Originally posted by Colossus-Big CYet celestials owned the 2000ft destroyer.
this is true,also the celestials were shook by the power of an elder god
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Quan, what's their highest on panel feat since that fight 30 or so years ago with the Skyfathers?
Hurling 3-4 planets at Thanos with the IG?
Check the Odin respect thread and compare it to the Galactus/Hearalds and Celestials respect thread.
Odin's on panel feats destroy all others. He has better feats than higher end abstracts (Eternity/Infinity/Oblivion/Death) and universal forces like the Phoenix Force and Goblin Force.
Originally posted by zopzopThey defeated odin with a amp and years of prep. feats don't determine anything.
Quan, what's their highest on panel feat since that fight 30 or so years ago with the Skyfathers?Hurling 3-4 planets at Thanos with the IG?
Check the Odin respect thread and compare it to the Galactus/Hearalds and Celestials respect thread.
Odin's on panel feats destroy all others. He has better feats than higher end abstracts (Eternity/Infinity/Oblivion/Death) and universal forces like the Phoenix Force and Goblin Force.
You clinging to them like they do shows an inability on your part to understand the simple message that the Celestials are beyond odin as they are far more powerful than he is.
Feats don't determine anything here and never have. People arguing by feats and feats alone while ignoring on panel comparisons aren't good debaters.
Originally posted by zopzopPhail.Just phail.
Quan, what's their highest on panel feat since that fight 30 or so years ago with the Skyfathers?Hurling 3-4 planets at Thanos with the IG?
Check the Odin respect thread and compare it to the Galactus/Hearalds and Celestials respect thread.
Odin's on panel feats destroy all others. He has better feats than higher end abstracts (Eternity/Infinity/Oblivion/Death) and universal forces like the Phoenix Force and Goblin Force.
Two celestials had dozens of planets launched at thanos.
Odin has mabye one feat beyond abstract.And due to that one feat being far beyond anything else he has ever done it is PIS.Or just a hyperbole.Abstracts stomp Odin.
You have no proof.
Originally posted by zopzop
Quan, what's their highest on panel feat since that fight 30 or so years ago with the Skyfathers?Hurling 3-4 planets at Thanos with the IG?
Check the Odin respect thread and compare it to the Galactus/Hearalds and Celestials respect thread.
Odin's on panel feats destroy all others. He has better feats than higher end abstracts (Eternity/Infinity/Oblivion/Death) and universal forces like the Phoenix Force and Goblin Force.
Odin doesnt have better feats than the best of the Phoenix Force. Not by any stretch of the imagination. And the very fact that Odin is but a speck of the Phoenix Forces totality and yet has such high level feats should surely lead you to realise that its not all about feats alone when comparing these characters, but also character statements, the comparative nature of the characters themselves and common sense that should all play a part in such discussion.
Originally posted by Utrigita
Fixed.
Lol what?
I can't think of more than a single instance that an Odin fan used that scene as evidence before a Galactus fan has. Galactus fans and the like however cling to a piece of text on that page like a drowning to a life preserver. Because without it, there's no basis at all that Galactus was in anyway weakened, when Thor sent his ass running to the hills.
I don't care if that page ceased to exist. I doubt any Thor/Odin fans would either.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusHe was fighting another character so him being weakened which he usually is makes perfect sense. As a Thor fan of course it angers you but you hav eno choice but to accept it.
Lol what?I can't think of more than a single instance that an Odin fan used that scene as evidence before a Galactus fan has. Galactus fans and the like however cling to a piece of text on that page like a drowning to a life preserver. Because without it, there's no basis at all that Galactus was in anyway weakened, when Thor sent his ass running to the hills.
I don't care if that page ceased to exist. I doubt any Thor/Odin fans would either.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He was fighting another character so him being weakened which he usually is makes perfect sense. As a Thor fan of course it angers you but you hav eno choice but to accept it.
When Galactus is weakened, the comic always points it out or at the very least hints it in some way, shape or form. It did neither. And this is Stan Lee's writing. When a character was weakened, he made it damn clear. At least when he wrote Thor. Galactus gave no indication of being weakened, and the only thing I recall him doing under his own power was directing some cosmic meteors. It doesn't help that right before the fight, Thor witnessed dozens of refugees from various planets fleeing as Galactus had ravaged the Galaxy -or something like that- with his hunger on his way through there.
Not really. I can easily debate the scene, arguing it's no more cannon than a handbook. It was an extra at the back of a Thor annual. But I'll save that for when I'm bored.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusRetcons. Just like the Thanos appearance you can't say the writer intended it to be Thanos and ignore marvel allowing it to be retconned. The same logic applies here.
When Galactus is weakened, the comic always points it out or at the very least hints it in some way, shape or form. It did neither. And this is Stan Lee's writing. When a character was weakened, he made it damn clear. At least when he wrote Thor. Galactus gave no indication of being weakened, and the only thing I recall him doing under his own power was directing some cosmic meteors. It doesn't help that right before the fight, Thor witnessed dozens of refugees from various planets fleeing as Galactus had ravaged the Galaxy -or something like that- with his hunger on his way through there.Not really. I can easily debate the scene, arguing it's no more cannon than a handbook. It was an extra at the back of a Thor annual. But I'll save that for when I'm bored.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Retcons. Just like the Thanos appearance you can't say the writer intended it to be Thanos and ignore marvel allowing it to be retconned. The same logic applies here.
Good job countering everything. 👆
It was the back up of a Thor annual. It's like arguing this is evidence Thor's stronger than anyone on Earth, even Hulk:
Marvel allowed it!
Do you accept that the Destroyer can destroy Galactus? That's one of the possible implications of that scan.
Whatever, it doesn't matter.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusIf you want to compare a vague comment with an actual statement with regarding Thor's interaction with Galactus and pretend it's the same thing to justify your point then go right on ahead.
Good job countering everything. 👆It was the back up of a Thor annual. It's like arguing this is evidence Thor's stronger than anyone on Earth, even Hulk:
Marvel allowed it!
Do you accept that the Destroyer can destroy Galactus? That's one of the possible implications of that scan.
Whatever, it doesn't matter.
You do this all the time and frankly people can see right through it. Galactus was weakened and has owned Thor ever since. The only thing that makes sense was it was the perfect situation for Thor to do so since he was already engaging someone else and that he was weakened.
Originally posted by quanchi112
If you want to compare a vague comment with an actual statement with regarding Thor's interaction with Galactus and pretend it's the same thing to justify your point then go right on ahead.
A vague comment? It was a strength competition in some Marvel magazine, and Thor won. Nothing vague about it. Marvel allowed Thor to be ranked as number 1!
I don't consider the listing of power levels by Thor at the back of an annual to be anymore cannon than this. At least, not any more cannon than a handbook etc.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You do this all the time and frankly people can see right through it. Galactus was weakened and has owned Thor ever since.
Lulz
Technically, that's not true, but whatever. I think a fight between Thor and Galactus will go about the same as it did most recently in Avengers unless Thor gets more exotic: Thor gets off an attack, and Galactus knocks him down with a blast.
Originally posted by quanchi112
The only thing that makes sense was it was the perfect situation for Thor to do so since he was already engaging someone else and that he was weakened.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
When Galactus is weakened, the comic always points it out or at the very least hints it in some way, shape or form. It did neither. And this is Stan Lee's writing. When a character was weakened, he made it damn clear. At least when he wrote Thor. Galactus gave no indication of being weakened, and the only thing I recall him doing under his own power was directing some cosmic meteors. It doesn't help that right before the fight, Thor witnessed dozens of refugees from various planets fleeing as Galactus had ravaged the Galaxy -or something like that- with his hunger on his way through there.
Anyways, it doesn't really matter. I just don't want people to pretend like it's some irrefutable piece of evidence.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusOk, but Hulk's strength levels vary and this was eons ago and things have changed since then just like Thor doesn't seem to be portrayed as doing anything to Galactus nowadays.
A vague comment? It was a strength competition in some Marvel magazine, and Thor won. Nothing vague about it. Marvel allowed Thor to be ranked as number 1!I don't consider the listing of power levels by Thor at the back of an annual to be anymore cannon than this. At least, not any more cannon than a handbook etc.
Lulz
Technically, that's not true, but whatever. I think a fight between Thor and Galactus will go about the same as it did most recently in Avengers unless Thor gets more exotic: Thor gets off an attack, and Galactus knocks him down with a blast.
And Thor attacked when he did because Ego was defeated by Galactus as I recall.
Anyways, it doesn't really matter. I just don't want people to pretend like it's some irrefutable piece of evidence.
I don't see any reason why we shouldn't believe what is listed in the back of his own book other than from your perspective which takes away from thor so it's plain to see why you'd have the motive here.
Then you really have no problem with Galactus being so far above Thor his only chance would be to have his attention elsewhere and while weakened Thor have the power necessary through his most powerful attack to chase him off.
It's stated black and white. You can ignore it but I know why.
You love you some Thor.
