Lloyd Irving vs Link

Started by Nephthys39 pages
Kool, go hold a shield stationary and let someone try to hit you with a whip, tell me how that works out for you.

Look, it didn't happen in a scripted event, so it isn't a feat. Now who's trying to use gameplay as a feat.

That's pretty cool how you can assume the tip needs to crack 6 feet for Link to dodge when you can't dodge a whip until after it's cracked, creating the loop is not an attack. Dodging before this will just get you whipped somewhere else.

Or you could just dodge Majora swinging the handle. 😬

So far downplayed:
Ganondorf's lightning
His energy ball in the cutscene
Barinade's lightning
Majora's whips
Gohts lightning (Noticing a pattern here...)
Link's pillar toss
his attempted block against Ganon
His ability to carry things
His ability to push blocks
His ability to move his shield

Smells like mindless downplaying to me. 😬

Its not our fault you wank a character you have an admited bias towards.

Look, it didn't happen in a scripted event, so it isn't a feat. Now who's trying to use gameplay as a feat.
It's Mandatory, actually, which does make it a feat, Link has to beat Majora and that cannot be done without dealing with his whips.
Or you could just dodge Majora swinging the handle.
And then he cracks the whip and hits you where you moved to, GG.
Its not our fault you wank a character you have an admited bias towards.

It'd be cool if you could actually post some sort of reliable refutation. So far we have three instances of dealing with lightning for OoT Link alone, super sonic whips, ect, and all of it is being rejected on pure conjecture. Where's the bias now?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
So, be a moving target, like that's not already something you're doing in a situation like that? This doesn't change that when Majora chooses to crack the whip is the actual attack and that is when he decides [b]where to attack, an important detail.

The last three are still being downplayed, as well as everything above it. PEople will latch onto and try to drag anything down.

HERE WE GO AGAIN!

Because full speed lightning is consistently in Ganon's power set and it makes no sense for him to intentionally slow the speed electricity travels through the air as that would do nothing other than screw him.

I need a freakin' drink. It'll make this thread more fun.

"IT'S AN ORB. GOHT'S IS SLOW. BARINADE... IS AN ANENAMONE! MAJORA CAN'T CRACK A WHIP, OCCAM'S RAZOR ---> INCREDIBLY CONVOLUTED THEORY. LINK CAN'T REALISTICLY CARRY HIS STUFF. LINK CAN'T PUSH BLOCKS OR MOVE HIS SHIELD."
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Because I editted and I don't want it burried.

It's Mandatory, actually, which does make it a feat, Link has to beat Majora and that cannot be done without dealing with his whips.

It is not 'mandatory' to dodge it. 😬

For all we know Majora just missed. Or maybe Link just tanked it. This is why gameplay isn't accepted in debates.

And then he cracks the whip and hits you where you moved to, GG.

Because its a homing whip right. 😆

It'd be cool if you could actually post some sort of reliable refutation. So far we have three instances of dealing with lightning for OoT Link alone, super sonic whips, ect, and all of it is being rejected on pure conjecture. Where's the bias now?

I believe that would be at the lollinkclub you are a member of.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
So, be a moving target, like that's not already something you're doing in a situation like that? This doesn't change that when Majora chooses to crack the whip is the actual attack and that is when he decides [b]where to attack, an important detail.

The last three are still being downplayed, as well as everything above it. PEople will latch onto and try to drag anything down.

HERE WE GO AGAIN!

Because full speed lightning is consistently in Ganon's power set and it makes no sense for him to intentionally slow the speed electricity travels through the air as that would do nothing other than screw him.

I need a freakin' drink. It'll make this thread more fun.

"IT'S AN ORB. GOHT'S IS SLOW. BARINADE... IS AN ANENAMONE! MAJORA CAN'T CRACK A WHIP, OCCAM'S RAZOR ---> INCREDIBLY CONVOLUTED THEORY. LINK CAN'T REALISTICLY CARRY HIS STUFF. LINK CAN'T PUSH BLOCKS OR MOVE HIS SHIELD."
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.. didn't get the first sentence ^^; Anyway, seeing the attacker move + seeing the whip = something to react to. Even if the tip was hitting him thats not what he'd be reacting to, it would still be the body before the coil.

Not downplay, opinions. But whatever, only the fan stats are being debated on.

OoTs the first game with Dorf, he couldn't of don't any lightning attack prior. Will need another reason and one to say how its defiantly not a charged orb like the two before. O.o having a lil fit there bud?

OoTs the first game with Dorf, he couldn't of don't any lightning attack prior.

The Foursword games have Ganon, with lightning. They're from before OoT.
I believe that would be at the lollinkclub you are a member of.

So your response is "no u".
For all we know Majora just missed. Or maybe Link just tanked it. This is why gameplay isn't accepted in debates.
So the final boss who's tearing the moon from the sky is an incompetant boob who either can't hit Link who ou claim has no super human speed and can't hurt him, even as a 10 year old without the triforce?
But whatever, only the fan stats are being debated on.
This is beyond "debating stats" this is "lolol, no lightning, no reactions, not strong ,not durable" BASED ON NOTHING.

So, yes, I'm having a drink, but not a fit. Just a drink. It'll make this thread more enjoyable.

So the final boss who's tearing the moon from the sky is an incompetant boob who either can't hit Link who ou claim has no super human speed and can't hurt him, even as a 10 year old without the triforce?

Prove to me that Link definately dodged the whip. Do it.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Prove to me that Link definately dodged the whip. Do it.
Occam's Razor. 131

Didn't think so.

I'm sick, dammit. Do I REALLY have to get back in on this thread?

How can Ganon be in the game before if OoT was his first appearance ?__? And that he had the Tridant of power at the time so...

Ya think ive been going on based off nothing? Everything the myself and some of the others above is based on facts. Evidence wise your side is lacking.

@Moo: Im sicker >__> man up

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Awh, you asked nicely. :3
YouTube video
Someone using every abuse in the game to beat Majora's Wrath, lol.

Edit: Check 3:10 for awesomeness.


YouTube video
3:30
YouTube video
Link seeking lightning.
YouTube video
Ganondorf using lightning.

There's a case to be made on consistency alone. 😐

How can Ganon be in the game before if OoT was his first appearance ?__? And that he had the Tridant of power at the time so...

Ya think ive been going on based off nothing? Everything the myself and some of the others above is based on facts. Evidence wise your side is lacking.


Until OoT aLttP was his first appearance, and your side has no evidence other than speculated conjecture based on either gameplay speed or mechanics. >_> Ganon still has the Trident in OoT, his phantom uses it, and he turns it into the swords when he becomes Ganon. Note he still has it in all of the games after OoT, as well.

Yeah, you aren't sicker.

Who wants to catch me up to speed so that I don't have to read? 😄

Scream is talking about Majoras whips again.

I saw that. He slapped the Occam's Razor argument back in your face pretty nicely.

You actually think that anyone whos faced a whip uses has supersonic reactions 😐 many things wrong with that. Simple aim dodging is obvious (aims, flashes and shoots where he was) for the second and not too sure what im looking at in the 3rd. [skimmed it]

Whip clip proving that its the very end, proving that its a charged orb like he's shown twice before etc. Urrm that's not the trident of power.. nor does Dorf use it for his attacks.

A flu's nothing, suck it up.

K, go pick a fight with Adam Winrich, see if you can avoid getting whipped. I bet you 100$ you can't avoid shit. 😐

The "very" end of a 40 foot whip is quite large, and Majora doesn't need to aim until he cracks. That was the trident of Power that his phantom had. At no point during FSA does his lose it and he still has it in aLttP.

The "orb" in the cutscene moves too fast to see, are you going to argue the other "orbs" don't? Especially one is just the representation of lightning and we know Ganon can use lightning and he would have to conciously slow it down?

Originally posted by BloodRain
You actually think that anyone whos faced a whip uses has supersonic reactions 😐 many things wrong with that. Simple aim dodging is obvious (aims, flashes and shoots where he was) for the second and not too sure what im looking at in the 3rd. [skimmed it]

Whip clip proving that its the very end, proving that its a charged orb like he's shown twice before etc. Urrm that's not the trident of power.. nor does Dorf use it for his attacks.

A flu's nothing, suck it up.

Anyone with skill in the whip can fix a dodged strike with a slight adjustment in their swing arc. Learn a little about it, the whip is a great weapon. And don't go telling me that I'm assuming Majora is a whip master. Because I believe this Occam's Razor thing would apply. Majora wouldn't use throwing knives if he wasn't good at it, you know. Similar idea and whatnot.

link-rape

Aggressive flu is aggressive. I would suck it up, but that's nasty. It's vomit and diarrhea. It came out of me for a reason, you know.

AAAAUGH, damnit, Moo. Gross. D:

Yeesh.