Cross Genre Match #21: Frieza vs Thanos

Originally posted by carver9
[B]They weren't full of it and agan, the manga had no narriators, the characters themselves were and everything that was said in the story was wrote by akira, not frieza or cell. Just because someone thinks they are or were unstoppable doesn't mean that a character could come along far stronger. Cell and frieza WAS the strongest AND invincible during the time until someone "with a higher powerlevel" surfaced whjich again, takes us back to powerlevel and dbz. I don't understand why you are ignoring this.

Maybe they weren't lying. Maybe they were just wrong. If they said they were the strongest and someone stronger shows up, it means they were either lying or wrong, but the statement was not true. You said it yourself: They only THINK they are the strongest.

Why don't we have proof when frieza himself said this? The only way to make frieza statement none legit is by showing something that suggest that he was lying when he said that he used 1% of his power. Do you have anything going against this? I guess frieza also lied when he screamed out to goku "how did you dodged my blaaaaast" or when frieza was powering up and reached 100%... did he lie then?

If less than 1% of Freiza's power destroyed a planet, the a full powered Freiza should have been able to destroy Namek in less than 5 minutes. There's is reason to doubt his words when a stronger form is unable to do what a weaker form said he could do.

Frieza never lied about his power, he just faced someone that trumped it. Cell never lied about his power (which is what akira wrote) , he just had someone that surpassed him.

Then Cell was just wrong, not lying. Do you think Cell was really perfect? That one was proven wrong when he was defeated. And he simply said he could destroy the solar system, but that can't be verified except by the fact that he did not follow through with his boast.

What is that you don't understand?

Villans brag. Characters are fallible. Anyone that says they are unbeatable/invincible/etc. and is then defeated has been wrong.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Maybe they weren't lying. Maybe they were just wrong. If they said they were the strongest and someone stronger shows up, it means they were either lying or wrong, but the statement was not true. You said it yourself: They only THINK they are the strongest.

If less than 1% of Freiza's power destroyed a planet, the a full powered Freiza should have been able to destroy Namek in less than 5 minutes. There's is reason to doubt his words when a stronger form is unable to do what a weaker form said he could do.

Then Cell was just wrong, not lying. Do you think Cell was really perfect? That one was proven wrong when he was defeated. And he simply said he could destroy the solar system, but that can't be verified except by the fact that he did not follow through with his boast.

Villans brag. Characters are fallible. Anyone that says they are unbeatable/invincible/etc. and is then defeated has been wrong.

Piccolo also stated that frieza even during a percentage of his power level could destroy namek. The only reason he couldn't destroy it when he tried was because frieza stated himself that the spirit bomb depleted him off ALL his energy. He never tried for a second time to destroy it, he was too busy fighting goku.

Yes, I believe cell was perfect, than his other incarnations. That is what he meant... once he reached his final form, he would have been perfect, complete and he did reach it. That doesn't mean that someone can't surpass him, especially a saiyan.

Again, the characters are the narriator... akira used them as notifications of giving off the enrgy they could produce (narriators).

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
No. His "speed" feats are highly questionable and they're reaction type anyway.

Iron Fist catches a bullet - does that mean he moves and fights at bullet speed? Of course not.

Originally posted by carver9
No... he didn't mean that.

Lol... frieza doesn't have the power... how much power has thanos tanked?

Can thanos generate a kick that can shake a planet? Frieza TANKED a kick that shook planet namek without having a scratch and what is it that you don't understand... thanos isn't touching frieza let alone seeing him during this fight... can you not read. If frieza doesn't want thanos seeing him HE WILL NOT SEE HIM. If frieza doesn't want thanos touching him HE WILL NOT TOUCH HIM. Something is seriously wrong with you. Use your brain, think about what I am telling you.

Except for the part that thanos has good reactions.And listen what I am about to say carefully: Freiza will want thanos to see him.

Freiza will think he can easily break thanos using a low power level as freiza thinks he so great. Thanos will then grab him and snap his neck.

Originally posted by carver9
Piccolo also stated that frieza even during a percentage of his power level could destroy namek. The only reason he couldn't destroy it when he tried was because frieza stated himself that the spirit bomb depleted him off ALL his energy. He never tried for a second time to destroy it, he was too busy fighting goku.

Yes, I believe cell was perfect, than his other incarnations. That is what he meant... once he reached his final form, he would have been perfect, complete and he did reach it. That doesn't mean that someone can't surpass him, especially a saiyan.

Again, the characters are the narriator... akira used them as notifications of giving off the enrgy they could produce (narriators).

Originally posted by Creshosk
Let's see...
Freeza: I'll rip you to shreds
proven false when he wasn't ripped to shreds

Freeza: You'll never beat me!
proven wrong when freeza was beaten

Freeza: I'm the strongest in the universe.
Proven wrong when someone else was stronger.

Vegeta: I'm the strongest in the universe.
Proven wrong when someone else was stronger.

Baata: I'm the fastest in the universe.
Proven wrong when someone else was faster.

Ginyu: No one's stronger than me, except for freeza.
Proven wrong when someone else other than freeza was stronger.

Piccolo: I've done it - no matter how strong he is, it doesn't matter, I just obtained ULTIMATE POWER.
Except that it wasn't the ultimate power.

Freeza(to trunks): For us to get rid of a piece of trash like you is a piece of cake.
King Cold (about Trunks): Freeza! You did it. He was no match for us.
Kind Cold(also to Trunks): You definitely can't beat me!
Proven wrong when Trunks beat them.

Vegeta(to 16, 17, and 18): I'm going to grind you to bits!
Proven wrong when he couldn't grind them to bits.

17: There can't be anyone in this world strong enough to fight me.
Proven wrong when Cell fought him.

Cell: When I achieve my perfect form, I will be the most powerful being imaginable!
Proven wrong when Gohan beat him.

17: I'm the ultimate Warrior.
Proven wrong when Cell beat him.

Cell: I'm impossible to kill
Proven wrong when Gohan killed him.

Cell: No one can stand against me!
Proven wrong when Gohan stood against him.

Cell: If I had my perfect form, I'd be perfect in every way! I wouldn't lose to anyone!
Proven wrong when he lost to Gohan.

Cell(to Gohan): Even if you lived for a hundred years, you'd never be able to kill me.
Proven wrong when Gohan killed him with out living to 100 years.

Cell(to Gohan): You can't possibly believe you could beat me.
Proven wrong when Gohan receive encouragment from Goku.

Cell(to Gohan): There's no way I can lose to you!
Proven wrong when he lost to Gohan.

Cell(to Gohan): I won't let you win!
Proven wrong when he failed to stop Gohan from winning.

Cell: I've gathered enough ki not only to destroy the planet, but the whole solar system!
Everything else he's said in this list has been lies. Why should this be true?

Cell: I'm going to finish you now.
Proven wrong when he didn't finish him.

Pipi: Babi-di is on the bottom, but you'll have to get through me. You'll die here.
Proven wrong when they didn't die there.

Dabura: If you use Yakon, they'll be defeated!
Proven wrong when he used Yakon and they weren't defeated.

Dabura: Yakon should be strong enough to beat them easily!
Proven wrong when Yakon didn't beat them easily.

Dabura: I'll finish them off.
Proven wrong when Dabura didn't finish them off.

Dabura: No one can beat me with strength.
Proven wrong when he was beaten.

I'm noticing a pattern here...

They were all telling the truth right? Then why are the statments in blue true?

lol

Originally posted by Creshosk
I remember someone saying that Wolverine could kill the ocean by stabbing the ocean floor.

i think it was jinzin.....

😖hifty:

heh

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Oh sorry I thought that said can't. Thanos has [b]tanked plane busting power.

Except for the part that thanos has good reactions.And listen what I am about to say carefully: Freiza will want thanos to see him.

Freiza will think he can easily break thanos using a low power level as freiza thinks he so great. Thanos will then grab him and snap his neck. [/B]

Why would frieza allow thanos to hit him when he didnt even let someone much more faster than thanos touch him and even if thanos by some type of miracle touch frieza he isn't one shotting him. Do you not understand this.

Originally posted by carver9
Why would frieza allow thanos to hit him when he didnt even let someone much more faster than thanos touch him and even if thanos by some type of miracle touch frieza he isn't one shotting him. Do you not understand this.

Originally posted by carver9
Why would frieza allow thanos to hit him when he didnt even let someone much more faster than thanos touch him and even if thanos by some type of miracle touch frieza he isn't one shotting him. Do you not understand this.

mmm

WARNED!

biscuits

Originally posted by leonidas
i think it was jinzin.....

😖hifty:

heh

Originally posted by Creshosk
They were all telling the truth right? Then why are the statments in blue true?

Thanos... I'm unstoppable with the gauntlet and no one has the power to take it.

Loses the gauntlet

Superman: I can stop konvikt

Gets one shotted

Wolverine... my claws can cut through anything

Can't cut the juggernaut

Darkseid... I'm power supreme

Gets ripped up by supes.

Originally posted by carver9
Thanos... I'm unstoppable with the gauntlet and no one has the power to take it.

Loses the gauntlet

Superman: I can stop konvikt

Gets one shotted

Wolverine... my claws can cut through anything

Can't cut the juggernaut

Darkseid... I'm power supreme

Gets ripped up by supes.

But hey, way to ignore the point with the usual "No you!" you always pull. FOCUS!

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Thanos killed surfer in 8 hits. Surfer has Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar superior duribility feats to freiza. Freiza is getting one shot.

Show me surfer TANKING a blast that was 10 times more powerful than the planetary level blast that goku shot at vegeta during the saiyan saga that had enough power to destroy earth then you MIGHT have an argument.

Here you go again, talking without knowing what you are talking about.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Thanos killed surfer in 8 hits. Surfer has Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar superior duribility feats to freiza. Freiza is getting one shot.

Thanos would never connect.

Originally posted by carver9
Show me surfer TANKING a blast that was 10 times more powerful than the planetary level blast that goku shot at vegeta during the saiyan saga that had enough power to destroy earth then you MIGHT have an argument.

Here you go again, talking without knowing what you are talking about.

He doesn't know what he's talking about? Like you knew what you werer talking about when you said that Cell meant that he'd be perfect but didn't mean he'd be unbeatable, despite saying "the most powerful being imaginable"?

Yeah you're the master at not knowing what your'e talking about.

Originally posted by carver9
Thanos... I'm unstoppable with the gauntlet and no one has the power to take it.

Loses the gauntlet

Superman: I can stop konvikt

Gets one shotted

Wolverine... my claws can cut through anything

Can't cut the juggernaut

Darkseid... I'm power supreme

Gets ripped up by supes.

Originally posted by carver9
Show me surfer TANKING a blast that was 10 times more powerful than the planetary level blast that goku shot at vegeta during the saiyan saga that had enough power to destroy earth then you MIGHT have an argument.

Here you go again, talking without knowing what you are talking about.

And even then he has been through a black hole. Which shits on anything freiza has.

Originally posted by Creshosk
I feel you're trying to make a point. But since you fail to grasp that one time instances aren't the same as all the freaking time, you fail.

But hey, way to ignore the point with the usual "No you!" you always pull. FOCUS!

I feel that you TRIED t make a point but failed because you still don't understand what the word plot means.

That little example that you tried to use happens in comics every month but that doesn't take away from a characters ability.

I don't understand why you don't get the fact that even though that person was telling the truth "at that moment" plot was the only thing that changed that.... someone AMPING to surpass him.

You are basically calling akira a liar, not the characters.

Originally posted by carver9
I feel that you TRIED t make a point but failed because you still don't understand what the word plot means.

Originally posted by carver9
That little example that you tried to use happens in comics every month but that doesn't take away from a characters ability.

You really are just a troll aren't you?

You are basically calling akira a liar, not the characters.

No, I'm not. Stop trolling.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
No one did...just saying. Show me any proof saying it could destroy the planet 10 times 😂

And even then he has been through a black hole. Which shits on anything freiza has.

Vegeta shot a blast that was stated as being able to destroy the planet, goku deflected that blast with kayoken times 10.

The kayoken amps goku ability 10 times stronger than what it was. Goku kayoken times 10 was strong enough to shed earth... goku when landing on namek became 1000s of times more powerful and then he used the kayoken *20 during the time he shot the kameha blast at him. It exploded right in front of frieza face, frieza TANKED it. Remember, the kayoken times 10 had enough power to destroy earth since it overpower vegeta earth destroying blast.

Stop bringing up black holes when far less has hurt surfer like thanos fist and ironman blast and thor hammer.

Originally posted by carver9
Vegeta shot a blast that was stated as being able to destroy the planet, goku deflected that blast with kayoken times 10.

The kayoken amps goku ability 10 times stronger than what it was. Goku kayoken times 10 was strong enough to shed earth... goku when landing on namek became 1000s of times more powerful and then he used the kayoken *20 during the time he shot the kameha blast at him. It exploded right in front of frieza face, frieza TANKED it. Remember, the kayoken times 10 had enough power to destroy earth since it overpower vegeta earth destroying blast.

Stop bringing up black holes when far less has hurt surfer like thanos fist and ironman blast and thor hammer.

And if you can't understand the difference between the author and his characters then you have a problem telling the difference between fantasy and reeality and should seek psychiatric help.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Seriously? That's what you're going with? They were liars for the sake of the plot? repeatedly. Over and over again?

You're still trying to say they weren't wrong?
when nothing they said in that list was true?

You really are just a troll aren't you?

No, I'm not. Stop trolling.

You are the one that is trolling, nitpicking sentences out of a 300 story anime lol to ry to prove a point.

Now again, what is thanos most destructive force of power he has shot from his hands because he sure as hell isn't touching him with his fist?