John McClane versus Rorschach...

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
No, you don't understand. Read it again:

See, here's the deal with McClane. You gotta kill him quick. The longer the fight drags out, the more his luck comes into play. A fight with Rorschach is gonna drag out. Rorschach is gonna beat on McClane, beat on him some more, gonna have McClane bleeding and in pain, but eventually Mac will run across a crowbar and bury it in Rorschach's head. That's how McCla playne fights. That's how he wins. That's why he's always the last man standing.

Example of someone who will beat Mac h2h? Riggs. Why? Because Riggs has shown that he can kill someone in the blink of an eye. He wouldn't put Mac down for good with kicks and punches, he'd do it by breaking his neck seconds into the fight.

I was saying in a H2H battle you gotta kill McClane quick, before his luck factor comes into play. I used Riggs as an example of someone who kills people quick, with swift neck breaks. I probably should have used someone else as an example, but what's done is done.

oh ok..

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
YouTube video

thanks for finding that

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
The bit RJ refers to(Back on Page 2)

i read that, thankie thankie

Originally posted by Robtard
How else do we explain how a man driving a truck and who's being attacked by a hi-tech jump-jet, ends up with said man surviving, but the truck, the jet and a large portion of the freeway are left in a smoldering ruin?

Answer: McClane-Factor

A.K.A Plot Device.

This thread is troll bait. Rorschach wins.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Has Riggs been through anything like Die Hards 1,2,3 or 4? (especially without a special life partner wiping his chin throughout..)
Nope.

He didn't have to. Unlike Riggs, McClane isnt captured ever 23.4 seconds.
And he blew a 747 up with 20 highly trained Pentagon Marines turned mercs.
...With just a zippo and a little imagination. Thats WAY better.

Riggs is comparatively thick.

You're almost outta dimes. 🙂

Who's faster? Who's stronger? Who's got a better H2H record? Who took on 4 asians in Murtaugh's house and won? Who took on 4-5 ARMED guys in the vid I posted, breaking their necks and blowing them to kingdom come? Riggs. Riggs. Riggs. Riggs. Riggs.

Who rarely wins a H2H battle? Who has his ass kicked on a regular basis? Who lost to a girl? Mac. Mac. Mac.

See, forget all the rest. Forget the SUV's, forget the Crown Vic, forget the zippo. Place Riggs and Mac in a boxing ring, each one unarmed and wearing only sweats, and see who wins. Riggs.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/inanimate

Might be helpful to you. The jets not alive, but isn't inanimate either.

And it was flown by an alive pilot.

Yeah, that jet pilot sure wreaked havoc, he sure tore the freeway up. You know, because it was his jet, because he was flying it. He was actually responsible for every bot of damage in that chase scene.

I actually don't mind Riggs at all, but he's not going to beat McClane man. In no way are his feats as impressive as McClane's. No way. And if you're still sticking strictly to your hand to hand theory... well McClane's durability outlasts Riggs.

Originally posted by Kaibs
I actually don't mind Riggs at all, but he's not going to beat McClane man. In no way are his feats as impressive as McClane's. No way.

Also, for almost every feat Mac has, Riggs has one similar.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Riggs foiled the Colonel's plans, the South Africans plans, Jack Travis's plans, and the plans of the Triad in LW4. Chinese Triad>>>>Eurotrash terrorists.

Mac is not some rocket scientist, he doesn't even know how to use a fax machine and knows shit about computers.

In LW3, Riggs took out a high rise. In LW2, he took out a big ass house with his truck. So I guess Riggs is better at mass destruction!!!

Let's itemize this, shall we?

[b]DESTROYING BUILDINGS: Mac took out a few floors of a high rise with C4.

Riggs took out an entire high rise with one snip of his wire cutters.

ADVANTAGE RIGGS

USING A VEHICLE AS A WEAPON: Mac killed a skinny asian chick with a Ford Explorer, and took out a chopper with a Crown Vic. Both vehicles were rendered useless afterwards.

Riggs took out a house with his pickup truck. The truck sustained no damage and he drove it to kill the South Africans.

ADVANTAGE RIGGS

DAMAGE SOAK Mac gets the shit kicked out of him on a regular basis, comes back and wins.

Riggs took six .44 caliber rounds to the lung and a bayonet through his thigh and lived to the next movie. And no, Murtaugh did not save Riggs' life here, the S. African was out of ammo. Riggs took all the dude had and lived.

ADVANTAGE RIGGS

MISCELLANEOUS: Mac took out an airliner with his zippo and a long trail of jet fuel. The F-35 doesn't count, it didn't die because of a direct act from McClane. If anything, the F-35 died as a result of it's own actions.

Riggs used the flamethrower guy to take out an 18 wheeler AND a convenience store in one fell swoop. Riggs killed a man with a surfboard.

EVEN

STAMINA: Mac has good stamina, he keeps going and going and going.

Riggs chased down a speeding car, shot it to shit, would have caught Joshua had he not been hit by another car.

EVEN

H2H COMBAT SKILLS: Mac is a brawler, little "skill" if any.

Riggs takes on 4-5 men at a time and wins. He breaks necks like they were toothpicks.

ADVANTAGE RIGGS

H2H COMBAT RECORD: Mac lost two H2H fights, first to the Colonel, then to the Ninja Chick.

Riggs lost two H2H fights. One to Travis, one to Li. He came back and killed them both though.

Te deal breaker here is that Riggs is faster, stronger, has more damage soak, and routinely takes on 4-5 men and wins.

ADVANTAGE RIGGS

When did Mac ever take on 4-5 men and win? I'd really like an answer to this. Wait, I've already asked this several times and it's been dodged.

/thread.

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Wrong thread, but a very good post. I really can't argue with that. I could nitpick, but it would not really change the content. 👆

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Then I watched the LW movies a short while after and rediscovered how superior Riggs is when compared to Mac.

Let the court show that John had the LW movie marathon due to my force-like persuasion skills. I was all Riggs, the entire time, then suggested he re-watch the LW movies. The ****er actually did it. 😆

So RJ need only do another Diehard marathon and he'd stop swinging from Riggs' nuts and jump on over to McClane's, where it's warm and comforting.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
H2H feats are far more impressive. We need a thread that removes all outside elements. On it ✅

Also, for almost every feat Mac has, Riggs has one similar.

Yes well, when Riggs sends a car flying over a booth into a Chopper you let me know.

YouTube video

Win.

Originally posted by Robtard
Win.

👆

Originally posted by Robtard
So RJ need only do another Diehard marathon and he'd stop swinging from Riggs' nuts and jump on over to McClane's, where it's warm and comforting.

Originally posted by Kaibs
Yes well, when Riggs sends a car flying over a booth into a Chopper you let me know.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Yes, well, next time McClane uses a human being to take out an 18 wheeler AND a convenience store, and several cars around, you let me know.

F-35 Lightning II, semi-truck and freeway, you raging homosexual.

Originally posted by Robtard
Seems like an ordinary fleet vehicle used to taxi people around.

But in the hands of McClane, it's a deadly anti-copter missile.

😂
💃 💃 💃

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Who's faster? Who's stronger? Who's got a better H2H record? Who took on 4 asians in Murtaugh's house and won? Who took on 4-5 ARMED guys in the vid I posted, breaking their necks and blowing them to kingdom come? Riggs. Riggs. Riggs. Riggs. Riggs.

Who rarely wins a H2H battle? Who has his ass kicked on a regular basis? Who lost to a girl? Mac. Mac. Mac.

See, forget all the rest. Forget the SUV's, forget the Crown Vic, forget the zippo. Place Riggs and Mac in a boxing ring, each one unarmed and wearing only sweats, and see who wins. Riggs.

McClane. Hes just less flash/straight a-to-b whereas Riggs screws around too much.
So what? Its a nice clip/sequence in that movie, but McClane's slaughterings put them in the shade.
You rhythmically saying his name like that...were you about to splooge..? 😛

Dont be silly. He knocked Ninja chick out, then after she took advantage of his distraction in trying to save the whole Eastern seaboard and Matthew...for which he cosily inserted an entire SUV in her formerly tight rectum. MacWin.

I think anyone who has seen Lethal Weapon 3 onwards will agree that the ring is the LAST place Riggs would wanna be with McClane.

You seen Million Dollar Baby...? Riggs'd be the Hilary Swank character and McClane'd be that brutal opponent that would put the chair up her ass.
🙂

Originally posted by Robtard
F-35 Lightning II, semi-truck and freeway, you raging homosexual.

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