Originally posted by Nephthys
People are thinking thatSpoiler:
it means that the Starchild is really Harbinger like the indoc. theory speculated.
I think it's more likely that
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Starchild looking like the child that haunts Shepard is just the catalyst projecting a recognizable and comforting image of himself so Shepard won't be alarmed by him. Similar to the aliens in the movie Contact. His 'true' voice is simply one that sounds like a reaper. That's what I took away from it.
Originally posted by BackFire
I think it's more likely thatSpoiler:
Starchild looking like the child that haunts Shepard is just the catalyst projecting a recognizable and comforting image of himself so Shepard won't be alarmed by him. Similar to the aliens in the movie Contact. His 'true' voice is simply one that sounds like a reaper. That's what I took away from it.
Me too, though I really have no idea why it looks like that stupid random kid, or why Shepard gives a shit about that one little shit.
Renegade Shepard probably would have shot that kid herself if she could have.
Originally posted by ares834
The synthesis ending is bad... Laughably bad. It has gone from bad too worse.Spoiler:Plus it continues to seem to be the most morally wrong.
When the Husk gained sentience I literally lol'ed.
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Forget Husks. You've really just got to wonder in complete horror what life would be like for a Brute, or a Banshee or one of those things made from about 12 heads stuck together or that thing with a gun for an arm.Plus theres all the objects that apparantly came to life. Synthesis comes with some quality Fridge Horror. Its insane if you think about it for a while.
'The Journal of Javik, Last of the Protheans
Day 1.
Today, a shambling mutated insectoid mockery of my race shambled up to me and asked me in a distorted voice to explain how to have sex with another of its kind. This morning when I attempted to take a shit, I found myself unable to remove my pants, as they have fused to my ass. Attempts to remove them were more painful than you can imagine, and I am force to let the turds force their way down my pants legs. Also the turds have circuits.
I cannot stop screaming.
The Journal of Javik, Last of the Protheans
Day 47
This morning, I awoke to discover that I can hear all of Joker's thoughts. All of them, including the ones he has while rutting with his synthetic toy.
All of my attempts to kill myself have been unsuccessful. Last night I attempted to electrocute myself with a hair dryer in my bath, but the hair dryer turned itself off in self defense. The day before I attempted to strap high explosives to myself and hurl my body into the void, but the bombs began arguing existentialist philosophy with the airlock mechanism. Also, I can now apparently breathe in space.
Shepard. I hate you, Shepard.
The Journal of Javik, Last of the Protheans
Day 53
Today, I met a husk with a piece of paper with the number "27" scrawled on it, taped to its head. Even though our beers screamed and begged not to be consumed, we drank for several hours at the bar, trying to ignore the bar itself yelling at the beer to shut the **** up and the glasses from which we drank the beer complaining that my lips are too slimy.
The husk told me a tale of woe, how it spends every day remembering what it was to be human and how it can no longer feel or love, but is doomed to suffer eternal remembrance of what it was once, its sorrows spiced by the joy it feels from everyone else through the hive mind. Apparently, I can have sex with husks.
My latest suicide attempt has ended in failure. I convinced the Normandy's waste processing systems to crush my skull, only to wake up a few hours later with a splitting headache. According to the door to the women's lavatory, I "reverted to my last save point".
I do not remember entering the women's lavatory. I had previously assumed the doors cannot actually open. '
My view of the endings:
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1) Destroy- This is the only ending that truly feels like Shepard is victorious. The Reapers and the Starchild finally get what is coming for them after countless cycles of genocide and destruction. Sure, the Geth and EDI are lost, but true victory requires sacrifice. Best of alll, the galaxy is left to choose its own path and is not subjugated to the whim of a "god".2) Control- At first glance this one is great. Shepard now controls the Reapers and with them he can rebuild and defend the galaxy. But the whole ending has a very ominous tone. Shepard is now a god. He could easily restart the cycle or even subjugate the galaxy to his rule. And of course, it's implied that Shepard isn't really Shepard any more.
3) Reject- Shepard remains true to his ideals and gives the finger to the Reaper's Boss. The Reapers then devastate the galaxy, but with the knowledge preserved by Liara the next cycle destroys the Reapers. The only question is, did they use the catalyst? Regardless, this ending is very much a "game over".
4) Synthesis- This ending has Shepard and the galaxy lose. The Starchild, the kid who thinks it's a good idea to wipe out all life to prevent synthetics from wiping out all life, achieves its goal. Quite simply, Shepard rebuilds the galaxy in the vision of the Reapers. Worse still, Shepard is removing diversity from the galaxy and forcing life to become what he wishes. Furthermore, the husks and other Reaper monstrosities are now sentient. (and it makes no sense)
The one good thing about the ending is EDI's speech.
Originally posted by ares834
My view of the endings:Spoiler:
The only question is, did they use the catalyst? Regardless, this ending is very much a "game over".
http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/12763667#12764049
Bottom of the page.
Leviathan DLC discovered in Extended Cut's files.
So wait. If you can
Spoiler:, won't that contradict almost everything the starchild said to Shepard?
recruit a Reaper
Spoiler:Does not compute.
It created the Reapers and one of 'em turned traitor and if that Reaper can do it, why can't the rest?
Originally posted by Zack Fair
So...the new ending is out eh? Are they any good? mmm Wonder if I should bother finishing me1/2
Well they're way better than what we had before but they aren't exactly what we hoped for either but at least Bioware filled up most of the plot holes in the end but I'm still disappointed that
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the Indoctrination Theory was shot down despite obvious signs of Reapers getting into Shepard's mind and the Refuse ending giving the finger to anyone not wanting to pick any of the three choices that bratty Catalyst offers. You'd think uniting the galaxy would be the solution and the Protheans only lost 'cause they didn't do that but nope. Try to do what Luke in Return of the Jedi did and you're screwed. I can't help but feel that Bioware was being immature when they were making that ending.
I think
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that the Refuse ending is pretty accurate, you can't beat the Reapers without the Crucible; you refuse all the options, you lose. I agree with Joe, however, that it should have shown your war assets and allies go down fighting in that case, would have made the ending so much more emotional.
Originally posted by FinalAnswer
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that the Refuse ending is pretty accurate, you can't beat the Reapers without the Crucible; you refuse all the options, you lose. I agree with Joe, however, that it should have shown your war assets and allies go down fighting in that case, would have made the ending so much more emotional.
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I was under the assumption you CAN beat the Reapers. When I seemed to have had more than enough War Assets and went to Earth, it looked like the moment my fleet of united races entered the Sol System, they were kicking even the Reaper Capital Ships' (Sovereign-class Reapers in other words) asses when they blew their tentacles off IIRC.