Omega Red vs the Warrior Three

Started by srankmissingnin28 pages

Originally posted by -Pr-
Did I say that? No, I didn't.

The burden is on the people saying it will work rather than the ones saying it doesn't.

How is it working on Colossus not proof? Every attribute that would allow an Asgardian to resist Arkady's spoors Colossus has, only his are better, and it still didn't help him. How is that no proof? The argument that "Well they are gods... maybe they are different!" is as flimsy as rice paper. This assumption that someone they have an inate ability to resist Red's powers because of the arbitrary disticntion that they are "gods," is absurd.

Originally posted by King Castle
Jono is a psionic being more similar to X-man, Shadow king than any mutant or average asgardian. he subconciously uses the human husk which serves no purpose he doesnt eat, drink or have any vital organs whatsoever. he is not comparable to an Asgardian in anyway.

Jono can actually be exploded and reform due to his psionic energy state.

Doesn't change the fact that Jono is human. just an evolved one.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
We aren't arguing they're immune. You keep forcing the negative proof fallacy. Over and over again.

I not forcing anything. What are you argueing then, if not that they are immune?

^ That it's speculation either way. Sorry you didn't get the memo. I've only said this a dozen different times in ten different ways.

Originally posted by Starscream M
so I guess I can say OR can't suck aunt May...cuz she has a shriveled old woman's life force and OR hasn't successfully affected any shriveled old woman.
Go away. Or shut up. If I was trying to prove Omega Red's powers could never work on anybody unless he actually does it on-panel, you'd have a point.

I haven't. So you don't. All you have is your whining about why you're not allowed to force a negative proof fallacy.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Were not saying 100% it will work, because he has yet to face a god, how ever there very little reason it won't work. What is different about the warrior three then colossus that makes them immune to life drain?
Life drain was already done to Thor it failed it hurt him a bit but he was fine this was during the Thor lord of earth run asgardian it that proof enough???

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ That it's speculation either way. Sorry you didn't get the memo.

yea we get that it speculation.

As are numerous other debates.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Doesn't change the fact that Jono is human. just an evolved one.

He isn't human. He is disembodied psychic energy.

Originally posted by DarkOdin
Life drain was already done to Thor it failed it hurt him a bit but he was fine this was during the Thor lord of earth run asgardian it that proof enough???

No, becuase he also been drain by people like rogue.

I need a scan or issue and title.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
yea we get that it speculation.

As are numerous other debates.

You don't get that you haven't offered proof it'd work. So acting like its more probable than not, when godly natures no sell mutant powers randomly numerous times on-panel, without regard to physique, even life absorbing ones, doesn't cut it. It's just acting.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He isn't human. He is disembodied psychic energy.

Incorrect, he's a human whose power allows him to survive as psyhic energy.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Were not saying 100% it will work, because he has yet to face a god, how ever there very little reason it won't work. What is different about the warrior three then colossus that makes them immune to life drain?

I never said they were immune. You still have to prove that it would work though.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
How is it working on Colossus not proof? Every attribute that would allow an Asgardian to resist Arkady's spoors Colossus has, only his are better, and it still didn't help him. How is that no proof? The argument that "Well they are gods... maybe they are different!" is as flimsy as rice paper. This assumption that someone they have an inate ability to resist Red's powers because of the arbitrary disticntion that they are "gods," is absurd.

because Colossus isn't Asgardian. His powers don't work in the same way, and whatever else you want to bring to the table.

The point stands.

This thread is getting out of hand as it is.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
You don't get that you haven't offered proof it'd work. So acting like its more probable than not, when godly natures no sell mutant powers randomly numerous times on-panel, without regard to physique, even life absorbing ones, doesn't cut it. It's just acting.

No they no selled rogue who inconsistent and who mutant such as colossus also no selled.

Then we have Daken who powers work just fine on Ares, and who power is much more akin to omega red becuase it also phermone based.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Incorrect, he's a human whose power allows him to survive as psyhic energy.

You don't need to be a biology major to see the distinction between an ambient psychic energy with a consciousness, and human being. He isn't human. He was human. He isn't anymore.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I never said they were immune. You still have to prove that it would work though.


There zero way to get absolute prove until he fights a god and he dead now so that doubtful.

However what makes warrior 3 different from colossus that makes them immune.

If Daken powers work effortlessly on Ares, and they are also pheramone based, seems to suggest Omega reds would as well.

Originally posted by -Pr-
because Colossus isn't Asgardian. His powers don't work in the same way, and whatever else you want to bring to the table.

The point stands.

I know, they work better. Colossus requires no food. Asgardians do. He requires no sleep. Asgardians do. He requires no air. Asgardians do. He doesn't require periodic digestion of the Golden Apple to sustain his longevity. Asgardians do. He has limitless stamina and energy. Asgardias don't.

But I forgot, none of that matters because they are "gods".

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
You don't need to be a biology major to see the distinction between an ambient psychic energy with a consciousness, and human being. He isn't human. He was human. He isn't anymore.

He was born human and developed a mutant power that let's him survive as psychic energy. his base is still human.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
No they no selled rogue who inconsistent and who mutant such as colossus also no selled.

Then we have Daken who powers work just fine on Ares, and who power is much more akin to omega red becuase it also phermone based.

Colossus has been absorbed, multiple times. You trying to invoke PIS in that regard would be like me showing Fandral getting killed by death spores ten times and me arguing the one time they didn't work should control. Irony.

And Thor has no sold Corruptor's pheremones, which are more potent. You want to make this about godly natures no-selling mutant powers in general randomly, or about godly natures no-selling pheremones randomly? Either way is still a negative proof fallacy.

No his base is not human, he is pure energy. His body is a shell projection, it not real.

the warrior three is not thor

what thor has fended off does not prove that the warrior three would as well

yes, in the end, its all speculation from both sides.

Originally posted by Silent Master
He was born human and developed a mutant power that let's him survive as psychic energy. his base is still human.

He isn't base line human. He is psychic energy. It's a pretty cut and dry distinction.