Cassandra Cain Vs Midnighter

Started by jinzin13 pages

Originally posted by Deadline
You dont need a laundry list, you need enough.

Don't remember arguing with you with the wolverine bullet in the brain thingy.

"enough"

Such as?

Originally posted by jinzin
"enough"

Such as?

Look man just scroll back.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Bringing your inane rheteoric to the forefront of our conversation simply reveals the disingenuity of your request. We're arguing about evidence in the first instance. You say it's invalid, arbitrarily, to the same extent as Wolverine's skeleton climbing out of a molten steel vat.

You then sit on your hands and facetiously ask for more evidence in the second instance to bolster the evidence in the first instance. We give it to you. You then PRETEND to be an arbiter over what evidence in the second instance is to qualify your arbitrary conclusions over the validity over what eivdence is in the first instance is.

Do you really think your fake catch-22 stands up at all? Here's a coherent analogy: You're the criminal. Someone produces the smoking gun. You reject the smoking gun and ask for other evidence. Someone ends up producing the bloody knife. You reject the bloody knife and ask for other evidence.

So on. And so forth. What don't you get? That I don't see through your utterly transparent trolling? That anybody here doesn't get the joke that you don't give a crap about evidence and will twist any facts no matter how inane to pretend like I've not given you evidnce int he first, let alone, second instance?

You're a troll. We get it. We've gotten over it. Some of us are beginning to question whether you've gotten over that fact.[

You are a riot.

There is nothing arbitrary about it. I asked for evidence that supports the notion that Midnighter is strong enough to redirect a missile. What do you provide me? You cited Midnighter blitzing some fodder, Midnighter tanking a punch that knocked him 100 yards, Midnighter spitting his tooth through a pillar and Midnighter bending a rail road track. Please, for the love of god please, tell me which of those feats do you thin and credibility to Midnighter having the strength required to redirect a missile.

I'm not using rhetoric to twist and distort your points, that is your game not mine, and frankly your argument is so weak that it isn't necessary. I've ask for evidence that supports someone being able to strong enough to redirect a missile, and you've done the equivalent of providing evidence of someone tanking a handgun bullet when I asked for proof they could tank a missile.

Originally posted by Deadline
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Are you OnDumbG0's yes man or are you my no man?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Why... it'd be like Wolverine's skeleton climbing out of a molten steel vat!!!!1 So there!!!1
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Originally posted by srankmissingnin
You are a riot.

There is nothing arbitrary about it. I asked for evidence

When did you convince us that you even care about evidence?

Seriously? You take evidence of Midnighter tearing steel train rails and pretend that Daredevil does that sh1t. You take evidence that Midnighter is so strong, he can actually spit his teeth out with the force of a high-caliber round and pretend that Batman can do the same. You take Midnighter's double fist-fighting Apollo or him actually fighting the rogue Doctor and pretend Punisher could burst Superman-lite's eardrums or get kicked across a landscape unphased.

The phuck you care about evidence? This is like me showing you Wolverine stabbing his own brain through his eyes and you pretending that Stryfe used his tk to give him the ensuing brain damage.

You actually caring about evidence which disproves your position... why... that'd be like Wolverine's skeleton climbing out of a molten steel vat. So there.

I love both characters, but Midnighter takes it fairly easily.

Originally posted by Deadline
Look man just scroll back.

saw what he posted.... I didn't see comparible strength feats. 😕

Getting punched a good distance is not some feat of strength.
Hurting tough opponents with skilled blows is not a feat of strength.
Spitting a tooth out like a bullet..... Yyyyyeah that could be a feat of strength I suppose, or it could be a goofy skill feat ala bullseye.

The rail tracks is a definite strength feat but one that fits into the 2/3 ton category that he already falls into...

So either
A.) The tank shell kick was a feat that also sits in the 2/3 ton category by opinion, and thus according with MNer and his ability.

B.)The tank shell kick is a feat greatly outstripping 2/3 tons of strength and puts MNer into a higher category of strength which suggests he has other feats of similar nature to support it.
OR
C.) The tank shell kick is a feat that greatly outstrips the 2/3 tons strength class that MNer falls into and is thus a product of PIS if it isn't one of his supercomputer brain capacity.

You can take your pick which.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Seriously? You take evidence of Midnighter tearing steel train rails and pretend that Daredevil does that sh1t. You take evidence that Midnighter is so strong, he can actually spit his teeth out with the force of a high-caliber round and pretend that Batman can do the same. You take Midnighter's double fist-fighting Apollo and the rogue Doctor and pretend Punisher could burst Superman-lite's eardrums and get kicked across a landscape unphased.

Midnighter bending a rail road track is a class 2 feat. Has Daredevil replicated it? No, but if he did it wouldn't be a huge stretch, he already has some comparable strength feats, and in the big picture bending a section or track isn't that extraordinary of a feat. Captain America and Black Panther of several feats of equivalency. I never said Batman could spit his tooth with the force of a bullet, nice try though I guess.. Batman has done the same thing to Wonder Woman... and Wonder Woman is actually Superman lite unlike Apollo. Punisher was thrown hundreds of feet into the air, came down on the side of a sky scrapper, fell of the sky scrapper, got hit by a car when he landed... and he kept fighting like it was nothing, Shang-Chi's been upper cut thousand of feet into the air and wasn't koed when he landed.

Midnighter spiting his tooth and redirecting the missile are PIS. The rest have been replicated or matched by the top streets.

You showed evidence of Wolverine being mind controlled and stabbed in the eyes. Brain damage as a result of Stryfe is a much likelier answer than he stabbed himself through his Adamantium skull... but you like to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Midnighter bending a rail road track is a class 2 feat. Has Daredevil replicated it? No, but if he did it wouldn't be a huge stretch
Are you on drugs? That's so stupid to think... #$%^... that'd be like Wolverine's skeleton climbing out of a molten steel vat!!!!!11

Give me evidence that Daredevil can do such a thing. All I ask is for evidence. Not wild assertions and your hoodlywink politics. And trust me. I'll totally treat your evidence in a fair, objective manner.

Trust. Me.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Are you on drugs? That's so stupid to think... #$%^... that'd be like Wolverine's skeleton climbing out of a molten steel vat!!!!!!!!!11

Give me evidence that Daredevil can do such a thing.

He's flipped over a limo and thrown a 400lbs barbell like a baseball. A two ton strength feat isn't exactly far outside what he is capable of. Batman and DD have both bent steel bars like they were construction cleaners, you would be surprised if either of them ripped up a section of rail road track?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He's flipped over a limo and thrown a 400lbs barbell like a baseball. A two ton strength feat isn't exactly far outside what he is capable of. Batman and DD have both bent steel bars like they were construction cleaners, you would be surprised if either of them ripped up a section of rail road track?
wtf do you think Captain Obvious? Weren't you the one in utter disbelief that Shadowland DD was pummeling the sh1t out of Wolverine through a pillar and leaping dozens of feet into the air and it HAD to be an amp? Or was that someone else?
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Punisher was thrown thousands of feet into the air, came down on the side of a sky scrapper, fell of the sky scrapper, got hit by a car when he landed... and he kept fighting like it was nothing
"thrown" =/= kicked in the face. "he kept fighting like it was nothing" =/= unphased and making wry requests.

Evidence evidence evidence. I cannot make bricks without clay. Give me real evidence. This is not real evidence. Once you give me real evidence, I will tell you. But so far, you haven't done so. But trust me, I'll tell you when you present me real evidence. Scout's honor.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
wtf do you think Captain Obvious? Weren't you the one in utter disbelief that Shadowland DD was pummeling the sh1t out of Wolverine through a pillar and leaping dozens of feet into the air and it HAD to be an amp? Or was that someone else? "thrown" =/= kicked in the face. "he kept fighting like it was nothing" =/= unphased and making wry requests.

Evidence evidence evidence. I cannot make bricks without clay. Give me real evidence. This is not real evidence. Once you give me real evidence, I will tell you. But so far, you haven't done so. But trust me, I'll tell you when you present me real evidence. Scout's honor.

I knew Daredevil was possessed by the Beast and was allegedly more powerful than Ghost Rider issues before Shadow Land... because I was reading Daredevil. 🤨

Stop nick picking. They might not be identical by they are all close enough to be comparable. Be glade I'm a good sport, I could have just done what you did and provided completely irrelevant feats of Shang-Chi's pre-cog or something.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I knew Daredevil was possessed by the Beast and was allegedly more powerful than Ghost Rider issues before Shadow Land... because I was reading Daredevil.
The hell are you talking about. When did Daredevil don the black suit before Shadowland #1 was published?
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Stop nick picking. They might not be identical by they are all close enough to be comparable. Be glade I'm a good sport, I could have just done what you did and provided completely irrelevant feats of Shang-Chi's pre-cog or something.
You want ME to stop nitpicking?! What does THIS look like:
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
. . Perspicaciously placed sound effects now? That has more to do with composition and aesthetics . . .

. . . Was the intent for him to have been stabbed in the brain? Maybe but it isn't stated and when the villain responsible is a high level telepath . . .

. . . Midnighters double is not Midnighter. . . .

. . . A rail road track is a piece of steel (or carbon steel alloy if it is newer) . . .

. . . It wasn't a win, it was a temporary intermission. Slade knocked Batman over, and didn't press him . . .

. . . I didn't say "a lot of flesh", just enough move, and there very well could be. The hand clearly isn't stripped to the bone in the second panel for instance. . . .

LOL

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Originally posted by OneDumbG0
The hell are you talking about. When did Daredevil don the black suit before Shadowland #1 was published? You want ME to stop nitpicking?! What does THIS look like: LOL

He didn't but the events were seeded prior to Shadow Land and anyone who was reading Daredevil before the event knew what was going on.

None of that is nitpicking. Next time if you don't understand what a word means, you should just ask. I'd be happy to help you.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/nitpick

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He didn't but the events were seeded prior to Shadow Land and anyone who was reading Daredevil before the event knew what was going on.
That DD was amped by the Beast AND more powerful than Ghost RIder?! BEFORE Shadowland #1?! Stop making sh1t up, PLEASE.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
None of that is nitpicking. Next time if you don't understand what a word means, you should just ask. I'd be happy to help you.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/nitpick

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Yeah... Wolverine stabbing his claws through his own eyes... and him having brain damage thereafter... him clawing his brain is NOT the most likely cause of his brain damage. Somehow... telepathy is the more likely culprit....

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAA

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Originally posted by OneDumbG0
That DD was amped by the Beast AND more powerful than Ghost RIder?! BEFORE Shadowland #1?! Stop making sh1t up, PLEASE. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Yeah... Wolverine stabbing his claws through his own eyes... and him having brain damage thereafter... him clawing his brain is NOT the most likely cause of his brain damage

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Before Shadow Land we knew that the spell took place. We knew that the spell was for the Beast to take a host. We knew the host had to be a nobel warrior corrupted by his own hand. We knew that the Beast was allegedly more powerful than the Hands "Great Enemy." And we knew that the "Great Enemy" was Ghost Rider.

The most likely cause is that he had brain damage as a result of a high level telepath messing around in his head... or did you think he got x-ray thermal vision from gouging his eyes out?

Also... that's not nitpicking. Nitpicking is obsessing over trivial details. For instance: He was thrown not kicked and didn't make a witty remark! Is nitpicking. While: He wasn't stabbed in the brain. Is not. Like I said, if you need help just ask.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Before Shadow Land we knew that the spell took place. We knew that the spell was for the Beast to take a host. We knew the host had to be a nobel warrior corrupted by his own hand. We knew that the Beast was allegedly more powerful than the Hands "Great Enemy." And we knew that the "Great Enemy" was Ghost Rider.
WHERE did we know that DD was more powerful than Ghost Rider BEFORE Shadowland #1 was published. What issue #, what scene? "[A]llegedly more powerful than Ghost Rider issues before Shadow Land." Show us.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The most likely cause is that he had brain damage as a result of a high level telepath messing around in his head... or did you think he got x-ray thermal vision from gouging his eyes out?
What does your idiotic focus on thermal vision have to do with telepathy being more probable for the brain damage than Wolverine clawing his own brains here?!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Stryfe using tp is a more probable cause for Wolverine's brain damage than Wolveirne simpyl being forced to claw his brains through his own eyes?!

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You don't think that the "thermal vision" has to do with the fact that Wolverine bereft of his vision could only hear the blood pumping in his veins and heart? Even if you can't put two and two together, how is spontaneous thermal vision more evidence of telepathic brain damage?! Da. F@ck?!

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Also... that's not nitpicking. Nitpicking is obsessing over trivial details. For instance: He was thrown not kicked and didn't make a witty remark! Is nitpicking. While: He wasn't stabbed in the brain. Is not. Like I said, if you need help just ask.
There is a stark difference between someone picking a person up and throwing them 100 yards (Jackass Movie performers do that sh1t on Wednesdays)... and someone kicking a person in the chin with such force that they get sent flying 100 yards (they would die on impact).

Stop feigning logic. You're better at exuding retard at this point. Thanks for exposing how ridiculous your logic is by trying to accuse me of being too specific on the differences between the feats. Getting thrown 100 yards and unphased... getting kicked in the chin and sent flying 100 yards and unphased. Retardspeak says, "No difference, nitpicker." I choose not to speak in retard.

i can feel the love in here.

Better than in your rear.