Omega Red vs the Warrior Three

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He tried to eat Jono's bone marrow... but he didn't have any... because he wasn't alive... and that's why unlike all his other victim's Jono could still use his powers will Emplate was feeding...

Originally posted by zopzop
If he has them in his coils and lifts them off the ground, WTH are they gonna grab on too?

Like this :

He can easily lift them off the ground and hold them in the air, his base strength is 10 tons, aside from Fatso, the other two weigh about 600 or so pounds. It wouldn't even strain him. If Colossus couldn't break free, NONE of them are. Then he crushes them to death or forces the tentacles down their throat ripping it apart.

Wolverine is only one person with human level strength and the spores actually work on him, that is a far cry from 3 people that have substantial superhuman strength who the spores might not work very well again(if at all).

Where is the proof that he'd be able to even wrap one of the up while fending off the other two?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Wolverine is only one person with human level strength and the spores actually work on him, that is a far cry from 3 people that have substantial superhuman strength who the spores might not work very well again(if at all).

Where is the proof that he'd be able to even wrap one of the up while fending off the other two?

Colossus couldn't break out of his grip and he's FAR superior to any of the W3 physically. Hogun and Fandrel are only about 6ft tall each and weigh about 600lbs. He can easily wrap a tentacle around each one, suspend them off the ground and crush them to death.

His damage soak and healing factor and the slowness of Tub of Lard will allow him to evade Fatso while crushing the life out of the other two.

Again all this assumes the spores/life suck don't work at all.

roughhouse is a half frost giant or something, not sure if they've fought but he'd be the closest thing to the warriors three in the "wolverine universe"

Originally posted by zopzop
Colossus couldn't break out of his grip and he's FAR superior to any of the W3 physically. Hogun and Fandrel are only about 6ft tall each and weigh about 600lbs. He can easily wrap a tentacle around each one, suspend them off the ground and crush them to death.

His damage soak and healing factor and the slowness of Tub of Lard will allow him to evade Fatso while crushing the life out of the other two.

Again all this assumes the spores/life suck don't work at all.

Wasn't Colossus also effected by the spores and he didn't have two people with superhuman strength providing a distraction by beating OR over the head with a mace or stabbing him with a sword.

Originally posted by zopzop
Colossus couldn't break out of his grip and he's FAR superior to any of the W3 physically. Hogun and Fandrel are only about 6ft tall each and weigh about 600lbs. He can easily wrap a tentacle around each one, suspend them off the ground and crush them to death.

His damage soak and healing factor and the slowness of Tub of Lard will allow him to evade Fatso while crushing the life out of the other two.

Again all this assumes the spores/life suck don't work at all.

silent Master

In the X-man comic Threnody fought Madelyn Pryor in a cemetery and told Madelyn she wasnt truly alive and Threnody's power is to draw out and use the last moments of a person's life energy.

which infuriated Madelyn causing her to kill threnody.

the bottom line if someone who can sense life energy and death as well as reanimate the dead and manipulate the life energy that a person leaves when they die, can feel their thoughts, and draw out their last moments of life says you arent alive it should be taken with some validity.

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Originally posted by Silent Master
Wasn't Colossus also effected by the spores and he didn't have two people with superhuman strength providing a distraction by beating OR over the head with a mace or stabbing him with a sword.

Never the phermones. Death factor via tentacles.

Originally posted by King Castle
silent Master

In the X-man comic Threnody fought Madelyn Pryor in a cemetery and told Madelyn she wasnt truly alive and Threnody's power is to draw out and use the last moments of a person's life energy.

which infuriated Madelyn causing her to kill threnody.

the bottom line if someone who can sense life energy and death as well as reanimate the dead and manipulate the life energy that a person leaves when they die, can feel their thoughts, and draw out their last moments of life says you arent alive it should be taken with some validity.

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Madelyn was created by X-man, she's was never truly alive, that is a completely different set of circumstances from Jono, he was alive and just evolved to another form.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Madelyn was created by X-man, she's was never truly alive, that is a completely different set of circumstances from Jono, he was alive and just evolved to another form.

@ Dumbgo

Emplate feeds from his hands and the mouth that sucks out the blood marrow most often the victim cannot fight the process.. Emplate wanted jonothan b/c he could see the psionic energy and it was self regenerating and would serve as a better victim since he lost Penance.

but he sucks in Bone Marrow and is also a psionic vampire...

in the GenX he talks about how much he enjoys sucking the bone marrow from his victims.

^ That doesn't prove that Jono lacked bone marrow. Which is still a red herring. Fact is, he was sucking on Chamber and being empowered by his life force.

So prove Chamber's form has nothing to do with life force.

Madeyln never had a life force, she was created out of X-man's pyschic energy, Jono had life-force at the time he evolved into energy. Therefore you have to prove that the act of evolving into energy destroys a person's life-force.

he draws out the biological requirement not their life force, he is also a psionic vamp.. psionic energy is not synomous with "life force" it never has bn...

even than Emplate failed on Jono since he blasted him off him.. iirc. i have to pull my GenX 1-3 to verify which i am positive i am.

^ Show me where he is a "psionic" vampire. I don't care to entertain your false distinction that living psionic energy has nothing to do with life force. Frankly, I think that argument is retarded. I'm not going to dignify it. Emplate sucked Jono's life force.

And Emplate was empowered by sucking his life force. You can read Generation X #1 all you want. I remember that chrome cover and its contents like the back of my hand. Lack of bone marrow was never posited in that comic to explain anything. It was implied that Jono was just that powerful. Fact is, Gayle later on, becoming an Emplate sucked him also.

Jono's also been knocked unconscious. So this whole "he has no semblance of biological functions" is actually quite false. And during M-Day, he was depowered. All his psionic energy went away, but he still existed. He was still alive. He had to be put on life support of course since he had a gaping hole in his chest. If he was just a pure psionic entity, he probably would have disappeared. He didn't. Accordingly, he wasn't a pure psionic form. He had a body. He would even reconstitute it.

So prove Jono's form has nothing remotely similar to life force in his form.

hmmm.. just opened it. the book shows chamber getting jumped by Emplate who materialized on top of jono ready to feed monologues how he enjoys sucking the genetic stuff from a person bones as he latches onto jono's face with his hand.

Emplate is immediately attacked by sean and the team. Emplate absorbs the sonic blast and redirects it at sean.

than he looks at sean and tells him he can also siphon and absorb energy in this case Jono and Sean's power which he combined and blasted back which Sync blocks with his body syncing up to emplate absorbing Sean's sonic blast and Chamber's psionic blast same as emplate.

Jono was taken by surprise and only took 2 pages due to the action pact art before he reacted and blasted emplate off him.. Emplate shocked said no one has ever prevented his feeding..

take it as you want but emplate was an energy vampire as well as a genetic bone marrow one, it never stated he sucked out life force. it was actually explicitly clear by emplate and later his sister that his powers extend from blood organic material which he absorbs into himself taking on the powers of the genetic host as well as an energy vampire.

emplates powers was even shown to be psionic in nature with how he viewed people able to see their psionic energy aura and read their abilities and even able to read them..

Originally posted by King Castle
emplates powers was even shown to be psionic in nature with how he viewed people able to see their psionic energy aura and read their abilities and even able to read them..

Scan the entire encounter in that airport.

EDIT: Never mind. I'll scan it. Here Emplate is looking at mutant signatures, not psionic energies:

And here is Emplate actually enjoying sucking on Jono's genetic stuff from his bones before being interrupted:

so their mutant signature gives him their names and allows them to know who they are? i am aware he can see their genetic aura but it is more and it's psionic in nature

he stated he absorbed Jono's energy not Bone Marrow, later again as they reanalyzed the battle Sean, Emma and M stated that he absorbed Jono's energy same as he did sean.. (again not bone Marrow).

aside from that the writer also made it clear that emplates inability to read M during battle was psionic in nature as Emma stated that M was a blank and does not show up on psionic scans in issue #2.

there is no way to argue this...facepalm2

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
False. He read their mutant signatures, not their psionic energies. You're forcing a false distinction. I'd be disappointed if I didn't wholly predict this. You're preaching to the choir. I know Generation X.

Scan the entire encounter in that airport.

And here is Emplate actually enjoying sucking on Jono's genetic stuff from his bones before being interrupted:

the 1st statement he is saying it as he jumps on him not as point of fact as he is about to feed once he begins he changes the comment is more specific to what he actually did.

^ Emplate did not state he could only absorb his energies because he was purely energy. NOWHERE, did Emplate state that Jono had no biology to siphon from. In fact, he relished Jono for bing so powerful a mutant. Not because he relished how powerful an energy being he was. He has siphoned energy from characters along with their biology. He can siphon both simultaneously, which is EXACTLY what he was doing with Jono. So stop trying to justify your shattered false distinction. What ended up happening afterwards, was Jono shot out his power at Emplate loosening his grip. Emplate was surprised by the energy discharge because he was preoccupied with feeding on Jono's biology. That's what happened.

Jono having no semblance of biology is false. As stated before, he's been knocked unconscious. When he was completely depowered, he didn't disintegrate by virtue of being a purely mutant psionic entity, he just lost the ability to sustain his psionic energies and was left with a ravaged body.

So prove Jono's form has nothing remotely similar to life force in his form.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Emplate did not state he could only absorb his energies. NOWHERE, did Emplate state that Jono had no biology to siphon from. In fact, he relished Jono for bing so powerful a mutant. Not because he relished how powerful an energy being he was.

Jono having no semblance of biology is false. As stated before, he's been knocked unconscious. When he was completely depowered, he didn't disintegrate by virtue of being a purely mutant psionic entity, he just lost the ability to sustain his psionic energies and was left with a ravaged body.

he even blow up and had his psionic energy spread out and he simply reminded himself that he was already a psionic being and simply had to view himself as a phsyical being as he remade himself...

the whole losing his power i cant recall but i do remember it happening. iirc it had to do with house of M for the depowerment and him being hooked up to machines but i find that be questionable circumstances..

anyways..

i have to go for now, nice talking to you without the constant name calling and insult. bye.