Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Seriously, just because Omega Red tooled Wolverine with a certain ability doesn't mean he tools everybody with that ability, which, for some a$$-backwards reason, has no limits simply because it worked on Wolverine.That's what it comes down to. Waste of a thread. Irony.
What it means is that his ability will have a greater effect on someone with less stamina/longevity/life force than Wolverine or Colossus... which is a category the Warriors Three fall into.
Being Asgardian will have about as much difference as being an Kree or an Atlantean or an Inhuman. It is an completely arbitrary distinction of little relevance. They wouldn't be resistant because they are Asgardian, they would be resistant because Asgardians happen to have increased stamina and longevity... but Omega Red's powers have worked on characters with the same advantages only to a greater extent. So if it isn't their stamina or their longevity, what is it that allows for them to be resistant? The name Asgardian? The fact that name is different is enough for you to arbitrarily afford them resistances, even though none of their attributes of physical qualities allow for the existence of such a resistance?
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
-Pr- had it right:
No he isn't. People make this argument all the time, just because its not the exact same person doesn't mean it can't work on W3. The point is that they are comparable.
The problem here is there is hypocrisy whenever this argument comes up. Hell you've argued that SS can drain Superman because hes done it on Gladiator. According to your logic it's an illogical argument. It isn't because Gladiator has a similar enough powerset to Superman to make a comparison.
People make comparisons all the time, this would make 90% of arguments null and void. If you can't make a direct comparison you have to try and make a comparison with somebody who has similar enough characteristics.
^ What you guys are doing is nitpicking his argument. The idea he could drain Odin is absurd but everything else he said was correct.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
What it means is that his ability will have a greater effect on someone with less stamina/longevity/life force than Wolverine or Colossus... which is a category the Warriors Three fall into.Being Asgardian will have about as much difference as being an Kree or an Atlantean or an Inhuman. It is an completely arbitrary distinction of little relevance. They wouldn't be resistant because they are Asgardian, they would be resistant because Asgardians happen to have increased stamina and longevity... but Omega Red's powers have worked on characters with the same advantages only to a greater extent. So if it isn't their stamina or their longevity, what is it that allows for them to be resistant? The name Asgardian? The fact that name is different is enough for you to arbitrarily afford them resistances, even though none of their attributes of physical qualities allow for the existence of such a resistance?
Originally posted by srankmissingninThis is Super Saiyan x4 levels of retard.
Why would being more powerful make his life force harder to drain? There as never been any stated or implied correlation between the two... we should just assume one exists? Why? Because Odin is like totally strong?
Nothing personal. But your argument is absolutely retarded. I'm not dignifying this nonsense anymore. This thread was doomed from the start.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
This is Super Saiyan x4 levels of retard.Nothing personal. But your argument is absolutely retarded. I'm not dignifying this nonsense anymore. This thread was doomed from the start.
Omega Red touches someone and their strength and life force gets added to his own. That's his power. What about being more powerful grants a character an inherent resistance to this power? The stronger the character, the stronger Red becomes when draining them... there has never been any suggestion that he could OD on top much life force, or that being more powerful makes a character more difficult to drain.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Omega Red touches someone and their strength and life force gets added to his own. That's his power. What about being more powerful grants a character an inherent resistance to this power? The stronger the character, the stronger Red becomes when draining them... there has never been any suggestion that he could OD on top much life force, or that being more powerful makes a character more difficult to drain.
Originally posted by Deadline
You're not getting the point being [b]different doesn't make you exempt from getting your life drained. I already gave a list of things they can die from, being different doesn't stop that from happening. Hell I'm not entirely sure but I think mutants are immune to the Aids virus, I also think Collosus is immune to diesease in armour form.Hell Ares was affected by Dakens pheremones, technically that shouldn't have worked either.[/b]
Colossus' immunity isn't the same type as the Asgardians, if he's immune in metal form it's because he's metal and thus the virus has nothing to affect.
Like what?
From what I hear, he is was doing things like cutting them open and removing organs.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Lulz at Omega Red taking the Odin Force.
Red doesn't jack powers, he steels life force and the Odin Force != Life Force. They are two distinctive energies. Odin, being alive before his brothers were killed and taking their powers as the Odin-Force, has a Life Force separate from the Odin Force. Could he use the Odin-Force to prevent Red from draining him? Yes, same as anyone with telepathy could do the same thing, but if Odin let Red try and drain him, he isn't immunity simply by nature of being powerful.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Red doesn't jack powers, he steels life force and the Odin Force != Life Force. They are two distinctive energies. Odin, being alive before his brothers were killed and taking their powers as the Odin-Force, has a Life Force separate from the Odin Force. Could he use the Odin-Force to prevent Red from draining him? Yes, same as anyone with telepathy could do the same thing, but if Odin [b]let Red try and drain him, he isn't immunity simply by nature of being powerful. [/B]
IIRC Thor has commented that his lifeforce is something called the "God Power", which he channels into his Godblasts. Pretty sure the Odin Force is just Odin's own spin on the God Power.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Does he now?IIRC Thor has commented that his lifeforce is something called the "God Power", which he channels into his Godblasts. Pretty sure the Odin Force is just Odin's own spin on the God Power.
Unless there has been a retcon The Odin Force is the merged powers of Vili and Ve and remained after Sutur killed them, which became the Odin Force.
Originally posted by Omega VisionWhatever... Thor's lifeforce channeled into Mjolnir actually shattered it once:
Does he now?IIRC Thor has commented that his lifeforce is something called the "God Power", which he channels into his Godblasts. Pretty sure the Odin Force is just Odin's own spin on the God Power.
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Mjolnir/ThorMjolnir139-Godblast389.jpg
But Omega Red deals with it just fine. It worked on Wolverine and Colossus after all.
Omega Red's absorption capabilities > Mjolnir's absorption capabilities. So why wouldn't Omega Red pwn Odin, or Doomsday, or Darkseid? Pfft.
Have I reached Super Saiyan x4 levels of retard, yet? Am I doing it right?
