Omega Red vs the Warrior Three

Started by Omega Vision28 pages

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
yes and? what does being a god do?

Having a different kind of lifeforce.

Originally posted by jrodslam
I dont recall Red's powers not being able to work on Chamber. He just didnt use them. Well at least not the Death Factor. I havent read the book in over a year, but correct me if im wrong.

I dont remember him using them. but I think people assume red does when ever he makes contact which is not the case. He actively activates his powers.

but then again I read the fight once like 5 years ago.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Having a different kind of lifeforce.

is there any evidence of this?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
It's worked on Colossus three times...
What 3 times?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Having a different kind of lifeforce.
that don't mean shit!

Originally posted by Starscream M
that don't mean shit!

Do you have any proof of that?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Do you have any proof of that?
yeah, they're often less durable than non-god characters.

Originally posted by Starscream M
yeah, they're often less durable than non-god characters.

What does durability have to do with life-force?

^ It provides an inchoate false distinction to act like an argument is being proven. All that's being done is arguing that the complete negative of their argument hasn't been proven.

What a waste of time.

Originally posted by Silent Master
What does durability have to do with life-force?
it means they're vulnerable to the same stuff mortals are

if they're physically vulnerable...it stands to reason they're energetically vulnerable as well

Originally posted by Starscream M
it means they're vulnerable to the same stuff mortals are

if they're physically vulnerable...it stands to reason they're energetically vulnerable as well

wtf is energetically vulnerable, until someone can prove OR can affect anyone with godly physiology, then the point is baseless

Originally posted by Starscream M
it means they're vulnerable to the same stuff mortals are

if they're physically vulnerable...it stands to reason they're energetically vulnerable as well

Except disease and radiation, oops. you're comparison just failed.

BTW, You know what else is physically vulnerable, robots and guess what. OR can't effect robots with the spores.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ They didn't work. Skin mentions that's exactly why Omega Red tossed Jono into the water rather than fight him. Why have gods proven to be more resistant to Rogue's lifeforce? Is Ares immune to being tired better than Colossus? No. Why have gods proven more resistant to Gorgon's stone stare? Was Phobos physically stronger than Colossus? No.

Why were they immune to these mutant powers somehow? Because they were gods. That's exactly the reason given. Arbitrary? Yes. On-panel tho? Definitely. Sorry if you can't get over that fact. Sorry you have to rely on false distinctions because you're caught between a negative proof fallacy and a no limit fallacy.

You're arguing in circles and ending up with forcing a negative proof fallacy over and over again. Warriors Three pummel the crap out of Omega Red with their numbers and weapons. Death spores taking them out is pure speculation until proven otherwise. Colossus/Iceman/Wolverine =/= Volstagg/Hogun/Fandrall. Omega Red's powers do not have no limit. Godly natures have no-sold mutant powers randomly on-panel in several situations, even life-force absorbing ones.

We don't have to prove they could never work. You have to prove they would work. That's all there is to it.

Awesome. Rogue has also drained Thor, and she's also failed to drain Colossus while in his organic steel form. What does that have to do with Arkady? Rogues abilities are inconsistent and have no baring on this discussion. Gorgon's powers effect on gods. Rogues powers effect on gods. Neither of them have any relevance to this Omega Red's abilities. He's drained immortals with large life forces, he'll drain the Warriors Three, no reason to believe other wise other than blind fanaticism.

You propose that the Warriors Three will be resistant because they have a disproportionally large life force? So what? So do Wolverine and Colossus, and he's drained both of them. There is nothing to suggest Red can't drain them, and his feats STRONGLY suggest that he can. If you want to make a case otherwise you need a stronger argument then "Because the are called gods!"

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Why have gods proven to be more resistant to Rogue's life absorption?

They havent

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I Why have gods proven more resistant to Gorgon's stone stare? Was Phobos physically stronger than Colossus? No.


I dont really seee how gorgon relevent. If anything Daken far more relevent because his move is also base off a pheramone. Daken pheramone manipulation did a number on Ares.

Also Phobo being immune could be argued it becuase he the god of fear, and gorgon powers work off petrifying like the gorgon of his namesake.

Originally posted by Silent Master
, You know what else is physically vulnerable, robots and guess what. OR can't effect robots with the spores.
according to srank or someone, OR was able to affect a robot iirc. so there, CHECKMATE!

Volstagg solos. Nobody in this thread is beating the volumnous one. sneer

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
They havent
Loki, Ares. Have you missed that?
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
I dont really seee how gorgon relevent. If anything Daken far more relevent because his move is also base off a pheramone. Daken pheramone manipulation did a number on Ares.

Also Phobo being immune could be argued it becuase he the god of fear, and gorgon powers work of petrifying like the gorgon of his namesake.

Of course you wouldn't. Because you don't want to recognize that godly natures, in and of themselves, actually no-sell mutant powers arbitrarily.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Awesome. Rogue has also drained Thor, and she's also failed to drain Colossus while in his organic steel form. What does that have to do with Arkady? Rogues abilities are inconsistent and have no baring on this discussion. Gorgon's powers effect on gods. Rogues powers effect on gods. Neither of them have any relevance to this Omega Red's abilities. He's drained immortals with large life forces, he'll drain the Warriors Three, no reason to believe other wise other than blind fanaticism.
You're asking me to prove that Omega Red's deaths pores could never work. I'm not making that argument. Stop forcing it. How blind are you to this simple fact? You're arguing a negative proof fallacy.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
You propose that the Warriors Three will be resistant because they have a disproportionally large life force? So what? So do Wolverine and Colossus, and he's drained both of them. There is nothing to suggest Red can't drain them, and his feats STRONGLY suggest that he can. If you want to make a case otherwise you need a stronger argument then "Because the are called gods!"
Why do I have to prove they're resistant? You haven't even proven they'd be susceptible in the first place!

Christ. Ya'll do yourselves a favor. Go to wikipedia and look up negative proof fallacy. Several pages of circles. What a waste of electrons.

Fat Cobra did.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
You haven't even proven they'd be susceptible in the first place!
and you're making a fallacy of ignorance.

^ Go away. Or shut up.