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@ Slash KMC and truejedi

Why is there ANY DOUBT WHATSOEVER as to the identity of the Chosen One? George Lucas said that Anakin is the Chosen One on the RotS DVD commentary and here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgBpoiC8qGA ***k people!!

All well and good. For how long did Lucas say that the Prophecy would remain fulfilled?

And it's already been established by Lucas that bringing balance to the Force involves doing away with the Sith (i.e. destroying them). Nothing else except Lucas' word matters regarding this so called debate.

Doing away with the Sith means just that; putting an end to the Sith. Makes ZERO sense to place so much importance on this prophecy only to have the Sith reborn in short order.

Originally posted by truejedi
I'm still not positive it won't be LUKE who will turn out to be the chosen one and bring balance to the force.

DP is your argument thus:

1. Anakin is the chosen one. (Fair assumption)

2. The chosen one is to bring balance to the force. (granted, that's the prophecy)

3. "Bringing balance to the force" Means destroying the Sith? (The Jedi THOUGHT it meant that, but the Republic Jedi were wrong about a GREAT MANY things.)

It is a good THEORY but unprovable.

Please give us the source of the interpretation of the prophecy, because when I watched the movie, all I got was the JEDI'S interpretation of it. Sidious obviously didn't agree it meant that Anakin was going to destroy the sith, or he wouldn't have chosen him as an apprentice.

1. Not an assumption - George Lucas said it.

2. Correct.

3. They were not wrong about this - George Lucas said so. Read the quote fom earlier.

Quit trying to argue with what the creator of SW said. That's ***king ridiculous!!

now on the cover of DE, if I am correct, it says "The Sith have returned." or something like that.

So...... Anakin destroyed the Sith, fulfilling the prophecy, making Lucas happy.

AND THEN...

Sidious came back.

There is no contradiction that I can see.

Short-lived prophecy is all.

Then the ENTIRE prophecy is ABSOLUTELY POINTLESS if the Sith just reemerge again in a relatively short time. Hmmm, gee, which makes more sense? The post RotJ material is non-canon, or everything that George Lucas created and tied in with the prophecy of the Chosen One was an absolute waste of time. I'd go with the latter, NOT the former.

Exactly, we have always said the prophecy was pointless and poor writing. Finally you see why.

You are trying to say the entire EU is pointless. What's the difference? Either way something is going to be pointless.

we have always said that the Sith continuing to resurface (latest on Korriban..) was stupid and made the prophecy pointless.

But didn't make it non-canon.

Like jar-jar: Stupid and pointless, but definitly canon.

❌ The destruction of the sith means just that - they are destroyed.

but they weren't. How do you deal with that? Sith have popped up 5 times since ROTJ. So if they are destroyed, how is that possible? Kinda blows the mind, doesn't it? Destroyed, but... NOT DESTROYED. Twilight zone man.

Makes FAR more sense to me for the post RotJ material to be non-canon than for the entire saga as it related to GL's creativity to be rendered absolutely meaningless.

Originally posted by truejedi
but they weren't. How do you deal with that? Sith have popped up 5 times since ROTJ. So if they are destroyed, how is that possible? Kinda blows the mind, doesn't it? Destroyed, but... NOT DESTROYED. Twilight zone man.

Non-issue when considering the post RotJ material invalid as it relates to GL's universe.

oh, ok. You are seriously trying to cancel the EU. Well, GL can have his universe. You are in the EU forum. The OT forum is elsewhere.

Originally posted by truejedi
oh, ok. You are seriously trying to cancel the EU. Well, GL can have his universe. You are in the EU forum. The OT forum is elsewhere.

EU = not just post RotJ material, but Old Republic material and PT material as well. See TJ, this is the Star Wars Literature AND Expanded Universe forum. So I'm right where I need to be.

Originally posted by Jinsoku Takai
EU = not just post RotJ material, but Old Republic material and PT material as well. So I'm right where I need to be.

Yeah, we're not going to do that.

As it contradicts the movies and prophecy - it should not be considered canon. I realize I don't have the authority to dictate what is and isn't canon. However I am able to make intelligent and logical observations and conclusions.

Moreover, I'm not asking anyone of you to omit said material. I'm simply making an observation which I believe to be correct.

It doesn't contradict the prophecy. Just because the prophecy doesn't make sense, doesn't mean there is a contradiction.

I cannot believe you are asking for common sense from star wars. Maul froze and let Kenobi cut him in half. The prophecy didn't last very long.

Star Wars has plot problems. It doesn't make it a contradiction, no matter HOW many times you repeat the same thing. Quality, not quantity.

Originally posted by Jinsoku Takai
As it contradicts the movies and prophecy - it should not be considered canon. I realize I don't have the authority to dictate what is and isn't canon. However I am able to make intelligent and logical observations and conclusions.

Moreover, I'm not asking anyone of you to omit said material. I'm simply making an observation which I believe to be correct.

Originally posted by Jinsoku Takai
@ Slash KMC and truejedi

Why is there ANY DOUBT WHATSOEVER as to the identity of the Chosen One? George Lucas said that Anakin is the Chosen One on the RotS DVD commentary and here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgBpoiC8qGA ***k people!!

Originally posted by Slash_KMC
Perhaps DP can't prove it, but can you prove it while using [b]in-universe sources?
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In-universe source means somewhere in the movies, cartoons, novels or comics. You have failed me.

Also, like the Canadian said, what is the time frame for the Prophecy. Anakin did bring balance to the Force at that moment, but for how long?