Superman, Hancock and Hulk VS Hogwarts.

Started by quanchi11236 pages

A death spell that hasn't worked on anything of this magnitude least of all someone as immortal like as Hancock.

Most of these wizards are just fodder and even the higher ups really don't have anything to put these guys down.

The madder Hulk gets the stronger he gets and when you have two guys who can fly as quickly as hancock and Superman have shown the ability to in the past the only thing the mages can do is bide their own time.

Hogwarts has no chance here. You're taking three movie badasses and just letting them tear through this school.

I honestly think Voldemort would be the most difficult to beat due to his cunning and power but he does indeed go down.

Originally posted by ares834
Nah, I'm not really trying. Just giving you a taste of your own medicine. 😉

What powers are being barred from the wizards if I may ask?

I know, this is part of why it's not working. You mad?

I already said. Let's take it to the new thread.

Originally posted by quanchi112
A death spell that hasn't worked on anything of this magnitude least of all someone as immortal like as Hancock.

Most of these wizards are just fodder and even the higher ups really don't have anything to put these guys down.

The madder Hulk gets the stronger he gets and when you have two guys who can fly as quickly as hancock and Superman have shown the ability to in the past the only thing the mages can do is bide their own time.

Hogwarts has no chance here. You're taking three movie badasses and just letting them tear through this school.

I honestly think Voldemort would be the most difficult to beat due to his cunning and power but he does indeed go down.

Avada Kedavra removes the soul. There is no surviving this. All 4 Heroes have souls.

End of discussion.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Avada Kedavra removes the soul. There is no surviving this. All 4 Heroes have souls.

End of discussion.

How do you know Superman and hancock have souls ? Also why can't this attack kill harry potter ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
How do you know Superman and hancock have souls ? Also why can't this attack kill harry potter ?
How do you know they don't? If not, transfiguration or vanishing spells.

Harry? Dude........Did you really just ask me that?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
How do you know they don't? If not, transfiguration or vanishing spells.

Harry? Dude........Did you really just ask me that?

You claimed they destroy their souls but they aren't like normal human beings so you can't just claim it with no proof.

It's like this. Certain levels of power affect the human beings and characters of the harry potter universe and certain levels of power don't have any effect on Hancock and Superman while Hulk can quickly amp himself to completely heal and be stronger than ever.

Yes, i did. So kindly answer it so I can make my point.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You claimed they destroy their souls but they aren't like normal human beings so you can't just claim it with no proof.

It's like this. Certain levels of power affect the human beings and characters of the harry potter universe and certain levels of power don't have any effect on Hancock and Superman while Hulk can quickly amp himself to completely heal and be stronger than ever.

Hancock became human after falling for Mary again. Humans have souls.

Superman became mortal after losing his powers in Superman 2. Mortals have souls.

Yes, i did. So kindly answer it so I can make my point.
The death spell can kill Harry, just not from Voldemort. Voldemort split his soul when he killed Harry's mother, and when his curse on Harry backfired, that part of Voldemort's soul was transfered into Harry. Voldemort was killed with his own curse.

But considering in this fight Hancock is fully immortal, and Supes is Supes, can you use that logic?

I think you guys are trying to get too technical here. These are movie versions.

As far as we can tell, avada kadavra kills. Whether it removes the soul or whatever, it doesn't matter. End result is: It kills.

Superman, hulk, and hancock are all alive. Therefore, can be killed. Assuming that avada kadavra does not work on them is simply theoretical. No proof that it won't work on them.

For all of Hancock's immortality, he can still be killed. Why do you think they are the last of their race? Same with superman. For all his nigh invincibility, he can still be killed.

So unless any other proof is given, I will assume that adava kadavra works on any living thing, and that includes the heroes listed here.

With that being said, supes and hancock can still win this as long as they remain at constant super speed.

Just trying to be as objective as I can without any fanboy fanaticism.

Who cares if it kills them (dubious that it can, but moving on), the Death Spell is so slow that neither Hancock nor Supes will ever be threatened with it. Even Hulk may dodge a fair number.

Though of course Superman still blitz's the school out of existence before that.

As it stands, with the wizards 100% unaware and unprepared and gimped all to hell, no one stands a chance against the Heroes.

Spite.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
As it stands, with the wizards 100% unaware and unprepared and gimped all to hell, no one stands a chance against the Heroes.

Spite.

True enough. If they had even half day of prep they would stand a chance.

Wait, was felix felicis banned from this thread?

I love this thread! 😂

It has everything but scantily clad women. 😎

durwizard

superdur

durhulk

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Dammit! No Hancock dur...I'll need to have this fixed. sneer

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Wait, was felix felicis banned from this thread?
I thought you posted felix feces at first. haermm

RJ's thread was closed? 😐

This pleases me.

RJ does the shield protecting the school also effect under it in the soil?

I've seen a picture of Hogwarts that had a very unstable drop into water. These guys can destroy the castle without having to even enter.

And the wizards don't have the capability to predict the attack. They come from another dimension and the Watcher (who in the OP brought them) is far beyond them.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Hancock became human after falling for Mary again. Humans have souls.

Superman became mortal after losing his powers in Superman 2. Mortals have souls.

The death spell can kill Harry, just not from Voldemort. Voldemort split his soul when he killed Harry's mother, and when his curse on Harry backfired, that part of Voldemort's soul was transfered into Harry. Voldemort was killed with his own curse.

Hancock had a plot devicey manner in which he became vulnerable or weakened. Superman gave up his powers but just because they bleed like us doesn't make them human like us or anywhere near as vulnerable as a human being would be. I have never heard of aliens always being thought of us having souls. The whole point is these guys are super invulnerable so attacks that would hurt Voldemort or any wizard so if that also seems right and there's no proof they have a soul similar to a human's then it isn't a viable argument.

So it doesn't kill in all cases. That's the point I was making and Voldy couldn't even kill Dumbledore as easily. It's nowhere near as simple as ave kedara and you're dead especially when considering these guys insane super human strength and durability.

It may kill humans and potter creatures but these guys are just on a higher pay grade.

Originally posted by ares834
I would question whether it would work on Superman. Supes, afterall, isn't a muggle (which is a non-wizarding human) and said spell doesn't seem to affect other animals such as owls.

A muggle is a non-magical being. End of definition.
And HP owls are clearly magical animals, provided they are able to find anybody they have to deliver messages to, regardless of where the person currently is.


I don't like it either but it seems to be the way this forum works.

"What is seen on screen is canon in these forums. If your character you wish to use has feats/actions/handicaps that contradict what that character did on screen (movie canon), then it is a violation and is illegal."

To me, this seems to imply that, if there are feats for the character outside movie canon that do not contradict his movie feats, they are allowed.


That is not what Hagrid says. Far more likely he is outraged that the Dursley's gave them such an unheroic death when in truth they went out in a blaze of glory.

You're right. He says something of that sort in the German version. Not that it matters, provided that, given the car crash that does happen at the beginning of Chamber of Secrets (Ron and Harry crashing into the whomping willow), it's quite obvious that such an event wouldn't do that much to Wizards, isn't it?


We both know this was due to the Harry/Voldemort conection and not something that Harry will be able to replicate agianst other opponents. Which is why Voldemort is looking for the Elder Wand.

Is that stated in the movie? No. So why do we utilize our "book knowledge" here and leave it out of the equation at any other point?


It appears to me at least Voldemort does that not the wand exploding. Regardless surving an explosion that can knock over power poles does not mean he will survive a punch from Superman who can move the moon.

Because Superman, entirely unaware of what Wizards are capable of, will punch each of them with that amount of power?

Is it ever stated that he blew a hole in the ground? Or that this hole was at his feet? And finally that this curse that blew the hole also killed the bystanders?

Yes. By Sirius, when he explains what has really happened in the Shrieking Shack, if I'm not totally mistaken.

Originally posted by Nephthys
As ares pointed out, Superman is not human, so he isn't actually a muggle. Also, is that just in the books? I can't recall such a scene in the movies. But if you can post it, I'll drop the point.

For all intent and purpose, Superman simply counts as muggle, as he doesn't have magical abilities. End of story. And what scene from the movies would you like to have?


Indeed. However, Superman can deal out quite a bit more than they can, so it won't be able to stop him.

This begs for proof, as you're trying to compare a mystical energy field with the powers of Superman.


Movie feats only, as this is a movie only forum.

Cool. How fast can Superman move exactly according to the movies?


None of which is even in the same ballpark as what Superman can do to them.

See above.


The wand thing was because of the unique bond between Harry and Voldemort, which is teh whole plot of teh movie. And the explosion is nowhere close to Superman's capablities. I'm not sure if it was in the movie (I'll check later), but Pettigrew blew up everything behind him only.

Is that unique bond mentioned as cause of what happened, otherwise we go by the "movie only" rule and don't get any explanation for it. I can remove the context of everything too, if it serves my argument, much like you do.

And Peter Pettigrew blew a hole into the street with the wand behind his back, then transformed into a rat and escaped through the sewers. The point: That explosion was huge enough to kill at least 12 people in the process.


He's bloodlusted, so he'll be using his powers to their greatest extent in order to kill his opponents as swiftly as possible.

This doesn't fly. Either he is doing anything at superspeed or with greatest possible strength. Both together don't work, as seen when he lifts the kryptonite continent into space. And why would he even try to strike with force beyond that needed to kill a regular human being, if he's unaware of the abilities of those Wizards?

And what happens if some of them summons a nice chunk of kryptonite or Hancocks girl or hits either of them with an Imperius curse (which has been used against persons invisible to the caster).

Originally posted by Borbarad
How fast can Superman move exactly according to the movies?

Reeve's Superman can fly, presumably, faster than light since he was fast enough to reverse the rotation of Earth.

Routh Superman was stated to be flying at "near light" speeds since he was able to police the entire planet so quickly.

For all intent and purpose, Superman simply counts as muggle, as he doesn't have magical abilities. End of story.

Well I'm so glad that you decided that. Some people may have asked for proof that an alien counts as a muggle, but not me. No sir. If you say they do, then who am I to argue?

And what scene from the movies would you like to have?

Them casting Muggle repelling charms over their camp.


This begs for proof, as you're trying to compare a mystical energy field with the powers of Superman.

Superman can hit it at the speed of light with his continent-lifting strength. Can you show that the barrier is capable of repelling that level of force?

Cool. How fast can Superman move exactly according to the movies?

See Impediments post.

See above.

K.

Is that unique bond mentioned as cause of what happened, otherwise we go by the "movie only" rule and don't get any explanation for it. I can remove the context of everything too, if it serves my argument, much like you do.

I dunno. I havn't actually bothered to watch the latest in the Harry Potter ass-cakes. Perhaps someone else will be kind enough to mention whether is is mentioned?


And Peter Pettigrew blew a hole into the street with the wand behind his back, then transformed into a rat and escaped through the sewers. The point: That explosion was huge enough to kill at least 12 people in the process.

So? Did it hit Pettigrew at all

This doesn't fly. Either he is doing anything at superspeed or with greatest possible strength. Both together don't work, as seen when he lifts the kryptonite continent into space.

You don't think that the thing being made of kryptonite may have weakened him a tinsy bit? And just because a character doesn't do something, doesn't mean he can't. What exactly is stopping Supermn from using superstrength and speed at the same time?

And why would he even try to strike with force beyond that needed to kill a regular human being, if he's unaware of the abilities of those Wizards?

He's bloodlusted. He'll go for the overkill method.

And what happens if some of them summons a nice chunk of kryptonite or Hancocks girl or hits either of them with an Imperius curse (which has been used against persons invisible to the caster).

So he doesn't know the abilities of the wizards according to you, but they know his and Hancocks exact weaknesses? Yeah, that makes sense.