Omega Red vs the Warrior Three

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Ares arguably has less durability, still no sold Rogue. He doesn't have limitless stamina either. Or complete immunity to diseases. And he still no sold.

Again, I don't have to prove the Warriors' Three would no sell them. You have to prove they would work. says the man equating colossus to the warriors three. no shit, so being superior in every which way means crap when it comes to gods resisting mutant powers simply by virtue of them being godly

Rogue has failed to drain Colossus, and Rogue has successfully drained Colossus, and Rogue has failed to drain Ares, and Rogue has successfully drained Thor, And Rogue isn't Arkady. The only person Red has failed to drain is a disembodied psychic entity, which - unless the Warrior's Three became ambient disembodied consciousnesses when I wasn't looking - has not relevance to his effects on the Warriors Three.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Where can this be seen/shown? Didn't he die from a disease?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Idiot. I'm telling you that's what you're forcing us to prove, and if we don't prove otherwise, you assume that it would work. That, in itself, is a negative proof fallacy. We don't have to prove it must not work. That's not the burden of proof.

You didn't go to wikipedia and look it up, did you? Go away. Or shut up.

I'm not saying you have to prove it won't work on the gods. But I am saying there is equal burden on both sides (one side needs to prove it would work, one side needs to prove it won't work). if neither side submits any proof, there is no decision...and lack of decision is not a default win for the it won't work side.

Now in my opinion, there is more evidence that it will work (ie working on Colossus, gods being vulnerable to mortal harm) than it won't (their supposed different life force)

^ There's not an equal burden on both sides. LOOK UP NEGATIVE PROOF FALLACY. JEBUS.

I'm arguing it's complete speculation. You're arguing that it would work. There's a difference in what are positions are, hence, different burdens. If you're going to argue it's more probable than not, than you offer evidence. Not the absence of evidence and rest your laurels when we haven't completely disproven your argument.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
He died from the cure which he injected into him self. He was immune to the disease, in fact was the cure.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
He died from the cure which he injected into him self. He was immune to the disease, in fact was the cure.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ There's not an equal burden on both sides. LOOK UP NEGATIVE PROOF FALLACY. JEBUS. So is Omega Red. Colossus' physique > Jono's. And Asgardians aren't consistent when it comes to mutant powers in general.

Jono is disembodied psychic energy. The Warriors Three are not. How long do you need to stretch before reaching like that? Surprised you didn't pull anything.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Does it say somewhere in some issue that he's immune?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Jono is disembodied psychic energy. The Warriors Three are not. How long do you need to stretch before reaching like that? Surprised you didn't pull anything.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
LOOK UP NEGATIVE PROOF FALLACY. JEBUS.

You're applying it incorrectly, either deliberately or not.

Negative proof fallacy would be if srank said "You can't prove it won't work, therefore it WILL work"

that's not his reasoning for it working. he IS providing positive evidence in support of his case.

this isn't a case of negative proof fallacy.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Jono is disembodied psychic energy. The Warriors Three are not. How long do you need to stretch before reaching like that? Surprised you didn't pull anything.

Jono is human, The Warriors Three are not.

Guys, if you have some proof that the spores will work on The three of them, then post it please.

Saying "it worked on Colossus" isn't going to cut it, and I really don't want to have to close this thread.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Guys, if you have some proof that the spores will work on The three of them, then post it please.

Saying "it worked on Colossus" isn't going to cut it, and I really don't want to have to close this thread.

^ We're not trying to argue it would never work. We're pointing out that it's complete speculation! Christ.

Originally posted by Starscream M
I know what it is.

You're applying it incorrectly, either deliberately or not.

Negative proof fallacy would be if srank said "You can't prove it won't work, therefore it WILL work"

Originally posted by Starscream M
that's not his reasoning for it working. he IS providing positive evidence in support of his case.

this isn't a case of negative proof fallacy.

The only thing left is a negative proof fallacy. And obviously, that avenue keeps getting turned to over and over and over again.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
but saying it wont work becuase there gods, does cut it?

Did I say that? No, I didn't.

The burden is on the people saying it will work rather than the ones saying it doesn't.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Jono is human, The Warriors Three are not.

Jono can actually be exploded and reform due to his psionic energy state.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Did I say that? No, I didn't.

The burden is on the people saying it will work rather than the ones saying it doesn't.

Were not saying 100% it will work, because he has yet to face a god, how ever there very little reason it won't work. What is different about the warrior three then colossus that makes them immune to life drain?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
That's a no limit fallacy. Colossus' physique has nothing to do with it. Omega Red has drained people or not. Jono's physique < Colossus. That's a false distinction.
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its not that colossus has hard skin that makes OR's feat relevant.

Its the fact that colossus needs neither food nor oxygen...meaning he is actually even further removed from a mortal anatomy than a supposed 'god'.

Originally posted by Starscream M
you're missing the whole point.

its not that colossus has hard skin that makes OR's feat relevant.

Its the fact that colossus needs neither food nor oxygen...meaning he is actually even further removed from a mortal anatomy than a supposed 'god'.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
What is different about the warrior three then colossus that makes them immune to life drain?

so I guess I can say OR can't suck aunt May...cuz she has a shriveled old woman's life force and OR hasn't successfully affected any shriveled old woman.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ We're not trying to argue it would never work. We're pointing out that it's complete speculation!