Cassandra Cain Vs Midnighter

Started by SamZED13 pages

What does Wolverine have to do with this anywa? MN kicking the tank shell isnt necessary PIS, but the showing doesnt make him twice stronger than Cap, Wolverine, Deathstroke etc

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
WHERE did we know that DD was more powerful than Ghost Rider BEFORE Shadowland #1 was published. What issue #, what scene? "[A]llegedly more powerful than Ghost Rider issues before Shadow Land." Show us. What does your idiotic focus on thermal vision have to do with telepathy being more probable for the brain damage than Wolverine clawing his own brains here?!

I don't know off the top of my head, go read the issues, it's not my job to hold your hand through everything. Seriously though, what did you think? Were you under the impression that Shadow Land started with no lead in and Dare Devil was possessed with no back story?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
You don't think that the "thermal vision" has to do with the fact that Wolverine bereft of his vision could only hear the blood pumping in his veins and heart? Even if you can't put two and two together, how is spontaneous thermal vision more evidence of telepathic brain damage?! Da. F@ck?!

I don't know what your unthealth obcession with Wolverine is about, but you should talk to a professional.

It's rendered as thermal x-ray vision. Not exactly a very instinctual depiction of sound... and there aren't even any sound effects on the panels.

Stabbing yourself in the eyes doesn't spontaneous allow the human body to see different wave lengths of electromagnetic radiation. That we know. Does a telepathic assault? Who can say? We don't know what effects that might have because it's not real. There is no inherent set of rules or logic in place. A telepathic assault rewiring the brain, or something similar could very well cause what was depicted on panel, a brain hemorrhage could not.

Not to mention that even if we decide indulge your asinine theories, we are left with several examples of Wolverine taking far greater damage to the orbital cavity without suffering any brain damage... or any negative side effects for that matter. He has even even tanked an explosive round to the orbital, and had his powers scrambled shortly after... still no brain damage.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
There is a stark difference between someone picking a person up and throwing them 100 yards (Jackass Movie performers do that sh1t on Wednesdays)... and someone kicking a person in the chin with such force that they get sent flying 100 yards (they would die on impact).

I don't watch Jackass, I'm not a teenage boy, but I doubt that they have ever tossed someone the length of a football field in any direction, especially vertically the height of a skyscraper.

Punisher was tossed hundreds, maybe thousands of feet into the air. tanked the landing on the corner of a sky scrapper, feel off the skyscraper... and then tanked getting smoked by a car. Midnighter tanked the attack, Punisher tanked the landing (he was puncehd through a wall and across a parking lot by Spider-man directly prior to being tossed as well)... and everyone knows it's the landing that kills you.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I don't know off the top of my head, go read the issues, it's not my job to hold your hand through everything. Seriously though, what did you think? Were you under the impression that Shadow Land started with no lead in and Dare Devil was possessed with no back story?
The Beast was revealed to have possessed Murdock in the latter issues of Shadowland and the Ghost Rider tie-ins. NOT. BEFORE. If you're going to talk out of your a$$, at least base it in some sense of chronological order. You telling ME to reread Shadowland is utter f@cking irony.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I don't know what your unthealth obcession with Wolverine is about, but you should talk to a professional.

It's rendered as thermal x-ray vision. Not exactly a very instinctual depiction of sound... and there aren't even any sound effects on the panels.

Stabbing yourself in the eyes doesn't spontaneous allow the human body to see different wave lengths of electromagnetic radiation. That we know. Does a telepathic assault? Who can say? We don't know what effects that might have because it's not real. There is no inherent set of rules or logic in place. A telepathic assault rewiring the brain, or something similar could very well cause what was depicted on panel, a brain hemorrhage could not.

Thanks for the retardspeak. Your incessant whining about thermal vision, as opposed to Wolverine simply relying on listening to the blood pumping through Cable's veins and heart (hence the focus on them artwise) BECAUSE HE IS BLIND... is somehow proof of a telepathic assault? And that telepathic assault is ALSO responsible for brain damage? Instead of Stryfe literally forcing Wolverine to sheathe his outer claws and poking his middle claws into his eye sockets through to the brain?! Look at the scans:

THIS. IS. WHAT. I. AM. TALKING. ABOUT.

You can't even read this god damn clear-as-day scene as Wolverine poking holes in his brain through his eye sockets because of your butt-hurt. I throw it into your face over and over again and even ridicule you over this blatantly obvious scene... and you STILL can't let it go! You even invent some random telepathic assault via thermal vision nonsense to divert attention! What lengths won't you go to, to avoid the obvious?

Accordingly, what purpose is served by posting evidence of Midnighter's enhanced strength/speed? Nothing. I could show you a scene of Wolverine standing on two legs... and if it meant that Wolverine was somehow not as uber as you make him to be... you'd argue he was standing on three legs. You don't give a phuck about evidence if it was evidence that proved you wrong.

That's how utterly far gone you are. Obvious troll is obvious.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Punisher was tossed hundreds, maybe thousands of feet into the air. tanked the landing on the corner of a sky scrapper, feel off the skyscraper... and then tanked getting smoked by a car.
Was Punisher unphased when he landed and made a wry comment? No? Good job failing, once again, to see that Punisher being flung thousands of feet into the air and then landing hurt... is different from Punisher being kicked thousands of feet into the air and unhurt and then landing unhurt.

Retardspeak. The language of Wolvertards. As translated by Wolverithmetics professor, srankmissingnin.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
The Beast was revealed to have possessed Murdock in the latter issues of Shadowland and the Ghost Rider tie-ins. NOT. BEFORE. If you're going to talk out of your a$$, at least base it in some sense of chronological order. You telling ME to reread Shadowland is utter f@cking irony.

Maybe I'm remembering interviews / advanced previews, but I'm pretty pretty sure that in Diggels run before Shadow Land what was about to happen was seeded clear enough for anyone paying attention to figure it out. Regardless of where I read it I knew DD was possessed by the Beast prior to the first issue of Shadow Land.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
You can't even read this god damn clear-as-day scene as Wolverine poking holes in his brain through his eye sockets because of your butt-hurt. I throw it into your face over and over again and even ridicule you over this blatantly obvious scene... and you STILL can't let it go! You even invent some random telepathic assault via thermal vision nonsense to divert attention! What lengths won't you go to, to avoid the obvious?

We've already been over this? Do you remember champ? No? That's okay budy, you'll get it eventually, everyone moves at their own pace. You are just a special little boy... but fell bad, because you are good at other thing. Like colouring, sure, not inside the lines, but you scribble with such enthusiasm, and at the end of the day that counts for something.

I adapt my theories to suit facts. You manipulate facts to suit theories. Wolverine stabbing himself in the brain is complete speculation on your part. What happened on panel is he stabbed himself in the eyes. He couldn't have stabbed himself in the brain, his skull is Adamantium. So how can we make sense of what happened with out ignoring the facts? Easy! He was mind controlled, the brain damage was the residual effects of a telepathic assault. Notice how my theories takes everything into account, doesn't contradict Wolverine's history and still works? Notice how yours doesn't? Notice how that is a pretty common trend? Yeah... me too...

Cliffnotes: (write this down so you can remember) Wolverine never stabbed himself in the brain. He can't. His skull is Adamantium. He stabbed himself in the eyes. The mind control cause the brain damage. Move on.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
That's how utterly far gone you are. Obvious troll is obvious. Was Punisher unphased when he landed and made a wry comment? No?

I forgot, Punisher didn't make a sarcastic comment, so the two are completely incomparable!!! 😱

Putz.

Srank, Punishers shield broke part of the fall and he wasn't unphased! He was clearly hurt from the fall.

facepalm

He didn't have a shield, he was wearing a back pack...

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He didn't have a shield, he was wearing a back pack...

I'm pretty sure he has his shield in his backpack.

When you all say shield in the backpack do you mean tech for a force field? Or a shield like Cap.

What title/issue number was that Pun feat because that is a crazy durability feat.

Punisher Annual. I don't think he had a shield in his backpack. It wasn't a big pack, and he didn't use a shield the whole issue... and considering Spider-man was smacking him around the whole time it would have been useful.

Guys, on topic pls.

^ its relevnat to the topic. Srank is comparing MN feats to other street levelers.

whether wolverine has bone in his eyes isn't really relevant.

Has Cass even been mentioned in the last few pages?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Has Cass even been mentioned in the last few pages?

who?

and further more...... who cares! 😱

Originally posted by -Pr-
whether wolverine has bone in his eyes isn't really relevant.

Want to make an executive decision on whether character who has only ever displayed class 2 -5 strength having a single example of class 50-75 strength is PIS? Because that would save us a lot of time.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Want to make an executive decision on whether character who has only ever displayed class 2 -5 strength having a single example of class 50-75 strength is PIS? Because that would save us a lot of time.

what examples are you referring to?

Originally posted by -Pr-
what examples are you referring to?

Midnighter kicking redirecting a tank shell. I think that level of strength is PIS for a character who doesn't have a single other feat suggesting he is stronger than Captain America. We've been fighting about it for 8 pages.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Midnighter kicking redirecting a tank shell. I think that level of strength is PIS for a character who doesn't have a single other feat suggesting he is stronger than Captain America. We've been fighting about it for 8 pages.

can you repost the scan, please?

is there anything in his skills that suggest he could do it without strength?

Originally posted by -Pr-
can you repost the scan, please?

is there anything in his skills that suggest he could do it without strength?

Yes, theoretically his battle computer could have calculated the exact spot to hit the missile to redirect it ala Amadeus Cho. Which is what I suggested initially.

In my mind it is either an example of blatant PIS or the result of his battle computer, because here is nothing in Midnighter's history that supports or even suggests he has anywhere near that level of strength. He hasn't demonstrated anything above class two strength before that incident or since, hell he has even been reference as not having any superhuman attributes on occasion.

Well apparently lifting a train track and bending it is a class 2 strength and its something Daredevil could do.