Originally posted by Omega Vision
So he has to have a stated limit to have a limit?No limits fallacy much?
Black Alice drained the Spectre once, before that though no one in their right mind would have suggested she'd be able to do it based on siphoning Heralds and such.
So why are you ascribing OR the ability to drain beings way higher than those he's actually shown to be able to drain?
Jacking powers and abilities of magical beings is completely different than Red's powers. Red is a battery, when he makes contact with another battery, he charges up. That's his power.
Originally posted by Prep-Man
Nice scans. Who wins? Do you think the 3 can hang with the spores?
Not sure. The spores have taken down some pretty tough customers and I've never seen the Warrior's Three withstand such an attack but at the same time, they drain the life force of his victims. As such, I think there Godly/immortal nature casts enough doubt for an argument to be made possible.
If this was someone like say...Thor, I'd be pretty comfortable in saying he could withstand the attacks as he has encountered somewhat similar tactics and resisted. Not to mention that Thor's Godly Essence is ridiculously tough. When you reach that level, it'd be up to the pro Omega Red side to provide evidence of it working on Thor. Let's not even get started on beings like Odin etc.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Jacking powers and abilities of magical beings is completely different than Red's powers. Red is a battery, when he makes contact with another battery, he charges up. That's his power.
That doesn't mean that before her showing in DOV anyone would have been justified based on her feats to say she'd be able to drain the Spectre.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Yeah, and when Black Alice makes contact with a magical being she takes the power. That's her power.That doesn't mean that before her showing in DOV anyone would have been justified based on her feats to say she'd be able to drain the Spectre.
The Spectre is a one of the most powerful magical entities in the DC U. You could make the assumption that he could use his powers to no sell Alice's abilities and have a leg to stand on. It's his powers that would be responsible for these... not some innate ability. In the case of Red you are arbitrarily assuming they no sell Red merely by being being powerful... it doesn't make any sense. Omega Red drains life force, Darkseid would need to prevent that from happening for Omega Red not to be able to do that.... and there isn't to suggest he could.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The Spectre is a one of the most powerful magical entities in the DC U. You could make the assumption that he could use his powers to no sell Alice's abilities and have a leg to stand on. It's his powers that would be responsible for these... not some innate ability. In the case of Red you are arbitrarily assuming they no sell Red merely by being being powerful... it doesn't make any sense. Omega Red drains life force, Darkseid would need to prevent that from happening for Omega Red not to be able to do that.... and there isn't to suggest he could.
Who has OR drained that's even close to Darkseid in power? Or Hell, who has he drained that has a physiology anything like Darkseid?
There were two occasions that Darkseid has been drained/siphoned. On one occasion it was using advanced New God tech, and even after Kalibak spent a long time siphoning him off and giving himself the power he discovered DS was still more than powerful enough to **** up Kalibak, amp or no.
The other time was when Desaad tried to take his Omega Force (for that IS his life force) and ended up getting pwned by the darkness of the OE. And that was again with a New God artifact, Highfather's Wonder Staff, an artifact with a special connection to the Source.
