Originally posted by Deadline
Right...I know you didn't but since you gave the thumbs to a quote were somebody said that the team was pitiful and this thread sucked, I made the assumption you may have agreed with that statment.
The JLA may have more heralds but that team had alot more of them and quite few high-metas.
compared to the JLA, it was a weak team, though.
Originally posted by -Pr-
compared to the JLA, it was a weak team, though.
I don't know about. Black Bolt has gone toe-to-toe with Gladiator and beaten The Hulk he can fight Superman. Flash isn't going to go at FTL speed straight away and hes going to get punked, hes not dodging all of them. MM is probably going to fight physically at first. Batman and Plastic Man could be taken out by Emma.
Can Hal Jordan, WW and MM really beat the combined might of the rest of the team (which includes Dr Strange and Emma Frost)?
Originally posted by Deadline
I don't know about. Black Bolt has gone toe-to-toe with Gladiator and beaten The Hulk he can fight Superman. Flash isn't going to go at FTL speed straight away and hes going to get punked, hes not dodging all of them. MM is probably going to fight physically at first. Batman and Plastic Man could be taken out by Emma.Can Hal Jordan, WW and MM really beat the combined might of the rest of the team (which includes Dr Strange and Emma Frost)?
so you neuter the jla to serve your argument?
Originally posted by -Pr-
so you neuter the jla to serve your argument?
Oh for gods sake, im basing that on how they fight in comics. Y'know CIS. Spiderman doesn't use his webbings he goes h2h first if I mention that in thread I'm trying to suit my arguments GMFAB.
So Superman is going to speedblitz straight away, did you not mention that in your arguments? Please.
Originally posted by Deadline
Oh for gods sake, im basing that on how they fight in comics. Y'know CIS. Spiderman doesn't use his webbings he goes h2h first if I mention that in thread I'm trying to suit my arguments GMFAB.So Superman is going to speedblitz straight away, did you not mention that in your arguments? Please.
CIS doesn't make them fight like idiots, as per the rules of the forum when it comes to full capacity.
GMFAB?
I never said he would. Don't assume.
Originally posted by Deadline
Which isn't exempt from CIS, they fight according to their personality.He would do what?
CIS doesn't make them fight like idiots. It prevents them from nuking the battlefield if there are civilians are present, but someone like Flash isn't going to get hit unless Void either nukes the battlefield, or is faster than him.
This is in the rules.
No, he wouldn't. Not from the get-go.
Originally posted by -Pr-
so you neuter the jla to serve your argument?
Originally posted by -Pr-Don't you realize that all DC characters get neutered but Marvel characters can do things they've never shown based from hyperbole, assumption and powers. Yet the rules clearly use super speed as an example...
CIS doesn't make them fight like idiots, as per the rules of the forum when it comes to full capacity.GMFAB?
I never said he would. Don't assume.
I say we start doing what we've discussed. That will end these issues very quickly.
Originally posted by Badabing
Don't you realize that all DC characters get neutered but Marvel characters can do things they've never shown based from hyperbole, assumption and powers. Yet the rules clearly use super speed as an example...I say we start doing what we've discussed. That will end these issues very quickly.
My mistake. Of course, we should begin as soon as possible. We've delayed far too much already.
Originally posted by -Pr-
CIS doesn't make them fight like idiots. It prevents them from nuking the battlefield if there are civilians are present, but someone like Flash isn't going to get hit unless Void either nukes the battlefield, or is faster than him.This is in the rules.
None of what you posted above mentions personality. I could see him using FTL speeds against Void but not the team we are discussing.
Originally posted by -Pr-
No, he wouldn't. Not from the get-go.
That my point exactly, how the hell did you know that? You deduced that from comics that its his personality to fight that way. If hes not doing that from the get-go why is Flash doing it when there are 100s of examples of him NOT doing it (against the team)?
Originally posted by Badabing
Don't you realize that all DC characters get neutered but Marvel characters can do things they've never shown based from hyperbole, assumption and powers. Yet the rules clearly use super speed as an example...I say we start doing what we've discussed. That will end these issues very quickly.
The rules state its viable tactic not that they will neccesarily use it straight away. The rules mention personality.
People need to stop acting like the Void was all by himself against every hero in Marvel in Siege. This was his team:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_5VgL6ZXwkaw/S0YMCAsVwMI/AAAAAAAAQ_M/kzsPEnfRJ-w/s1600-h/Siege%201-5.jpg
The Hulk was able to take everything the Sentry could dish out. And Superman is both stronger and more durable than the Hulk.
All the JLA needs to do is equal the force of the Hellicarrier crashing into him.
This entire thread is absolutely ridiculous. Superman by himself can beat the Sentry. And so could several other members of the JLA.
Originally posted by Deadline
None of what you posted above mentions personality. I could see him using FTL speeds against Void but not the team we are discussing.That my point exactly, how the hell did you know that? You deduced that from comics that its his personality to fight that way. If hes not doing that from the get-go why is Flash doing it when there are 100s of examples of him NOT doing it (against the team)?
The rules state its viable tactic not that they will neccesarily use it straight away. The rules mention personality.
His personality doesn't make him Rhino.
Except that Flash's is a low showing, not his personality. CIS and full capacity on this forum remove stupidity unless it's an inherent character trait. No jobbing.
FULL CAPACITY + CIS = No low showings.
You get average showings, and you get high showings.
I'm not going to explain this again. I suggest you re-read the rules.
Originally posted by -Pr-I'll get on messenger when I get back. We can get a list of names. biscuits
My mistake. Of course, we should begin as soon as possible. We've delayed far too much already.
Am I mistaken or didn't we already address this CIS confusion a while back? Yes, I seem to remember and explanation involving CIP. As I recall, it explained the difference between characters keeping themselves in check as to not endanger civilians, buildings, etc. We even made a separate thread so people would read it.
It's funny when a poster tries using the rules which we tweek, update and maintain. They should learn not to argue with mods.
Originally posted by Badabing
I'll get on messenger when I get back. We can get a list of names. biscuitsAm I mistaken or didn't we already address this CIS confusion a while back? Yes, I seem to remember and explanation involving CIP. As I recall, it explained the difference between characters keeping themselves in check as to not endanger civilians, buildings, etc. We even made a separate thread so people would read it.
It's funny when a poster tries using the rules which we tweek, update and maintain. They should learn not to argue with mods.
Especially when we spent our own precious time making said rules.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
u base this on what
The argument can definitely be made. He's at least more durable when you consider the fact that Hulk actually gets pierced a lot, he just has a great healing factor.
