Originally posted by TheAuraAngelIt was admittedly an estimation, the blocks are about as big as Link is tall, maybe bigger...
Yeah......2 things:
1. How do you know the blocks it melts are 6x6x6?
2. What does this prove again?
I HAVE NO IDEA. EVERYTHING I KNOW IS A LIE. TWELVE TON LIGHTNING BOLTS!? FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU-
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
It was admittedly an estimation, the blocks are about as big as Link is tall, maybe bigger...I HAVE NO IDEA. EVERYTHING I KNOW IS A LIE. TWELVE TON LIGHTNING BOLTS!? FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU-
Well the width(I can't remember the other term cause I haven't had math in months) is off. We see that when Ganon punches the floor and the blocks are gone.
You know what is really gonna suck? When BloodRain argues against it and you'll have to do it all over again. 😛
Originally posted by TheAuraAngelIf it's half as thick that reduces everything by 50%, easy math to do.
Well the width(I can't remember the other term cause I haven't had math in months) is off. We see that when Ganon punches the floor and the blocks are gone.You know what is really gonna suck? When BloodRain argues against it and you'll have to do it all over again. 😛
IE, 6 ton lightning bolts at 9.5 gigajoules!
STILL. WUT. 😐
Edit: If BR wants to do the math himself he's welcome to. haermm I'll share the pain.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
If it's half as thick that reduces everything by 50%, easy math to do.IE, 6 ton lightning bolts at 9.5 gigajoules!
STILL. WUT. 😐
Edit: If BR wants to do the math himself he's welcome to. haermm I'll share the pain.
So something that can exerts 9.5 gigajoules! of force can stun Ganondorf?
He really won't have to put that much effort it. You did the work for him. Now to nitpick.
Originally posted by linkownsyousobs
12 ton lightning bolts?.... 😐I wanna say more but my rides here... gotta go.
Bring me my shit!
Originally posted by TheAuraAngelkeep in mind all the kinetic energy it carries! haermm holy shit this is messed up.
So something that can exerts 9.5 gigajoules! of force can stun Ganondorf?He really won't have to put that much effort it. You did the work for him. Now to nitpick.
Bring me my shit!
And ..Awwwh, nitpick? :c
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
keep in mind all the kinetic energy it carries! haermm holy shit this is messed up.And ..Awwwh, nitpick? :c
The kinetic energy has no effect on the floor? 😮
Yes. Like I did with the width. And I suck at my unless I'm in a classroom, so BR should be far more adept at nitpicking than I.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngelThe floor is gone, not simply moved or crushed but destroyed, lol.
The kinetic energy has no effect on the floor? 😮Yes. Like I did with the width. And I suck at my unless I'm in a classroom, so BR should be far more adept at nitpicking than I.
EVERYTHING IS A LIE. 6 ton lightning bolts. That's... "wat" in spades. I'm still recovering. 😐
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
It's only midnight, cannot sleep yet. :C And wat, teleport lightning?
It was meant to teleport Link away to a special place where Ganondorf could extract the ToC. Little did Ganondorf know that it would not work on Link's magic hat or Ganon's cape, so it just shocked them.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Indeed you did. You said....Screw it, I'm gonna just start quoting you now. You used the fact that is killed Corrine as proof that the lightning is strong, even though we have no clue how durable Corrine is. And yes, Several bolts of lightning>1 since we see those several emit an energy wave capable of knocking several characters back. No, it's not a durability feat since he blocked it. It's not a strength feat because he did nothing that was really strong. And yes, stupid characters can beat smart ones, but it doesn't change the fact that Link's intelligence is to his advantage.Isn't that similar to the He can but he never tried argument that you're trying to discredit me with? If a character can throw something that ways several tons, then yes his arms would be quite powerful. You know how you crush a marble? With your hands, which is fact are different from your arms. Striking force you don't need any feats, just a teeny tiny bit of logic. If Link can lift and toss something that weighs several tons with his arms, how damaging would a sword strike be from him? Gauntlets increase his arm strength, his sword strikes are based around arm strength. Put 2 and 2 together my good man.
That is nowhere implied in my post. I never said it is strong because it killed Corrine, nor I talked about any durability. You're saying all of that. You on the other hand said she's weak since there is not evidence to prove the contrary, so way to go for ya. Read my posts, for me she is not important. But those bolts weren't charged up by Volt, were they? They were suddenly released. The ones Lloyd blocked yes, they were. 1 bolt charged up > 1 bolt don't charged up. And yeah, the powerful shockwave, that shows how strong Volt is. And Lloyd effortlessly parried not one, but two of his attacks which also released electric shockwaves when they made contact with him. So yeah, what he deflected was indeed strong. 😐
No. Lloyd parried a bolt single handed with no effort, he didn't even counter-attacked it, he simply tanked it with his arm. Imagine by putting effort on a two-handed slash. He has the strength and speed needed for that purpose. Link on the other hand hasn't shown to be capable of slashing through a solid rock with his sword, simply lifting it, which is the true purpose of the GGs, and which is not the same. No, mate, try putting a little marble ball on a table and then try punching it using your arm's strength, you won't break it not matter if you're capable of lifting a pile of bricks which weight way more. While I won't disagree about Link receiving at least a boost of strength for his attacks, even tough that's still vague and the game has no reference to it whatsoever... I would disagree with your argument about him slashing and cutting through rocks. :/
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Have you ever seen anything that indicates otherwise? You arrogantly assume that the lightning is weak because it has not done anything except stun Ganondorf. And despite my attempts to actually prove why that is impressive, you ignorantly ignore it because it hasn't done anything else. My ignorance is at least justified because you refuse, no, you [b]Can't can't give me something to make me not ignorant. I've at the least, given you several reasons the LLLC would despite my obvious lack of knowledge of Zelda. And until you can prove how he destroyed that village, something even Tac admits is impossible since it's not shown, then I don't care. So drop the ninja village stuff. You asked Tac to create this thread? Why? What gain do you get? Did you honestly just want to fight over the lightning feat? I have half a mind to troll you right now. Tac at the very least seems interested in the thread rather than discrediting Link.It is? Kindly find a video to prove that. And that art proves me wrong how exactly? I am fully aware of Tac's intentions and will fully discuss the usefulness of Link's items when everything is in shape. And yes, Link has good arm strength feat. Glad you agree. [/B]
Energy balls*. I never said they were weak, you are saying they are OMGWTF powerful. I'm just describing what they does, stunning no other than its own caster for a few seconds, so you can actually harm him and being reflected by sword's swings and blocked by shields. Which one of those facts are incorrect? You don't care if Volt destroyed a village full of ninja warriors, huh? So you refute a fact by saying you do not care? Tac said Volt destroyed that ninja girl's village full of other ninja warriors to show Volt's power, thus Lloyd's, why else he would brought that up? It isn't 100% relevant to know HOW he did it, just that... with his powers, he did it.
Zeldapedia says otherwise, check it out. Well, it showed Link cannot make his items the size of a coin and magically switch them as he does in gameplay.
No, mate, try putting a little marble ball on a table and then try punching it using your arm's strength, you won't break it not matter if you're capable of lifting a pile of bricks which weight way more. While I won't disagree about Link receiving at least a boost of strength for his attacks, even tough that's still vague and the game has no reference to it whatsoever... I would disagree with your argument about him slashing and cutting through rocks. :/You really misunderstand the massive shift in scale, here. 😐
The strength required to lift bricks is much less than required to throw a massive pillar, yes, human strength is typicly insufficient to crush a marble... But Once you're strong enough to throw hundreds of tons, it'll crumble in your hand. Slashing through stone at that point is easy. Link is class 100+, you need to realise what that means.
This... This thread is so far gone I don't know if I can bring it back.
Occam's Razor is going to be getting dull by the end of this.
You guys trying to apply math and physics to a fantasy video game is beyond ridiculous. Here's another alternative. The developers had stuff happen. The end.
You really think the devs sat down at a table and tried to work out the math behind how much of an ark the magic ball should have if it had a certain weight? You know a simpler explanation? The devs made a magic ball and had it thrown at Link. I bet there was one guy in the back who was all like "Let's figure out the weight so we can make sure the ball arches correctly. Cuz you know... nothing can be thrown without weight." 😱
glare
And then he was likely fired.
Mathing this is useless. Because between:
Mathematical properties being applied to a N64 fantasy game about magic wish granting triangles.
and:
The developers had Ganon do some magic sh*t.
Occam's razor is always going to say the second one is the more logical answer.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Your lack of understanding of physics is showing.In order to tear a sword from the hand of someone with Link's strength you need to put them under a [b]LOT
of force. 😐 The force needs to act on Link before before Link lets go, otherwise why is he letting go if there's not a pile of force acting on him? [/B]
The instant the force becomes more than the hand can handle it will let go of the sword. Harming no other part of his body.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
That he was the only one supporting the feat.
My bad. I forgot about you. 😮
The instant the force becomes more than the hand can handle it will let go of the sword. Harming no other part of his body.
Edit: no, really, I cannot begin to explain it. 😐
Well, I can try:
1. That's not an argument, since the force required to take the sword from Link's hand already puts him beyond being harmed by Lloyd.
2. Energy doesn't just incrementally build up until you say "when". 😐 Go stand next to some train tracks, and try to stop a viarail with your hand. (It'll be easier than blocking Ganon's sword). Come back and tell me if you broke your arm, or your arm just folded when it decided it'd reached it's limit. haermm
You seriously have no understanding of physics, huh? 😬
K, so a MJ going into Link is still significantly less than has no phased him in the past.
Ahh dammit do I have to? :c Damn you both.
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Part way in luckily before the complex stuff and looking for things I realised... whats the point again? .~.
Note: Master Swords main power is to repel evil and evil 'magic'. Does that suggest that the attack is a magic orb? I wont say, but I will stand here nodding like a headbanger.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
That he was the only one supporting the feat.
When was the past instance?Normally you're a bit more thorough in reading my posts. mmm Perhaps you /are/ ill.
All that math I did concerning baseballs and whatnot? It was about Link attempting to block Ganon's attack before the final battle. If Ganon threw a baseball at the sword, Link would still be too durable for Lloyd to hurt. -NOD OF THUNDER-
This will be my new theme. mmm
But yes. I'm not entirely sure there is a point other than my need to codify, investigate, formulate, record, and notate all of Link and Ganon's feats in minute physical detail. Regardless of whether Ganon's attack's speed or status as a bolt or ball, it would have weight. This is kind of neat.