Originally posted by tkitna
This is correct, but people refuse to read for some reason. Comics are more than just looking at the pictures.
Again you are ignoring the fact that DS didn't want to be taken in and if he did he would have got killed and he pulled knife. People really need to stop selecting bits of info they like.
Originally posted by Deadline
Again you are ignoring the fact that DS didn't want to be taken in and if he did he would have got killed and he pulled knife. People really need to stop selecting bits of info they like.
Whatever. I dont care enough to break the whole thing down. I took from it a DS that wasnt trying to kill BT. He fought just hard enough to not be caught and it bit him in the rearend. He talked to BT throughout the fight like he was his friend. The knife was used as an example. One to tell Ben he sucked at being a mercenary and two to show him he was serious enough at not being caught to actually use it. I dont know, it doesnt appear to me that Slade was fully into that fight. Do you think he gave 100%?
Regardless, nothing in that fight will change the fact that Rogers takes a majority.
Originally posted by Deadline
Stop acting like your opinion is fact. At least be polite and entertain the possibility you could be wrong. Then I'll stop giving you a hard time.
Again with the whiny bullshit.
While it may be common practice (and even expected) for you to chime into threads where you have next to no utter idea as to what you're talking about... Me? When I give an opinion it's typically informed.
When I'm giving an opinion that isn't, I typically admit that outright...
But with this thread in particular.... My opinion is not fact and I'm not saying that it is as your crybaby bullshit would have people believe, but it IS based on facts... like Cap being surrounded by a higher calibur of MA's in Marvel (compared to DC) and STILL being heads and shoulders above them, Cap having better showings against tougher opponents who are not holding back, Cap having multiple statistical advantages physiologically, an edge in experience, etc etc...
The notion that BT wins is based off what?
I've been VERY polite in asking for one friggin reason to assume that BT would win this fight... I haven't been given one.. just conjecture that he's more skilled because he's beaten up Batman Pre Crisis and took it to a trashed up Deathstroke, after blindsiding him while DS wasn't invested in the fight... It's not convincing in the least....
And you? Pathetic as usual.... As Srank already called your fairy butt out on. You cry at us for thinking we're right but you automatically ALWAYS assume we're wrong... even in threads where you supposedly agree with us.
You STILL come in like a little prat to argue against me just for argument's sake. Your obsession with me is the stuff of legend.
Me? I just think it's funny..... "Im in your head!" 😈
Originally posted by Prep-Man
DC has just as many high calibur MA than Marvel. It's pretty equal, IMO. Now if you include the 4 (possibly 5) Karate Kid's, DC would win a MA war.
No.
This is a pretty simple concept. Shang-Chi or Iron Fist would beat anyone of DC's street level martial arts. And that is if we just consider skill and skill alone, if we include their other abilities it becomes even more lopsided. Marvel has several character who are established as being more skilled than either of those two. Those are just facts. Marvels martial arts hierarchy goes to eleven, DC's peaks at 10. That should be clear as glass to anyone with even a passing understanding of these characters.
Originally posted by Prep-Man
Yeah, like IF can beat KK. I wouldn't give Shang good odds against Batgirl or Constantine, either.
The only KK, Iron Fist can't beat is PC Karate Kid who no longer exists and is of as much relevance to a discussion about fighters in current DC as PC Superman is.
With chi ampage Shang-Chi would demolish Batgirl or Drakon, without it he still takes the majority.
Originally posted by srankmissingninWith chi ampage Shang-Chi would demolish Batgirl or Drakon, without it he still takes the majority.
That's a strong bias if I ever seen any.
Shang, Batgirl, Batman, Shiva, Daredevil, Elektra or all about the same level and either could take the other with just barely winning.
Originally posted by srankmissingninPretty much.
No.This is a pretty simple concept. Shang-Chi or Iron Fist would beat [b]anyone
of DC's street level martial arts. And that is if we just consider skill and skill alone, if we include their other abilities it becomes even more lopsided. Marvel has several character who are established as being more skilled than either of those two. Those are just facts. Marvels martial arts hierarchy goes to eleven, DC's peaks at 10. That should be clear as glass to anyone with even a passing understanding of these characters. [/B]
I mean you could bump down a number of tiers to the guys like Moon Knight, Cat, Zaran, or Silver Samurai and find contenders for DC top 10 spotters. 😬
Isn't that the way it's always been? Marvel's street levels being more powerful than DC while DC's heavy hitters are typically more powerful/versatile than Marvel's?
Don't forget guys like Dick, Batman, Shiva, Cass, Val, Judomaster, Manhunter, Bronze, Drakon, White Canary, Connor, etc... Marvel has the edge in stats, because of outside sources like SS or herbs, but they aren't more skilled.
Besides, DC has Val, who is the best western martial artist in comics. Period.
And Judomaster who has one of the BEST wills in comics. She can't be touched.
Wolverine's resisted the power of the pheonix on pure will power.
I haven't forgotten them, but the fact that Chi basically beats en masse people who are analogs of Batman and his skillset and does so WITHOUT the amping is a major telling point here...
As Srank said, there are several people who are above his level even given the chi amping. 😬