Originally posted by zopzopNot really.
Yeah nothing like his feats of galaxy level destruction, or shaking the multiverse, his creation taking on 8 Celestials at once, or his battles with his foes threatening to destroy all reality. You know, nothing.
He has a big AOE feat.Nothing compared to elder gods,cube beings,celestials,abstracts.
You just really seem obsessed with big AOE's.
Originally posted by zopzopSo your using evidence of something not odin,that he has an amp, and is much more powerful than him.
The Destroyer, which he created, that he later filled up with his life force and the life force of every Asgardian except Thor, and only because Thor wasn't there.
He didn't do it by himself.ANd he still lost.It doesn't count.
So all you have are big AOE's.Not near cube being much less abstract.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
[B]So your using evidence of something not odin,that he has an amp, and is much more powerful than him.He didn't do it by himself.ANd he still lost.It doesn't count.
The destroyer is more powerful than Odin? What comic have you been reading?
He created the armor, the other skyfathers lent only portion of their power to it.l But Odin made it.
He "lost" vs 8 Celestials. E I G H T.
So all you have are big AOE's.Not near cube being much less abstract.
Threatening ALL reality with destruction and rocking the multiverse while reigniting dead stars universe wide is not Cube or Abstract level?
Originally posted by zopzop
LordofMurderYou didn't like that Thor Annual "Tier List"?
I thought it was pretty accurate no?
I mean Odin does seem to be the equal to Galactus or a Cube Being. Cube Beings are inferior to Celestials. Celestials are inferior to Abstractions. The Abstractions are inferior to the LT.
The Odin/Galactus/Cube Being thing isn't to my liking but Odin's feats clearly place him in their league. You already know my opinion on this.
It should go Odin <<<<<<<<<Cube Being << Galactus
No...didnt like that list; Odin may have a really high end feat under his belt against Seth, but he normally isnt portrayed as being that powerful.
During the IG arc, he and the other Skyfathers got stranded in Asgard; I have no doubt that Galactus or anyone else present during the meeting of "The Astral Deities of the Universe" would not have been stopped the same way the Skyfathers were (I dont think anyone in the Cube Being tier would be stopped like that either)...
As pertains the Celestials, they are often portrayed as being right up there with the Abstracts; I certainly believe that most powerful Celestials are stronger than the lowest of Abstracts (Tiamut and Exitar come to mind)...
Of course with all the inconsistencies in comics, you can argue Odin is above Galactus and some Cube tier beings (and be right about it as well since most arguments come down to on panel feats), but I contend that Odin is often portrayed as being inferior to Cube tier beings and Galactus...
I really think they need to retcon everything and just start over as its almost impossible to come to a consensus at present.
Originally posted by zopzopThe destroy powered by all of asgard is obviously more poweful then Odin 😐
The destroyer is more powerful than Odin? What comic have you been reading?He created the armor, the other skyfathers lent only portion of their power to it.l But Odin made it.
He "lost" vs 8 Celestials. E I G H T.
Threatening ALL reality with destruction and rocking the multiverse while reigniting dead stars universe wide is not Cube or Abstract level?
And he could have lost to one.He didn't even beat one.
No its not.Threatening means nothing if it doesn't happen.The shaking is a just a big AOE and isn't impressive.I mean Thor and BRB have rocked the multiverse.But they aren't even skyfather.
And cube beings have created reality's all their own.
And he only has one feat of doing anything like that. His next highest feat is busting a galaxy.Things abstracts do for fun.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
I really think they need to retcon everything and just start over as its almost impossible to come to a consensus at present.
The Living Tribunal
The Full Phoenix Force
The Goblin Force
Order/Chaos
Zom
Eternity
Infinity
Death
Oblivion
Shuma Gorath
What do they all have in common? Odin has more impressive or as impressive on panel feats as that group of Top Tier Abstractions!
Hell yes they need a retcon.
Originally posted by zopzopOdin has no feats more impressive then them.
The Living Tribunal
The Full Phoenix Force
The Goblin Force
Order/Chaos
Zom
Eternity
Infinity
Death
Oblivion
Shuma GorathWhat do they all have in common? Odin has more impressive or as impressive on panel feats as that group of Top Tier Abstractions!
Hell yes they need a retcon.
You wank one feat.Then the next highest feat he has is destroying a galaxy.All of them are easily capabale of that.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
[B]The destroy powered by all of asgard is obviously more poweful then Odin 😐And he could have lost to one.He didn't even beat one.
Odin as Lord of Asgard took their life force because it's his to take. Just like he can draw power from the land itself to amp him. It's in his powerset.
No its not.Threatening means nothing if it doesn't happen.The shaking is a just a big AOE and isn't impressive.I mean Thor and BRB have rocked the multiverse.But they aren't even skyfather.
It didn't happen because it was stopped!
And cube beings have created reality's all their own.
Odin created Asgard which was it's own dimension (see the Thor Annual scan).
And he only has one feat of doing anything like that. His next highest feat is busting a galaxy.Things abstracts do for fun.
Really, aside from Galactus (and only recently), you got on panel evidence of abstracts busting a galaxy? What issue?
Originally posted by zopzopYet he can't always do it.Its not his power.Its their power.He can just take it.And unless specified in a forum match he can't do that.
Odin as Lord of Asgard took their life force because it's his to take. Just like he can draw power from the land itself to amp him. It's in his powerset.It didn't happen because it was stopped!
Odin created Asgard which was it's own dimension (see the Thor Annual scan).
Really, aside from Galactus (and only recently), you got on panel evidence of abstracts busting a galaxy? What issue?
Once again threatening means nothing.I can threaten you with a knife.If I don't stab you it means nothing.
Entire reality>Dimension.
What do you mean only recently?Galactus has been busting galaxies since the 80's.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
The problem with Cube Being as a tier is that Cube Beings despite being lower on the food chain than Abstracts have much better feats than most of the Abstracts that supposedly shit on them.
Ding ding ding. We have a winner.
See Cube Being feats vs Celestial feats. And supposedly the Celestials are "many orders of magnitude of power above" Cube Beings.
Originally posted by zopzopBecause they were compared on panel. It's also foolish to determine anything based on feats alone and ignore common sense the the writer's comparing these characters power levels without the feats.
Ding ding ding. We have a winner.See Cube Being feats vs Celestial feats. And supposedly the Celestials are "many orders of magnitude of power above" Cube Beings.
Originally posted by Omega Visionthis is true,
The problem with Cube Being as a tier is that Cube Beings despite being lower on the food chain than Abstracts have much better feats than most of the Abstracts that supposedly shit on them.
also the celestials were shook by the power of an elder god
http://www.imagebam.com/image/97adae110297271
eternity stated left uncheck one of them could warp the universe