Mass Effect 3

Started by Nephthys64 pages

Originally posted by BackFire
http://www.reddit.com/r/masseffect/comments/ruz0u/merizan_crew_reunited_possible_in_some_scenarios/

Several twitter links in the above link. Some may consider info spoilers, nothing very specific or major though.

Yes, finally! Something good from all of this.

Obviously the only ending Shep can reunite with the rest of the peeps is the

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destroy
option.

...

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Sorry EDI...

EDI stepped off the Normandy

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in my Destroy ending.

Originally posted by Nephthys
EDI stepped off the Normandy
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in my Destroy ending.

Really? That makes little sense. But I guess the DLC will explain that, or something.

I sure hope they explain a little more about

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the star child's weird logic. Wanting to know what happens after the ending was not the only problem people had with the end of the game.

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No, I think its just incompetence in terms of who steps off the Normandy. Right now anyone can get out even if they should be dead or on Earth. No-ones been able to work out what factors determine who gets out yet.
Originally posted by Nephthys
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No, I think its just incompetence in terms of who steps off the Normandy. Right now anyone can get out even if they should be dead or on Earth. No-ones been able to work out what factors determine who gets out yet.

Probably just more lazy ending wrap ups... That's what happens when you copy paste an ending like it's supposed to be different. It's really a shame. 🙁

PAX Panel
I wrote the way I thought fans probably wanted it to end, which was on this amazing note of friendship.

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Oh yeah, here's a liveblog of the Pax panel. Enjoy them bullshitting around the ending contraversy!

I really hope hes talking about the Garrus friendship there. I'm about to flip my shit.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I really hope hes talking about the Garrus friendship there. I'm about to flip my shit.

He's talking about

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Shepard and Starchild obviously. Total bromance there at the end.

http://www.examiner.com/video-game-in-denver/mass-effect-3-resurgence-extended-cut-dlc-s

Free multiplayer stuff this Tuesday.

Including Krogan Battlemaster. o:

No, the fans didn't want those endings. What moron would think that?

A FVCKTON OF NEW INFO HERE:

'Okay, here is what I asked Patrick Weekes, and his answers as best as I can remember them. I've paraphrased but I'm doing my best to stick to what he said rather than introduce any interpretation.

THESE ARE NOT DIRECT QUOTES.

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-Is there still a setting to explore after the ending? Is everything ruined?

The setting is definitely not ruined. We still have a big, lively galaxy.

-Will long-distance superluminal travel still be possible post-Ending? (will Tali or Wrex or Garrus see their homeworlds again? Will everyone starve?)

Galactic civilization will rebuild. The mass relays were not necessary for interstellar flight. Remember, what does it say in the Codex about the speed of ships? That's right, 12 lightyears per (day? hour? minute?). And that's only the cruising speed, not the maximum speed.

People have never needed to research basic FTL improvements before because they have mass relays. With the relays gone, new technology will increase that speed. Additionally, the element zero cores of the dead/controlled Reapers can be used to improve FTL drives. Starflight will continue using conventional FTL.

-Why did Joker leave Shep behind?

Joker would never abandon Shep without a good reason. Hopefully this will be clear in the Expanded Cut.

-Why can EDI survive the Destroy ending?

We argued a lot about this, I said that she was made of Reapertech and should therefore be destroyed, but (unclear, don't remember - wish I'd been able to ask a followup as his response doesn't make much sense)
-Did anyone on the Citadel survive?

Yes. We would never, ever do anything that made the player feel, on replay, that it would be better for everyone on the Citadel if they just died. The Citadel has emergency shelters and kinetic barriers - even if it blows up, millions might survive. You should assume that everyone plot-important on the Citadel survived.

-Is it better for Kelly Chambers if we talk her into suicide?

No, see above.

-Who wrote the death of Joker's sister?

I did! We intentionally did not connect the dots. We were very interested to see how fast gamers figured it out.

-Whose idea was it to make the Rayya fall out of the sky if you destroy the Quarian fleet?

Someone in the audio department, it was brilliant.

-Did the mass relays pull an Arrival and go supernova?

No, they didn't. (i'm paraphrasing here, please don't interpret this too hard) They overloaded, they didn't rupture. We really didn't mean to imply that the whole galaxy had been destroyed. People interpreted the ending in ways we really didn't expect.

(Mr. Weekes dropped a lot of hints that he really didn't like the ending. He also said something that was almost 100% verbatim from the Penny Arcade Forum post often attributed to him)

-Why did Legion pull a 180 from his Mass Effect 2 philosophy?

He and the Geth were backed into a corner. They'd been made a lot dumber by the attack on the Dyson swarm. There was no other choice for Geth survival.

-What was up with the Rachni story? Why did we get railroaded?

Welcome to game development. In some games (Alpha Protocol) they make a bold choice where some decisions can knock entire missions out of the story. At BioWare, we never want people to be locked out of content due to a decision several games ago. We just didn't have the resources to do an alternate for the Rachni mission, so we decided that the Rachni mission could occur whether or not players saved the Queen.

-Why didn't (X squadmate from ME2) return?

There was a very ugly month of development where we fought out who would return. We knew we had to have a smaller cast so we could fit in more squad banter. Eventually we decided to bring Garrus and Tali back, so they could be squadmates in all three games. We also knew we'd have Vega in order for new players to have someone dumber than they were.

I was very resentful of Vega at first because I thought he was taking a slot that could've gone to a ME2 character, but he grew on me.

-Why did EDI have cameltoe?

We don't get a lot of feedback from the art department but (unclear, wish I remembered this better )

Lots of discussion about how he was uncomfortable doing Pinocchio stories for both Legion and EDI because 'EDI was fine, she was an AI, she was cool - do we really need her to turn into Commander Data? We had seven seasons of Data, that was enough.'

-Why did you write Pinocchio stories for all the synthetic caracters?

See above

-What was up with the Human Reaper in ME2? Why did it look so dumb?

We wanted to use the Suicide Mission to show several steps of the Reaper development process, from human reaper embryo all the way to cuttlefish. But the mission grew too complicated so it was cut for time.

Do the Reapers really only generate one capital ship per cycle? How do they ever break even?

Well, we never totally pinned that down. But this cycle was really anomalous. They don't normally take any capital-size Reaper losses at all.

-What was up with Kai Leng? How do you feel about him?

We really wanted to have a recurring antagonist for Shep, a 'Darth Maul' (his words). But I feel like there was some definite conflict between cutscene and gameplay there, and I think it's something we have to work on.

'He was a great antagonist in the books'

-Why did we only get top and bottom dialogue choices, no middle?

Part of it was resources. Part of it is that Mass Effect 3 is a war story and it's really hard for Shep to feel middling about the Reapers.

-How did YOU feel about the ending?

(I didn't ask this, but he seems to have gone to GREAT lengths to think ways around a lot of stuff the ending implied.)

Why no female (alien X?)

Resource limitations. They have a very strict budget for how many different characters they can use in a given area. Some are basically free - if you have human males you have Batarians because they're humans with funny heads, if you have human females you have asari, etc.

Where was Harbinger? Can we ASSUME DIRECT CONTROL of him?

I definitely want more closure on Harbinger. That'd be hilarious. Stop punching yourself, Harbinger.

Things I wish I'd asked:

Why the damn Starchild?

What was up with the Stargazer? (He touched on the Stargazer once and pretty much said 'oh, yeah, the Stargazer.'

Again: NOT DIRECT QUOTES. These are NOT OFFICIAL BIOWARE STATEMENTS. Please don't **** Patrick Weekes over by posting these as 'official BioWare PR' or whatever. Please feel free to ask me follow-up questions, as I definitely didn't cover the whole conversation with him.


My takeaway was: the epilogue DLC is probably going to do a lot of good and be pretty well written, and Patrick Weekes should've been lead writer on ME3.

A lot of that seems pretty cool.

Yeah, I think the epilogue DLC, especially since it's not being rushed, should cover a lot of stuff, and will hopefully be satisfying, even if it's not the indoctrination theory.

Do want moar Harbinger though.

How were you able to talk to him and get him to answer so many questions? I thought Bioware guys were trying their best to avoid talking about these things.

PAX. I didn't ask him, I'm just reposting from this thread. The dude half-way down the page talked to him.

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Apparantly Patrick Weeves might be in trouble for... um, actually reassuring the fanbase. I mean, seriously god forbid he actually answers some god damn questions in a Q&A session at a freaking convention. Bioware PR is so ****ing incompetent.

I still don't dare to read any of your posts, but I just have to vent my anger at this game somewhere.

Spoiler for about mid-end of the game I guess.

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I just met the most boring and silly character in this game, Kai Leng for a second time (Thessia). And I just hate it how the game seizes all control off my hands and let that wuss "beat" me in a blood cutscene. I was wiping the floor with his face during actual gameplay, and then they cut to a cutscene where Shepard and co are complete retards, and Kai Leng just walks over us. What a piece of shit.

A complete piece of shit. If the ending everyone are in an uproar over is anything like that, then I can understand what everyone complain about.

Gah, I can't ****ings return to this game anytime soon. Good way of completely ruining my immersion to an otherwise awesome game BioWare. Berh.