Ha Youre the twit. Anakin being there or not, Mace was orbiting Geonosis after that. 🙂
I said nothing of Grevious, but the rest is enough to prove the Palpswin point.
Who says? Theres nothing on screen to indicate that. Did you see Luke blasted out of any windows and into orbit? No you didnt. 🙄
Your insane ramblings have all been dismissed.
If you have nothing better than that then its all over with massive Forcewinnage.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Ha Youre the twit. Anakin being there or not, Mace was orbiting Geonosis after that. 🙂I said nothing of Grevious, but the rest is enough to prove the Palpswin point.
Who says? Theres nothing on screen to indicate that. Did you see Luke blasted out of any windows and into orbit? No you didnt. 🙄
Your insane ramblings have all been dismissed.
If you have nothing better than that then its all over with massive Forcewinnage.
And had Anakin not been there, Mace never would have been fried, Sidious would be dead.
The Grievous comment was proving that force crush was never shown in a SW movie. Force crush argument= Over.
Who says what? The ability to vanish an object>>>>>the ability to move an object with TK.
Nah, Snape is faster casting spells. You know it. I know it.
Nah its obvious that Sidious was toying with Mace, stalling 'til Anakin arrived to see Mace "Brutalising" his "innocent friend" Palpatine in order to provoke the darkside catalysing reaction from him.
You're a mug RJ or blind or something. Its perfectly obvious that force crush is employed by both Luke, Vader and Dooku..
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I honestly don't recall it in that movie. Clip? Why isn't Grievous in the credits?Yeah, but what was Vaders state of mind when he did it? Remember when I argued that Harry could inflate the Emperor with a thought and you said no, Harry didn't know what he was doing? Same thing. Vader was out of control, he didn't consciously do it.
No, it's not.
Also, Snape can speak in force choke, even if it's just a whisper. All Confundus takes is a whisper.
Precog is useless in a 3 2 1 GO duel.
A force users uber reaction time is never shown while casting force attacks, why do you keep trying to use that as an argument?
Then I must be confusing it for the Cartoon Network series. My bad.
And? Force-crush is just an extension of every over Force telekinesis related power. Vader did it, so can Sidious and arguably any Force-user. You can argue that the magnitude of Vader's Force-crush was out of his control and due to being an emotional wreck, sure. But the ability itself is there. Force-crush, it's in play, Harry.
Yes, it is. Thinking is faster than saying a 3 syllable word. This is fact, can't be argued.
Force-crush, he's not speaking unless you consider gurgling blood a language.
No, Precog is extremely useful in a duel, stop being a tool.
Wizards aren't super human mutant tanks, they're humans who have an assortment of useful and powerful spells. Humans though; with human speeds, reaction-time and ZERO precognition. Why do your arguments always make them out to be more then they are.
^good idea, Sids won long ago
Frankly, there are PLENTY of RJs arguments that, if applying to ANY wizard, can easily apply to Jedi/Sith as well
Anywho, the Confundus thing, dont think we EVER saw it working on someone more powerful than a, what, second year Harry?
For all we know it has to crumble their will and crap, wouldnt work in that case, but idk not entirely sure
Originally posted by RobtardMhm.
Then I must be confusing it for the Cartoon Network series. My bad.
And? Force-crush is just an extension of every over Force telekinesis related power. Vader did it, so can Sidious and arguably any Force-user.No, you can't rightly say that. That's like me saying all wizards can do wandless magic.
You can argue that the magnitude of Vader's Force-crush was out of his control and due to being an emotional wreck, sure. But the ability itself is there. Force-crush, it's in play, Harry.The ability is there for Vader, and only when the woman he loves is killed.
Yes, it is. Thinking is faster than saying a 3 syllable word. This is fact, can't be argued.Saying a 3 letter word is faster than: Raising ones hand and shooting force lightning from it. Hold your hand at your side, raise it, and imagine force lightning shooting from it. Then say "confundus." Saying the word is faster.
All moot, because I have proven time and time again that Snape has faster reflexes when it comes to casting spells. AND apparition is instant. Force users have absolutely ZERO instant force attacks, THAT is fact and cannot be argued against.
Force-crush, he's not speaking unless you consider gurgling blood a language.Not available here.
No, Precog is extremely useful in a duel, stop being a tool.How? So Sidious has an idea what will happen, how's he gonna counter confundus? Or Snape casting spells faster? Or apparition?
He can't.
Next question.
Wizards aren't super human mutant tanks, they're humans who have an assortment of useful and powerful spells. Humans though; with human speeds, reaction-time and ZERO precognition. Why do your arguments always make them out to be more then they are.Funny thing, that. All force users, every time while casting force attacks, move at human speeds. Snape, here:
Displays reaction time a Jedi shows ONLY in saber combat. In about 3/4 of a second, this is what happens:
1. Harry casts a spell at Snape from 100 feet away.
2. Snape turns and blocks it.
3. In the same fluid motion, Snape returns a spell of his own.
4. Harry is hit by the spell.
All in under one second. This in itself should close the thread, but you nimrods just refuse to accept that a wizard can and would beat any Jedi throw their way.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girthhaermm No, he wasn't. High end screen feats for force lightning is it takes a minute or so to kill, AND the victim can still talk. Anything else is speculation.
Nah its obvious that Sidious was toying with Mace, stalling 'til Anakin arrived to see Mace "Brutalising" his "innocent friend" Palpatine in order to provoke the darkside catalysing reaction from him.
You're a mug RJ or blind or something. Its perfectly obvious that force crush is employed by both Luke, Vader and Dooku..No, it wasn't.
Originally posted by PwnedNah. Snape is faster casting spells, can apparate instantly, has stronger spells.
^good idea, Sids won long ago
Frankly, there are PLENTY of RJs arguments that, if applying to ANY wizard, can easily apply to Jedi/Sith as wellBring it, I'll bury it.
Anywho, the Confundus thing, dont think we EVER saw it working on someone more powerful than a, what, second year Harry?It worked on the Goblet of Fire, which happens to be one of the most powerful magical objects in HPverse.
For all we know it has to crumble their will and crap, wouldnt work in that case, but idk not entirely sure
Fail.
Try again.
Originally posted by Robtard
Sorry, your consistent gimping of Jedi/Sith while giving carte blanche to the wizards has become both tedious and boring.BTW, don't think I missed your deliberate editing of my post, so you could reply to it in a manner that suited you better slipped by me, it was lolz, you weasel.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Look, I think we can all agree that Sidious has force attacks that will **** Snape up and good.We can also agree that Snape has spells that will **** Sidious up, right?
Both have awesome power that, if applied to the other, will cause major damage.
Are we in agreement on this at least?
Originally posted by RobtardNo, I was gonna say "Then it comes down to a quick draw."
Considering I've said the same basic thing to you in the 'Vader Vs Snape' thread (and/or possibly some other Wizardarly thread), of course I agree. This is where you say "Snape's so much faster, he pwns; he pwns hard!!!11!!"
Originally posted by RobtardSo we are now here:
And the cat with the super-human reflexes and reaction-time wins. This is where you say what I said you'd say before.
The Sidious supporters believe that he will get a force attack off first, even though he is never shown using reflexes that can even be called "impressive", much less "uber", while casting force attacks.
DDM and I, and at least 4 others (gutless pricks won't post here), believe that Snape will get a spell off first, and have backed it up with video evidence.
This is where we stand.It's pretty obvious that casting force attacks takes time and effort, more time and effort than it takes Snape to cast a spell.
Main argument is, if an Uber wizard can do what a lesser one can, then ok then
However, anything a lesser Sith, or elmost even ANY sith before Palpatine, what they could do, he can do
He studied their holocrons AND learned everything they knew, not much was out of his grasp (some stuff was, but alot of it was unique to that specific person)
Anyways, that vid has been taken down now, so you really cant use it as proof of insta win, as we cant see the feat ourselves
Also, Snape made that spell, if he heard it (which he did) he would already know how to counter it, hence the ability to have that reaction speed
Also, its not a hundred feet, more like 10 to 15, dont exaggerate the distance
Originally posted by PwnedAs long as it was shown in the movies, yes, I am all for this.
Main argument is, if an Uber wizard can do what a lesser one can, then ok thenHowever, anything a lesser Sith, or elmost even ANY sith before Palpatine, what they could do, he can do
He studied their holocrons AND learned everything they knew, not much was out of his grasp (some stuff was, but alot of it was unique to that specific person)But we can only use what is shown onscreen.
Anyways, that vid has been taken down now, so you really cant use it as proof of insta win, as we cant see the feat ourselvesWhat vid? Link?
Also, Snape made that spell, if he heard it (which he did) he would already know how to counter it, hence the ability to have that reaction speedBlocking a spell is blocking a spell, he showed the same speed when he blocked incarcerous.
Also, its not a hundred feet, more like 10 to 15, dont exaggerate the distanceNo, it's more like 75-100. Look again, pause at :19....
Originally posted by BruceSkywalkerSee for yourself:
is this true Pwned??
Originally posted by Rogue JediNo, it's more like 75-100. Look again, pause at :19....