boots argument is completely humorous in my opinion. However, he may actually have something with the latter argument. How a character is intended to seem is probably very important and judging purely on what little I've seen, Link looks like a normal guy. Strong enough to get his job done but not insanely strong.However, since this is end of the game Link, it's irrelevant. He's become a full fledged hero and done many things that men older than him in yeas could never do. This isn't something I'm making up as this is how he is meant to be [b]portrayed
.So, Quan, you have someone here that agrees with you argument that portrayal is important. However, it is also flawed given how Link is portrayed in the end of the game. Care to provide something else?
Edit: Forgot to note this, apparently Dragon Age>>>My verse. 🙁 [/B]
Originally posted by MooCowofJusticeNo, the feat makes no sense whatsoever and without the weight being in his own body the boots wouldn't help anyone in real life. It's a game and most of it is pure fantasy so they don't have to adhere to the rules of reality because once again it's a game.
That's kind of the point to sumo wrestling. You know, to not fall out of the ring.Exactly. It'd normally be easy to just push him over. Luckily for him he's super strong, with the added weight allowing him the ability to ensure he isn't just pushed over.
Dude. Weight. The fact that Link can bench press hundreds of times his own body weight doesn't change the fact that the same body weighs no more than 200 or so pounds. How do you still not get it?
I understand physics just fine you don't understand fantasy games and the fact they can ignore anything they want to from reality.
Originally posted by MooCowofJusticeLink's not very formidable or strong. He's strong enough and faces unorganized fools and through aid finally comes through to save a country that falls very easily.
K.Beginning: Abnormally strong farm boy that can kick ass with a wooden sword.
End: Super Strong Hero of Destiny, master of the sword, bow, and other various items. Could still kick your ass with a wooden sword.
Quan disagrees. The thread continues because he can't comprehend physics at all.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Why would I concede when it's so obvious I am 100 percent right.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He needed to use his strength to even stay on the horse and calm her he didn't jus pet the thing and relax her. Since he struggles with calm normal horses his strength isn't superhuman. It's absurd.
Originally posted by quanchi112
In the game it's fantasy and him needing boots alters his physical makeup and makes the feat possible. If Link doesn't need the boots it's all him but since he does it ain't all him.
Originally posted by quanchi112
It shows he's stronger than Link which has always been my point to the degree of pathetic.
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it factors into to my honest opinion not confused and brainwashed people who are all thinking he's this superhuman stud when I played through the game and no it's a huge farce.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I have proven my entire case and then some. Not my fault you're too stubborn to admit you've been defeated.
Originally posted by quanchi112
The games do back me up.
Originally posted by quanchi112
It affects magic itself and magic powers up the armor. Is magic an animate object itself ?
Originally posted by quanchi112
It's a boss fight which is inconsistent to how he is portrayed throughout the game.
Originally posted by quanchi112
1.The feat itself makes no sense irl so comparing it to real life is just as silly as turning into a wolf. Laughs. You guys seem to think fantasy worlds=======real life. I mean sometimes I can't believe a lot of what you type is serious and not sarcasm.2.Boots give him weight needed to achieve the feat so without the boots he can't do so on his own.
To try to compare real life to videogames when it's obvious irl the feat makes no sense but still trying to argue physics is an exercise in futility.
Welcome to Games Vs, enjoy your stay. Things are compared to real life physics unless the universe states otherwise. Only way to keep your argument would be to prove that the LoZ verse has a completely different set of world rules and physics.
Now Ive seen you dance around when answering a question and usually Id waver to see where youre going, but cba to let it slide now. Seeing as 1 is what you think about fantasy not working with irl rules which doesnt work here and 2 is your opinion without evidence. Ill make it easier to see the three choices you have:
-Prove* that added artificial weight gives you strength.
-Prove* the Boots magically give him strength.
-Concede.
These are literally the only three paths to go down. If you can answer either of the first two with evidence to back it up then Ill concede. Anything else besides that is the same as the third option.
*To establish the truth or validity of by presentation of argument or evidence. [This situation requires evidence.]
Originally posted by quanchi112
On his own he isn't protected and the prophecy he can't escape from. There is no prophecy either way here nor will the triforce or anything protect him from these effects.
I give you a video of both the Triforce and the Master Sword protecting Link, and you claim Link was protected by prophecy. That is just...irritating. I have proven twice over that Link has items that protect him and you have only your word and opinion that they won't. You have proven nothing, Quanchi, and until you do, Link is unaffected by the Mother's mental attack.
Link gets hurt the next time the enemy strikes him. He's portrayed as being hurt by anything per game so one scene you are trying to twist into him being unhurtable which is fanboyish.
Do you want to use canon or gameplay?
Canon- Link was unharmed by that attack
Gameplay- Link was harmed by subsequent attacks.
Link can be killed by the lowliest of piranha plants and die by anything as well. if you hit Link with the tevinter weapons and let four party members attack him he'd die in about 3 seconds if he's lucky.
Prove it. Prove the party even has tevinter weapons. Also, I don't want to keep telling you this, but there are no Piranha Plants in any Zelda game. Those are Mario enemies. What you are thinking of are Deku Babas, and at no point are they portrayed as a threat to Link. Do you think Link will just stand still and let anyone hit him?
You are ignoring what happened to her prior to and if you played the game you;d realize you have to weaker her to do so it's like beating Link and cutting his throat and ignoring beating him to get him to that point. You have no logic or common sense you just stick to videos ignoring the context behind them.
So are you. You're ignoring Link's health and all of his abilities and skills. He could literally just Clawshot into the Mother's face for a Mortal Draw, and there is nothing she can do about this. He'll bypass the tentacles with the clawshot, he can attack before the grubs even spawn, and the Mother can't deal enough damage on her own to stop him.
Link can't lift or push around a goron without the boots and Bo makes it very clear.
He also says that strength isn't everything. Stopping a rolling Goron is all sbout weight, and strength helps. But once the Goron is actually stopped, and Link lifts it off the ground? That's all strength, and it's very clear. Bo never even knew about Dangoro, either, and lifting him makes Link superhuman
Link's armor is powered by magic which can be temporarily taken away. Unless you feel it's not really magic armor you need to prove it.
I have. The armor is powered by money. It is powered by rupees, the hylian system of currency. It is powered by Link's wallet. Link does not have any magic, so it doesn't matter if it's taken away.
Context a huge battle takes place prior to Mother being killed by the knife. Laughs. Context always destroys your arguments.
Context Mother can still be cut by a knife and Link is stronger than anything she has ever faced.
In the game is Link falls off the edge he gets hurt in the city on the sky and your initial claim was to show off how impressive the cannon was without proving it's hurt or killed anyone. See it's obvious to me this was never intended to kill anyone as is a ride by a nice man but you put your zelda must win at all costs spin which fails.
What man? There is no man running the sky cannon. I even showed you the video that proves this. Why do you keep ignoring the BIRDS? No human besides Link has ever ridden the thing, so there is no way to know what was intended, since it was built to fire BIRDS. Link being fired at a lake unharmed proves that he is highly durable, no matter what you say.
Bo isn't strong he needs the boots as does Link. With boots they can beat gorons not without.
Bo still beat a Goron in a sumo match, which requires strength. You cannot ignore Bo's strength.
You debate things you have no knowledge of. This is your fault not mine and only shows off how biased you are. I don't debate things I am ignorant of.
And you're debating things you don't understand, yet I have painstakingly attempted to teach you everything I can. Why won't you do the same for me?
If one knife can kill her then all you need is one attack ? Can you kill the Mother with one attack by a warrior or rogue with a blade ?
No, because they are weak. But Link has a legitimate one hit kill and legitimate super strength, so he very well can pull it off.
Bfr defeated him. I didn't say killed I said defeated you know you don't always have to kill to defeat your foe. Laughs hard. Dorf didn't want to leave but he was powerless to prevent it.
And as I explained in the revelant thread, that means absolutely nothing and does not support you at all.
This means his life is on the line as well. So if he gets hit he dies and he's inviting death and it's not unblockable.
Show me where Link dies in one hit if he fails. Please, go ahead. Now, if you can't, you'll just have to accept that Link can pull this off with or without the armor before Mother can hit him, and even if she does, Link can just do it again.
Their sheer numbers and armies make zelda look pale in comparison not like you'd know though.
You are aware that research is one of my specialties here, right? I have this amazing ability to search youtube for hours and finds feats and things in order to gather evidence. I know perfectly well what I'm talking about, thank you very much.
One boss with a certain strategy meaning it's a weaker boss. Not very impressive.
Mother is a weak final boss, what with her relatively low HP pool and mediocre damage compared to most others. GK showed you that video of just someone killing her solo, right?
If in gameplay he is hurt every time he was struck perfectly and resisted one attack which is consistent with my stance and common sense unlike your stance of Link being unphased by all axe blows which contradicts game play and common sense and reality.
But not canon. By cutscene, Link was unharmed. By gameplay, Link was harmed but he can take several of those attacks and be fine.
Link had a second chance and without a second chance he dies prior to but fate already decided this so zant had no chance at all. Everything is predestined which takes away from all his feats and doesn't help him at all here against dragon age. This eactually destroys your argument big time.
No, it doesn't. Your fatalistic argument hold no water, since Link still kicked Zant's ass six ways to sunday. This is the same as the Past Ganondorf vs Current Ganondorf thing. Past Link was not as good as Zant. Current Link destroyed him.
Dorf tried accessing it and when it failed to aid him he died. Poor stupid villain that he was.
Why do you hate Ganondorf so much? Honestly, you just keep taking these potshots with nothing to support you at all. I have repeatedly shown you that the Triforce is passive and Ganondorf was not trying to access it. You are ignoring my words and just trying to troll. Please be mature about this in the future.
Originally posted by BloodRainI didn't say I am right 100 percent of the time I said I was right in this thread 100 percent. You don't even understand what it is I am saying it would appear.
Haha not oven the most obnoxious people here actually think they're 100% right all the time. You should concede like anyone else would if they weren't able to submit proof.All he had to do was wait for the girl to calm down... thats it. Unless you want to bring up a chart showing the correlation between strength and waiting..
Remember what I said all but 1 post ago? We go by Earth rules, fantasy game or not. If you got a problem take it up with a mod cos thats how things work here. ''alters his physical makeup'' <- needs soo much proof as wow, this isnt even hinted upon.
Oh so someone being stronger then another means that the latter is weak? Theres an exact 50/50 that says that the former is strong y'know. This point isnt helping anyone. Continue if you wish.
Ok now understand this; your 'honest opinion' means as much as my or anyone else's honest opinion... absolutely nothing without proof. For a second there I actually began to think that you read something a developer said to get that portrayal thing :/
If someone were to state their case and and backed it up with evidence, not word, then Id concede like with anyone else in the past. Youre missing the part about the [b]evidence.
No offence but in these 11 pages you havnt given any actual proof or evidence besides what you think. Do you honestly believe that someone's opinion is above evidence?Oh yeah, remember in the game when Link couldn't lift a Goron or when the boots altered his physical makeup? Good times. The game says he lifts something, knocks something back,
All you know is how it can effect a person. Not an item. Nor do I actually care as Link doesn't even need this..
Yeah you cant play that portrayal card no more as its just your own opinion. Opinions<<facts=what the game shows=the points Im talking about. Mr Scenario just showed several instances of strength.
Something that Scenario missed;
YouTube video
1:00- Link is pulling and pushing a large metal cage. Calcs put it at 50~tons, but even with a simple glance its undeniable that its heavier then 500 kg/peak human.
1:15- Link pulls the chain and lifts the metal chandelier. Calcs put it at hundreds of tons, and again you can tell by just looking at it that its well over 500kg.Welcome to Games Vs, enjoy your stay. Things are compared to real life physics unless the universe states otherwise. Only way to keep your argument would be to prove that the LoZ verse has a completely different set of world rules and physics.
Now Ive seen you dance around when answering a question and usually Id waver to see where youre going, but cba to let it slide now. Seeing as 1 is what you think about fantasy not working with irl rules which doesnt work here and 2 is your opinion without evidence. Ill make it easier to see the three choices you have:
-Prove* that added artificial weight gives you strength.
-Prove* the Boots magically give him strength.
-Concede.These are literally the only three paths to go down. If you can answer either of the first two with evidence to back it up then Ill concede. Anything else besides that is the same as the third option.
*To establish the truth or validity of by presentation of argument or evidence. [This situation requires evidence.] [/B]
If someone has Superman strength they can easily with strain the horse without being flipped off her unlike Link who is as strong as he needs to be and someone super strong would easily with strain this horse.
Even by earth rules he needed to alter his weight so he isn't strong enough without the boots to stop the goron making the feat not count.
They weren't even close in strength with the ease in which the enemy wielded it to Link's two hands and struggle to use this weapon. Typical weak argument imo and pretty much everyone in zelda becomes super freaks for your lack of argument for it to stick which it still doesn't.
I grasp what the developers were getting at you didn't and hanging around a battle vs. and micro analyzing feats it's no wonder why.
I've given examples of how he is portrayed and destroyed his supposed strength feats yet you claim I bring no evidence. Poppycosh.
Yes, the game makes it clear Link isn't strong enough on his own without the boots. Game backs me up 100 percent.
It affects Link who is wearing the armor. Wow.
No, he didn't he exaggerated and made no sense with his claims. I don't buy it and neither should you.
These numbers are just another example of fans attaching speculative numbers here just like the spiderman example. You can't prove it and like I said he's as strong as he needs to be in this game.
I've already been over this if Link was strong enough to best a goron on his own he wouldn't need the boots but since he does he isn't strong enough to do anything to a goron without the added weight the boots give him.