Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
wow.. just wow.. this thread is certainly entertaining, however not as entertaining as a 500 page martial arts novel or a 1000 page sci fi novel.. lolnow, rob is correct right here...
Snape will be fried burnt toast
✅ His smoking cadaver wisping its dead-wizard aroma into the night.
Aunt Beru and Uncle Owen will look like people who had stayed in a sunbed 5 mins too long, by comparison...
Originally posted by RobtardYeah, what I just said is logic aplenty. "precog cancels out precog" haermm
Logic, dude, there's that.
Na, Jedi/Sith reaction-time > than normal human wizard.Only in saber combat. NOT while casting force attacks. I've proven this time and time again, yet you choose to ignore it.
Yes, I agree; you're the one that's constantly trying to twist and gimp this to fit your argument.LOL I figured you, of all people, would see what I was doing there.
Originally posted by RobtardLike he did in the vid where Yoda force pushed his ass?
Yes, because Sidious will just sit there the whole time and let this happen cos he's a a stupid lummox. Really, dude?
1) Snape is not likely to "apparate" before he's fried first.Nah, apparition is instant, force lightning is not. Snape'll be long gone before Sidious gets an attack off.
2) Should he, Sidious will sense where he's going to appear before he appears and he will be ready.Same way he sensed Yodas force push, yeah?
Lighting will be ready to greet Snape upon arrival. Of course you'll cry and say "lightning can't travel 1k feet!", so all Sidious need do is duck around and ally and then it's a game of cat and mouse in the streets of London, except Sidious can sense with the Force (remember when Anakin sensed "everything" in Padme's room), has precognition and super reaction-time and reflexes. Sidious is clearly the cat here.Let's see.....Snape appatrates away, casts Fiendfyre, let's it pursue Sidious. As Sidious is busy fending it off, Snape death spells him.
Simple.
Actually, apparate is NOT instant
I just got home from watching Deathly Hallows, a death eater throws a knife at Dobby (im guessing from about 15 feet, it was across teh room) and it gets to him in time to be apparated with him
Apparating is therefore NOT instant, especially since, with NO magic, a knife could make it across the room and still get apparated
It is also shown as NOT being instant as when Harry and Hermione apparate, the sun is in a different spot than from where they apparated from, showing the passage of time
So what stops Sidious from using the force to propel his lightsaber into Snape right as he apparates, as happened with Dobby, who STILL got hit with the knife, after apparating
Originally posted by Pwned
Actually, apparate is NOT instantI just got home from watching Deathly Hallows, a death eater throws a knife at Dobby (im guessing from about 15 feet, it was across teh room) and it gets to him in time to be apparated with him
Apparating is therefore NOT instant, especially since, with NO magic, a knife could make it across the room and still get apparated
It is also shown as NOT being instant as when Harry and Hermione apparate, the sun is in a different spot than from where they apparated from, showing the passage of timeSo what stops Sidious from using the force to propel his lightsaber into Snape right as he apparates, as happened with Dobby, who STILL got hit with the knife, after apparating
High end feats are what we use here. High end feats for apparition is instantaneous. Also, Dobby was side-along apparating with 4 others, right?
Pay attention, FF to :17.
See? Instantaneous.
Not that it matters. Fight starts, Snape whispers "confundo", Sidious forgets where he is and what he is doing there. Snape death spells him.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Yeah, what I just said is logic aplenty. "precog cancels out precog" haermmOnly in saber combat. NOT while casting force attacks. I've proven this time and time again, yet you choose to ignore it.
LOL I figured you, of all people, would see what I was doing there.
The hell, have you gone insane? I said that both having precog would likely outdo the ability.
What you've done is gimp Jedi/Sith of their superior abilities by trying to wrap it up in a little box that better fits your pro-wizard stroking; while going overboard with wizard powers.
You don't even truly know what you're doing here, as you can't keep a straight argument.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Like he did in the vid where Yoda force pushed his ass?Nah, apparition is instant, force lightning is not. Snape'll be long gone before Sidious gets an attack off.
Same way he sensed Yodas force push, yeah?
Let's see.....Snape appatrates away, casts Fiendfyre, let's it pursue Sidious. As Sidious is busy fending it off, Snape death spells him.
Simple.
Yoda is a Jedi; he has precog too.
Possible, not likely. But covered. He poofs away, Sidious' precog and superior reflexes will have him ready before wizard poofs back.
Yoda is a Jedi; he has precog too.
Pretty sure Fiendfyre can't be controlled once cast; it's likely to attack Snape as it is Sidious, or just go about it's business burning down London. Would need someone knowledgeable in Harry Potter and not clouded by fanboyism to better define Fiendfyre though.
Originally posted by RobtardNews flash?
Yoda is a Jedi; he has precog too.
Possible, not likely. But covered. He poofs away, Sidious' precog and superior reflexes will have him ready before wizard poofs back.Sidious is never shown using mad reflexes casting/reacting to force attacks. It's only in saber combat that their uber reflexes are shown.
Snape apparates 1000 feet away, around a corner, and casts Confundus. Observe, FF to 1:05
Hermione (not a tenth of the wizard Snape is,) is sitting in the stands, at least a football field away, looking at Cormac. She looks DOWN, AWAY from Cormac, and whispers "confundus." There was no wand, there was no eye contact, there was only her whispering the spell WITHOUT looking at Cormac.
Go ahead, counter that.
Yoda is a Jedi; he has precog too.News flash?
Pretty sure Fiendfyre can't be controlled once cast; it's likely to attack Snape as it is Sidious, or just go about it's business burning down London. Would need someone knowledgeable in Harry Potter and not clouded by fanboyism to better define Fiendfyre though.Nah, Snape can apparate away from it. The strength of the wizard is what matters. Bellatrix controlled it perfectly. Snape is stronger than she. Do the math.
Originally posted by RobtardI know what you are saying. I am saying that despite Yoda having precog too, Sidious should have seen the attack coming.
The hell, have you gone insane? I said that both having precog would likely outdo the ability.
What you've done is gimp Jedi/Sith of their superior abilities by trying to wrap it up in a little box that better fits your pro-wizard stroking; while going overboard with wizard powers.I most certainly have not haermm
You don't even truly know what you're doing here, as you can't keep a straight argument.Sure, if you say so.
Round and round and round, getting bored, as these threads are all basically the same.
Precognition, superior-reaction time and reflexes. You can downplay or outright try to do away with them all you like, but in the end, single wizard doesn't have much of a chance against a Jedi, let alone one of the more powerful Siths.
Just curious, who do you think(lowest level) could beat a wizard like Snape?
Originally posted by RobtardAgree there, getting a bit tedious.
Round and round and round, getting bored, as these threads are all basically the same.
Precognition, superior-reaction time and reflexes.Not while casting force attacks, only shown in saber combat. If a wizard goes toe to toe with a Jedi, the wizard is gonna get cut to ribbons, all day every day.
You can downplay or outright try to do away with them all you like, but in the end, single wizard doesn't have much of a chance against a Jedi, let alone one of the more powerful Siths.
Bullshit. A wizard can cast stronger and faster traveling magical spells faster than a Jedi can cast slower moving force attacks.
Just curious, who do you think(lowest level) could beat a wizard like Snape?No one in the SW universe, that's for sure.
For someone to beat Snape, they have to have the ability to teleport, and have the ability to attack from afar. Weapon XI comes to mind. Griffin and Rice Bowl as a team have a chance.
But Snape was never shown controlling it, was he? If he wasnt then we must assume he cant, you just trapped yourself with that by your own logic
Also, that wasnt apparate, it was more of a teleporting thingy
Apparate, as shown in DH, swirls you around and then teleports you
You also never countered the showing of passage of time, since we didnt see them arrive we must assume they just did, and are going about their business
Originally posted by PwnedRead the last page or so, uber wizards can do what lesser wizards can. Same with Jedi.
But Snape was never shown controlling it, was he? If he wasnt then we must assume he cant, you just trapped yourself with that by your own logic
Also, that wasnt apparate, it was more of a teleporting thingyTeleporting and apparating are the same thing.
Apparate, as shown in DH, swirls you around and then teleports youThat was Dobby, a house elf, apparating.
You also never countered the showing of passage of time, since we didnt see them arrive we must assume they just did, and are going about their business
http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Apparition
Apparition is a magical method of transportation, and is basically magical teleportation, having the user focus on a desired location in his mind, then disappear from his current location and instantly reappear at his desired location.
Well, considering this is the MOVIE forum, not the BOOK forum, the last page has no value whatsoever.......
That was honestly a fail there...........
How well can Snape focus on a place when theres a lightsaber rushing at him?
We've seen Palps do a force push (pretty sure at least) so he can just, if all else fails, push his activated lightsaber at Snape
This is just getting retarded......
Originally posted by PwnedYes, but wiki links that elaborate on what is seen in movies is acceptable. As long as it is within reason. Read the MVF rules, and see the vid of Fred and George apparating.
Well, considering this is the MOVIE forum, not the BOOK forum, the last page has no value whatsoever.......
That was honestly a fail there...........Nah.
How well can Snape focus on a place when theres a lightsaber rushing at him?Takes a second to ignite it then throw it. Even IF apparating is not instantaneous, that's more than enough time for Snape to apparate away.
Or Snape can just vanish it in mid flight. FF to 4:39.
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We've seen Palps do a force push (pretty sure at least) so he can just, if all else fails, push his activated lightsaber at SnapeSnape apparates away from both with ease.
This is just getting retarded......Bit.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Meanwhile, back on Skywalker Ranch.....😄
Holy shit! The musical work of RJ...!!!
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Meanwhile, back on Skywalker Ranch.....😄
And that wasnt?