Omega Red vs the Warrior Three

Started by srankmissingnin28 pages

Originally posted by Parmaniac
The more powerful characters get the more proof has to be there that they can be affected imo, Red isn't anywhere near that avarage level, would you say Gorgons stone stare works on Thanos or Odin? Or Dakens pheromones would work on them?

Sometimes people that can absorb just get overloaded and shit and unless Red displays the ability to drain someone on THAT or at least near that level I'm not byung he could do so cause it never failed on compared weaklings.

That's like saying Brick A can punch out WWH, Kurse and Mangog judging by the fact that he already effortlessly knocked out Thing and Colossus. The distance between these guys is WAY to much imo.

I think they would work on the warriors three though.

It's theoretically possible he could peak / overload like Maverick, Bishop or Shaw, but unlike those it has never been hinted that is an problem or possibility for Red. Also he doesn't absorbs mechanical energy, he absorbs life force. Unless those characters can prevent him from absorbing their life force in the first place there is nothing to suggest he would have problem amping himself with it.

Originally posted by King Castle
you are reminding me of Genis Vell when he asked that same question to thor and his croonies. are you genis?
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[b]Captain Marvel Vol. 4 #7
Owns Heimdall.
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[Captain Marvel Vol. 4 #7
vs Asgardians
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Captain Marvel Vol. 4 #7
vs King Thor
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Captain Marvel Vol. 4 #8
vs. Carries Sturm (Storm Giant)
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Captain Marvel Vol. 4 #8
Kills Drang (Storm Giant).
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it seems i was right based on those scans. worship appears to be the key. questioning the 'godhood' of the warriors is fair i think. based on what was shown in the scans, it's hard to actually call them gods at all.

that in no way steps on jake's argument though. which i agree with. impossible, beyond speculation, to say just how effective the spores would be against them. as i said, i think they would work, but less effectively. effectively enough to let OR get the win? shrug

good and mostly cordial discussion though. 🙂

Originally posted by King Castle
Hercules was raised into Olympus and had his mortal shade burned away and send to Hades while the remaining immortal spirit was allowed to live in Olympus. 😮‍💨

The mortal part of him (on his mother Acleme side) went to Hades yes but in mythos he is stated as the only hero to become a full fledged God on his demise, he was even given a Goddess as a wife.

The characterization in that Captain Marvel issue was just insulting.

I skimmed this page and Asgardian uniqueness seems to be in question.

They are Gods and their life force I'd wager is beyond that of Colossus or Wolverine. Their power was quite clear even to Doom recently:

Doom isn't the only one experimenting on Asgardians for secrets of immortality. In the new Captain America mini, they're going to use Thor's blood to reverse engineer eternal life/immortality. There's plenty of shit like that.

It's true, they need the consumption of the Golden Apple or they could die after a few thousand years but they are still above mortals. Maybe not in physical manifestation of power but you get the idea. You just rarely get to see Asgardians showing off because it's Thor with all of the feats.

Either way, this thread is going to come down to the spores.

Originally posted by BigSid
The mortal part of him (on his mother Acleme side) went to Hades yes but in mythos he is stated as the only hero to become a full fledged God on his demise, he was even given a Goddess as a wife.

i'm not sure he was actually called a 'god' though, was he? pretty sure he was just made immortal and allowed to live in olympus. could be wrong though. been a while since i studied up on my greek mythology.... 🙂

TBH I'm suprsied noone uploaded a scan of Wolverine: The best there is 04.

Originally posted by leonidas
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it seems i was right based on those scans. worship appears to be the key. questioning the 'godhood' of the warriors is fair i think. based on what was shown in the scans, it's hard to actually call them gods at all.

that in no way steps on jake's argument though. which i agree with. impossible, beyond speculation, to say just how effective the spores would be against them. as i said, i think they would work, but less effectively. effectively enough to let OR get the win? shrug

good and mostly cordial discussion though. 🙂

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I can live with this.

I just can't see how you can automatically assume either end of the spectrum, in either case.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
At the end of the day, most of can agree on the following: Being Asgardian/immortal/gods/whatever, the Warriors Three posses life force which is altogether different and more superior/potent than that of a mortal. I don't think that's disputable. As such, questioning how strong the deathspores would effect them is entirely reasonable and furthermore logical if the deathspores directly siphon life force.

To assume that Red wins 10/10 based on Colossus and Logan is just...ridiculous.

You can question the effects of the death-spores all you'd like, but the effect of the death-spores will fall somewhere in between A) everyone within his radius being completely incinerated like what happens to human fodder, or B) being incapacitated in seconds like Wolverine and Colossus. There is lots of room in the gab between the two... but nothing that affords them a single win.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
So what's the problem here?

I skimmed this page and Asgardian uniqueness seems to be in question.

They are Gods and their life force I'd wager is beyond that of Colossus or Wolverine. Their power was quite clear even to Doom recently:

Doom isn't the only one experimenting on Asgardians for secrets of immortality. In the new Captain America mini, they're going to use Thor's blood to reverse engineer eternal life/immortality. There's plenty of shit like that.

It's true, they need the consumption of the Golden Apple or they could die after a few thousand years but they are still Gods. You just rarely get to see Asgardians showing off because it's Thor with all of the feats.

Either way, this thread is going to come down to the spores.

Nice scans. Who wins? Do you think the 3 can hang with the spores?

Originally posted by Parmaniac
TBH I'm suprsied noone uploaded a scan of Wolverine: The best there is 04.

what would that show? 😕

Originally posted by leonidas
what would that show? 😕
Wolverine's HF Immortality evolution.

His life force was drained 11 times in a row and he was fine moments later.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
The Warriors are gods as stated by narrative, themselves, Thor, Odin, etc. And Asgardian by birth or not, Hogun is functionally one now. The Asgardians possess the capability to give their gifts to mere mortals, which they've done time and time again in comics.

I agree they have been, I was supporting Leonidas's question as valid but if we take them as Gods, they still function it seems like normal humans with the need to eat, sleep and breathe, all be it on levels far above a mere mortal.

So on that basis I do think the spores could have an effect, I would question the "in seconds" thing very strongly though.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
You can question the effects of the death-spores all you'd like, but the effect of the death-spores will fall somewhere in between A) everyone within his radius being completely incinerated like what happens to human fodder, or B) being incapacitated in seconds like Wolverine and Colossus. There is lots of room in the gab between the two... but nothing that affords them a single win.

So, The LT with the HOTU would be incapacitated in seconds?

Originally posted by BigSid
I agree they have been, I was supporting Leonidas's question

i like the new guy. 😄

So on that basis I do think the spores could have an effect, I would question the "in seconds" thing very strongly though.

yep. 👆

question is how were the Asgardians subdued simply magic or drugs?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
It's theoretically possible he could peak / overload like Maverick, Bishop or Shaw, but unlike those it has never been hinted that is an problem or possibility for Red. Also he doesn't absorbs mechanical energy, he absorbs life force. Unless those characters can prevent him from absorbing their life force in the first place there is nothing to suggest he would have problem amping himself with it.

So he has to have a stated limit to have a limit?

No limits fallacy much?

Black Alice drained the Spectre once, before that though no one in their right mind would have suggested she'd be able to do it based on siphoning Heralds and such.

So why are you ascribing OR the ability to drain beings way higher than those he's actually shown to be able to drain?

Originally posted by Silent Master
So, The LT with the HOTU would be incapacitated in seconds?

LT is an abstract being and the HOTU makes you holder omnipotent... what do you think?

Originally posted by Silent Master
So, The LT with the HOTU would be incapacitated in seconds?
that question is completely irrelevant having no place here especially when none of the opponents are close to those power levels that the comparison is being made with.

be serious.

Originally posted by leonidas
i'm not sure he was actually called a 'god' though, was he? pretty sure he was just made immortal and allowed to live in olympus. could be wrong though. been a while since i studied up on my greek mythology.... 🙂

There was a fair sized cult in Roman times that worshiped Hercules as a God as he best fit the Roman idea of what a hero should be.

It really all depends on when what you read was written though originally the view was of how badly he managed his obvious gifts but over time opinion shifted.

Originally posted by BigSid
There was a fair sized cult in Roman times that worshiped Hercules as a God as he best fit the Roman idea of what a hero should be.

It really all depends on what you read was written though originally the view was of how badly he managed his obvious gifts but over time opinion shifted.


There was also a cult for Julius Cesar and a lot of the Roman Emperors...

...just saying. 😛