Bronze Tiger vs Steve Rogers: H2H Only

Originally posted by srankmissingnin

Slade is a piss pour fighter. Both Winter Green and Addie were supposed to be more skilled than he was in their prime, and neither of them is Batman.

Oh I see so DS aint shit now? When did this happen? Like I said hes beaten Batman three times. Please don't argue that DS didn't beat him here.

http://s915.photobucket.com/albums/ac358/Deathstroke91/?action=view&current=Detective710-05.jpg

Don't do it.

Originally posted by tkitna
Anybody else look at these scans and feel that Slade wasnt really threatened at all by Bronze Tiger?

Didnt you see the bit where BT hurt him with a kick and DS had to pull a knife? 😕

Originally posted by Deadline
Oh I see so DS aint shit now? When did this happen? Like I said hes beaten Batman three times. Please don't argue that DS didn't beat him here.

http://s915.photobucket.com/albums/ac358/Deathstroke91/?action=view&current=Detective710-05.jpg

Don't do it.

Didnt you see the bit where BT hurt him with a kick and DS had to pull a knife? 😕

Or that fact that Slade hit Tiger with some hard shots and Tiger didn't even go down. He landed right back on his feet and got right back on the attack. If Slade was weaken in that fight. How weak do people think he was? Imo a weaken Deathstroke is still far more powerful than Bronze Tiger.

I'm too lazy to read through this thread. Are people actually debating Bronze Tiger beating Rogers? I really hope not.

Roger's has the clear stat advantage -in particular when it comes to stamina- and is on a level I've never seen Bronze Tiger surpass or even reach in regards to hand to hand skill.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
If Slade was weaken in that fight. How weak do people think he was?

I think its the bit where BT says DS is hurt, but people seem to be missing the fact that BT kicked him there earlier on. facepalm

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm too lazy to read through this thread. Are people actually debating Bronze Tiger beating Rogers? I really hope not.

Roger's has the clear stat advantage -in particular when it comes to stamina- and is on a level I've never seen Bronze Tiger surpass or even reach in regards to hand to hand skill.

Hes beaten Batman, done well against Deathstroke? I'm not arguing for the majority but he can get least 2/10. Some people are arguing he won't get any, absurd.

Originally posted by Deadline
I think its the bit where BT says DS is hurt, but people seem to be missing the fact that BT kicked him there earlier on. facepalm

Hes beaten Batman, done well against Deathstroke? I'm not arguing for the majority but he can get least 2/10. Some people are arguing he won't get any, absurd.

2/10 is really no different from what the other are saying though. Imo 2/10 it is a very low percentage for someone of Bronze Tiger's skill range. Batman (Bruce) could archive more than that against Steve.

I think he could get more than 2/10, maybe as much as 4/10, but Steve does take the majority due to stats.

Originally posted by Q99
I think he could get more than 2/10, maybe as much as 4/10, but Steve does take the majority due to stats.

That's very reasonable. I personally can go with either man wining the majority. I'd even give it 5/10 split. My problem is with poster who ride Steve Rogers into the ground. It's very annoying

Originally posted by Marvelknight
2/10 is really no different from what the other are saying though. Imo 2/10 it is a very low percentage for someone of Bronze Tiger's skill range. Batman (Bruce) could archive more than that against Steve.

People are arguing he doesn't get any wins and will be ****ed after 3-5mins, that sux. You're kinda missing my point I could argue that BT could lose 10/10, not because he sux but because Cap has more stamina. Every single fight that they have will go the distance but because Cap has more stamina he will win eventually.

However you could even argue that BT could win 6/10 he did well against Deathstroke who is similar to Cap and it doesnt matter wether DS is enhanced BT is skilled enough to put him down before stamina becomes a serious issue.

Originally posted by Deadline
People are arguing he doesn't get any wins and will be ****ed after 3-5mins, that sux. You're kinda missing my point I could argue that BT could lose 10/10, not because he sux but because Cap has more stamina. Every single fight that they have will go the distance but because Cap has more stamina he will win eventually.

However you could even argue that BT could win 6/10 he did well against Deathstroke who is similar to Cap and it doesnt matter wether DS is enhanced BT is skilled enough to put him down before stamina becomes a serious issue.

That's true. It's a matter of opinion and one own perspective.

And don't get me wrong, Captain America should get all the respect in the world. But man I've never had to deal with this level of underestimating one character in favor for another.

If I came and said Batman or anyone could beat Steve 10/10. They would've nailed me to the cross (if I let them).

I think you are completely off you rocker.

Look at all of the Daredevil vs Punisher fights that have taken place over the years. Matt out classes Punisher in almost every way, yet their fights are some of the best, most even fights in comics. Easily the best representation fights between two heroes, because unlike most of the rest they are often going full bore and trying to but the other down for the 10 count. DD is stronger, he is faster and he is more skilled... but Punisher still goes the distance. Every. Single. Time. Why? Because Frank's stamina and damage soak are better than Daredevils. Considerably better. Cap is stronger/faster/more skilled than Turner AND he has much better damage soak / stamina. Open your eyes. This is a non fight.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I think you are completely off you rocker.

Look at all of the Daredevil vs Punisher fights that have taken place over the years. Matt out classes Punisher in almost every way, yet their fights are some of the best, most even fights in comics. Easily the best representation fights between two heroes, because unlike most of the rest they are often going full bore and trying to but the other down for the 10 count. DD is stronger, he is faster and he is more skilled... but Punisher still goes the distance. Every. Single. Time. Why? Because Frank's stamina and damage soak are better than Daredevils. Considerably better. Cap is stronger/faster/more skilled than Turner AND he has much better damage soak / stamina. Open your eyes. This is a non fight.

Look @##hole. There's nothing wrong with me, my reasoning or my common sense. Do you know anything about Bronze Tiger, when making such assumptions about him? If not, this debate is over.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
That's true. It's a matter of opinion and one own perspective.

And don't get me wrong, Captain America should get all the respect in the world. But man I've never had to deal with this level of underestimating one character in favor for another.

I know how you feel.

Originally posted by Marvelknight

If I came and said Batman or anyone could beat Steve 10/10. They would've nailed me to the cross (if I let them).

But Batman doesn't have more stamina than Cap has...Cap has been shown to have more stamina than superhumans.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I think you are completely off you rocker.

Look at all of the Daredevil vs Punisher fights that have taken place over the years. Matt out classes Punisher in almost every way, yet their fights are some of the best, most even fights in comics. Easily the best representation fights between two heroes, because unlike most of the rest they are often going full bore and trying to but the other down for the 10 count. DD is stronger, he is faster and he is more skilled... but Punisher still goes the distance. Every. Single. Time. Why? Because Frank's stamina and damage soak are better than Daredevils. Considerably better. Cap is stronger/faster/more skilled than Turner AND he has much better damage soak / stamina. Open your eyes. This is a non fight.

It could be argued that BT has more skill, it doesn't have to go the distance. DS has more stamina than BT but BT hurt hi early in the fight.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
Look @##hole. There's nothing wrong with me, my reasoning or my common sense. Do you know anything about Bronze Tiger, when making such assumptions about him? If not, this debate is over.

I know everything about Bronze Tiger, there isn't a lot to know he has less than 200 appearances. A person could read everyone of his appearances in a single afternoon if they had the time. Just to save you the time here I have read EVERY appearance of EVERY street level MA, and the the high profiles ones. I have the internet, it isn't very hard to do.

I don't want any trouble so forget it. I hope my edit is in time. All I'm saying is I hope you got scans srank.

Originally posted by Deadline
It could be argued that BT has more skill, it doesn't have to go the distance. DS has more stamina than BT but BT hurt hi early in the fight.

It could be argued, just not successfully.

Turner ambushed Slade, Slade wasn't really even trying to fight him, and he still couldn't put him down. It's only impressive if we ignore the context of the "fight"

Originally posted by Deadline
I don't want any trouble so forget it. I hope my edit is in time. All I'm saying is I hope you got scans srank.

What do you want scans of? Punisher vs Daredevil?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
It could be argued, just not successfully.

Turner ambushed Slade, Slade wasn't really even trying to fight him, and he still couldn't put him down. It's only impressive if we ignore the context of the "fight"

He was ambushed for the whole fight. DS was trying to fight him, I see what you mean but you're kinda exaggerating.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
What do you want scans of? Punisher vs Daredevil?

Nevermind.

Originally posted by Deadline
He was ambushed for the whole fight. DS was trying to fight him, I see what you mean but you're kinda exaggerating.

Nevermind.

I'm going to paraphrase but Slade was like "Listen BT, it's not what you think. Stop fighting and listen," and Bronze Tiger was like "You're a traitor! KIEAYYYYAA!"

Sorry, I didn't cite anything so I'm not sure what scans you are after.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I'm going to paraphrase but Slade was like "Listen BT, it's not what you think. Stop fighting and listen," and Bronze Tiger was like "You're a traitor! KIEAYYYYAA!"

I don't think thats entirely accurate, yea he wanted him to listen but he was willing to beat him up, he even pulled a knife. So yes thats an exaggeration. You're making it sound like he was begging him.

Originally posted by Deadline
I don't think thats entirely accurate, yea he wanted him to listen but he was willing to beat him up, he even pulled a knife. So yes thats an exaggeration.

He was fighting back but he wasn't nearly as invested in the fight as Bronze Tiger.

EDIT: Just saw your edit, he wasn't begging with him, he was reasoning with him. Which I think is much more than a semantic distinction.