Originally posted by NephthysTrying to have your cake and eat it, too, now? No. You're not downplaying EVERY aspect of everything. 😐 If it's a ball, it has mass. Period. You cannot assume it's not lightning but a ball ,but that the ball has no mass, and blah blah blah on and on for assumption after assumption to try to get the answer you want. -.- SO. Is it a ball, or is it lightning?
I'll reply tomorrow, but SP, its not a ball its a ball of energy/magic. So it has very little mass.
Originally posted by NephthysBecause in order to be thrown any distance an object requires mass to have innertia.
Why can't it be thrown?
FYI, Electricity does have mass, electrons. So, in order for this ball to contain proper innertia to be thrown, and be powerful enough to destroy stone, would be significantly greater than a regular lightning bolt in mass, and thus be thrown, yes?
3000kg at 26m/s can destroy two rooms. x10 and as an explosions and itd be the damage that rail gun does aka a building.
By those numbers a 10-50 tonners punch would feel like a weak punch to us. Lloyd is a min 10 tonner so while Link'd take his punches will little care his blades will be another thing.
Ahhh shiiii- auto spelling -,- downplay? Its the same argument thats been going on for pages. What i meant was that even though its power output is completly different to a bolts its still treated as one in all other aspects.
Hey if you want to find out how much a ball or electricity, energy and magic weight (all three for consistancy:3) then go for it. But doubt youll find much.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Because in order to be thrown any distance an object requires mass to have innertia.FYI, Electricity does have mass, electrons. So, in order for this ball to contain proper innertia to be thrown, and be powerful enough to destroy stone, would be significantly greater than a regular lightning bolt in mass, and thus be thrown, yes?
Or maybe he throws them with ****ing magic. 😬
Can you actually cite a van at 3000 kg? That's 6600 pounds. 😐
By those numbers a 10-50 tonners punch would feel like a weak punch to us. Lloyd is a min 10 tonner so while Link'd take his punches will little care his blades will be another thing.😐 No. 10 tons of strength is not enough if you saw the above numbers. Period. Link would be invulnerable to strikes that comparatively weak, keep in mind the above numbers also assume Ganon threw a baseball at Link's sword, rather than striking it with his own. 😬 They're hilariously conservative.
Hey if you want to find out how much a ball or electricity, energy and magic weight (all three for consistancy:3) then go for it. But doubt youll find much.I'm already on it, boyo. 131
What i meant was that even though its power output is completly different to a bolts its still treated as one in all other aspects.AWH YEAH. So, it arcs through the air how fast? 131 I'm thinking the speed of a bolt. 😛
Originally posted by Nephthys
Or maybe he throws them with ****ing magic. 😬
😐 Wut?
Originally posted by BloodRainI've done more ridiculous things in my life than that. haermm
3-4tons if it was empty, yeah.No I'm talking my numbers. 20-100x peak is 10-50 ton strength, Lloyd scrapes that with fists alone., in other words it won't be much but his punch will be felt. If were talking blade resistance..... a fair chance indeed.
O.o how are ya gonna find the weight of magic?
Lloyd is at 10 tons with his fists, neat, Link was unhurt by 6000+ tons of force. Lloyd's swords will not magnify his blows 600 times, swords don't do that, and if they did, he would be doing enough damage to.. make Link annoyed? 😬 Link still wasn't hurt by this.
This is assuming Ganon threw a ball, not the actual block, which would be better.
I'VE SLIPPED OFF THE DEEP END, NOW! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
Yeah, but.. Wat? K, so a MJ going into Link is still significantly less than has no phased him in the past. mmm
K, so investigating the energy of an electron, and things, and how many it would take to match the power of Ganon's attacks. THIS IS GOING TO BE INCREDIBLY FUN. 😐
Alright, to melt a 6x6x6 stone block would take
19 399 238 480.16 joules. AKA 19.4 gigajoules.
We now know the energy of one of Ganondorf's attacks. (Eat it, Volt. You're a wimp, that's a MEGAWATT DAY+)
Did I mention Ganon backhands these? He keeps dat pimp hand strong, man.
NOW, the energy of a single electron:
1.60217653×10^ −19 So, to figure out how many electrons it would take:
19 399 238 480.16 / 1.60217653×10^−19. YEY. (0.000000000000000000160217653)
THIS EQUALS: *inputs into calculator, hopes for best*
121 080 530 871 089 467 276 118 443 702.33 ELECTRONS.
EACH WEIGHS:
0.000000000000000000000000000910956 grams.
THIS COMES TO...
What the ****? 😐
11029903.6 grams
IE... 11 029 .9036 KILOgrams
....
....
Wat. 😐
I'm gonna double check my numbers. haermm
Edit: AND YOU DOUBTED ME, AURA. Also, nope, numbers check out. Holy shit. 😐 Playing tennis with an eleven thousand kilogram ball? That's 12.132 tons. 😐
EDIT EDIT: TWELVE TON LIGHTNING BOLTS!?! AAAAAAAUUGH!
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Alright, to melt a 6x6x6 stone block would take19 399 238 480.16 joules. AKA 19.4 gigajoules.
We now know the energy of one of Ganondorf's attacks. (Eat it, Volt. You're a wimp, that's a MEGAWATT DAY+)
Did I mention Ganon backhands these? He keeps dat pimp hand strong, man.
NOW, the energy of a single electron:
1.60217653×10^ −19 So, to figure out how many electrons it would take:
19 399 238 480.16 / 1.60217653×10^−19. YEY. (0.000000000000000000160217653)
THIS EQUALS: *inputs into calculator, hopes for best*
121 080 530 871 089 467 276 118 443 702.33 ELECTRONS.
EACH WEIGHS:
0.000000000000000000000000000910956 grams.
THIS COMES TO...
What the ****? 😐
11029903.6 grams
IE... 11 029 .9036 KILOgrams
....
....
Wat. 😐I'm gonna double check my numbers. haermm
Edit: AND YOU DOUBTED ME, AURA. Also, nope, numbers check out. Holy shit. 😐 Playing tennis with an eleven thousand kilogram ball? That's 12.132 tons. 😐
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