Sentry vs. JLA

Originally posted by Sin I AM
of trust me i agree that this thread shouldnt exist...i just disagree that Clark is stronger..he seems to have a finite limit imo barring outside influence (sundipping), whereas Hulk just seems to have the power to be as strong as he needs to be (depending on rage level)...anywho, i honestly dont see how Void wins

No1 has made a compelling argument other than he can reform, hich to my knowledge is a k.o. per forum rules. Loki and Ares arent nearly as durable as the JLArs, and people keep bringing up the fact that their Gods as if that legitimizes Voids feat. I mean yes the are "gods" in the most base sense of the word. But that in itself doesnt classify as an outstanding feat in itself by killing them, as Ares alluded to it himself per Phobos that he's been "killed" before. Lasso, speed-steal, sundip, mind-rape, pummeling( Sentry/Void has weak durability), Magic imbued physical assaults, tactical advantage perp prep, extrmemly durably distraction via PM....and i haven't even mentioned Hal yet. Most of Sentry/Voids abilities are implied hyperbole, which seems to run rampant with Marvel characters. He's not one-shotting anyone here, and with prep along with basic knowedge of whattheir facing it really is spite imo.......but alas thats my opinion 😮‍💨

I agree with almost everything you said here. Especially that this thread is spite.

Except I will say in regards to Hulk's strength vs Superman's, I think what you said about Marvel character's abilities being implied from hyperbole can apply to the Hulk BIG TIME.

I think evidence from actual feats proves that Superman is stronger than the Hulk, but in theory I agree Hulk COULD get stronger than Superman, but it would probably take Hulk seeing Superman raping and killing Betty Ross right in front of him to get him to that level.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
I agree with almost everything you said here. Especially that this thread is spite.

Except I will say in regards to Hulk's strength vs Superman's, I think what you said about Marvel character's abilities being implied from hyperbole can apply to the Hulk BIG TIME.

I think evidence from actual feats proves that Superman is stronger than the Hulk, but in theory I agree Hulk COULD get stronger than Superman, but it would probably take Hulk seeing Superman raping and killing Betty Ross right in front of him to get him to that level.

But Hulk's ability to amp and overwhelm his opponent in the strength side of things was exactly what the EARLY Sentry wished to pour his frustrations into.

A later Sentry/Void would kill or BFR Hulk.

Originally posted by the ninjak
But Hulk's ability to amp and overwhelm his opponent in the strength side of things was exactly what the EARLY Sentry wished to pour his frustrations into.

A later Sentry/Void would kill or BFR Hulk.

BFR?

Yeah catch him in its tentacles an fly out into space and throw him into the Sun kinda BFR.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
The Void wasn't alone. He had an ARMY with him.

I think there was a point in the fighting were everybody focused on Void. I think when Norman went nuts after he was apprehended the other villains weren't interested or booked.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
of trust me i agree that this thread shouldnt exist...

Whatever.

Actually I think this is Bob before he became fully possessed, in that case JLA defintely win.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
People need to stop acting like the Void was all by himself against every hero in Marvel in Siege. This was his team:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_5VgL6ZXwkaw/S0YMCAsVwMI/AAAAAAAAQ_M/kzsPEnfRJ-w/s1600-h/Siege%201-5.jpg

The Hulk was able to take everything the Sentry could dish out. And Superman is both stronger and more durable than the Hulk.

All the JLA needs to do is equal the force of the Hellicarrier crashing into him.

This entire thread is absolutely ridiculous. Superman by himself can beat the Sentry. And so could several other members of the JLA.

This post is stupid. Somebody needs to catch up and get their facts straight.

The Hulk took everything the Sentry dished out, but its unfortunate we're not talking about the Sentry. The same character that took everything the Sentry had to offer also got every bone in his body broken by the Void. You know the Void right? He's the character that made the Hulk cry like a baby with the mere mention of his name. The Hulk is scared shitless of the Void to an embarrasing degree.

Ahhh, the helicarrier moment. The moment when Bob was fighting to regain control. Unfortunately for you, in this forum battle, the Void wont have that problem.

Superman might be able to beat the Sentry (which is debatable), but he isnt doing anything to the Void. As mentioned earlier, if it isnt for the lasso, the JLA die.

Originally posted by tkitna
This post is stupid. Somebody needs to catch up and get their facts straight.

The Hulk took everything the Sentry dished out, but its unfortunate we're not talking about the Sentry. The same character that took everything the Sentry had to offer also got every bone in his body broken by the Void. You know the Void right? He's the character that made the Hulk cry like a baby with the mere mention of his name. The Hulk is scared shitless of the Void to an embarrasing degree.

Ahhh, the helicarrier moment. The moment when Bob was fighting to regain control. Unfortunately for you, in this forum battle, the Void wont have that problem.

Superman might be able to beat the Sentry (which is debatable), but he isnt doing anything to the Void. As mentioned earlier, if it isnt for the lasso, the JLA die.

Exactly what I said earlier. 👆 except the Sentry persona wouldn't have the will to die either. He'll be focused on achieving the requirements of this battle.

Originally posted by tkitna
The moment when Bob was fighting to regain control.

He was?

Wait a minute, wait a minute... are people truly using the hulk to downplay sentry. First thing supes has faced similar characters as the hulk AND LOST. Look at his latest fight against grundy, grundy was outright STOMPING him. On any given day, hulk is physically superior to grundy. Then we have another brick, konvikt giving him a fight and the list goes on.

Hulk is physically stronger than supes or any other high herald, this shouldn't even be debated. Supes has the edge in versatility. Just because hulk (who is a out right beast) did good against sentry doesn't mean that sentry isn't powerful, especially when we have similar people koing supes.

Find a better argument.

Originally posted by Bentley
He was?

Of course he was otherwise he wouldn't have been demanding death when the helicarrier feat brought around his persona. Almost like he was actually watching the carnage Void created and regretted his earlier pact with Void to take control.

In this forum fight the Sentry persona wants to defeat his enemies so such a disadvantage doesn't exist.

We are dealing with an unleashed Sentry/Void, both want to win.

Why does the WWH fight seem to confuse everybody? Except for WBH, WWH was supposed to be the most powerful Hulk ever so we can imagine how strong he must have been. Sentry barely fought back in that fight. All he did was release his energy (which wasnt as impressive as he thought) and egged Hulk on to keep punching him. Seriously, Sentry stood there and let the Hulk beat him in the face while smiling, but we all know how low his durability is.

As good as Planet Hulk was, WWH was that bad. Pak failed with that story.

This thread is giving me a headache 😐

Originally posted by the ninjak
Of course he was otherwise he wouldn't have been demanding death when the helicarrier feat brought around his persona. Almost like he was actually watching the carnage Void created and regretted his earlier pact with Void to take control.

In this forum fight the Sentry persona wants to defeat his enemies so such a disadvantage doesn't exist.

We are dealing with an unleashed Sentry/Void, both want to win.

I agree that Bob wanted Void to stop, but that he was actively fighting against him and if that action actually affected how Void fought it's the thing I haven't seen fully explained.

Originally posted by Bentley
I agree that Bob wanted Void to stop, but that he was actively fighting against him and if that action actually affected how Void fought it's the thing I haven't seen fully explained.

I doubt Bob's intentions to halt the Void's rampage had any effect on Void.
Bob gave over to Void completely after he tried to kill himself and failed.
And hence Siege happened.

Originally posted by iceman24567
This thread is giving me a headache 😐

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
IExcept I will say in regards to Hulk's strength vs Superman's, I think what you said about Marvel character's abilities being implied from hyperbole can apply to the Hulk BIG TIME.

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Hulks powers is hyperbole...the madder the stronger thingy...except his ability is actually demonstrated on panel as opposed to the million exploding suns crap

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Hulks powers is hyperbole...the madder the stronger thingy...except his ability is actually demonstrated on panel as opposed to the million exploding suns crap

When the EARLY Sentry unleashed his frustrations on Hulk in WWH he was a hero who-

1. Sympathised with Hulks situation and questioned whether he should stop him or not.

2. Was very early in his career and was still questioning the limits of his abilities and capabilities.

3. Was not a being who later on displayed the ability to simply toy with him.

Originally posted by the ninjak
When the EARLY Sentry unleashed his frustrations on Hulk in WWH he was a hero who-

1. Sympathised with Hulks situation and questioned whether he should stop him or not.

2. Was very early in his career and was still questioning the limits of his abilities and capabilities.

3. Not a being who later on displayed the ability to simply toy with him.

wtf are u blathering about? stop making excuses for a respectable showing...Sentry wanted to go all out, re-read the dialogue or pester someone for a scan if you doubt me. he was not "holding back" he was releasing his "million exploding suns" and didnt even manage to destroy the city ...it amazes me at the level of fayboyism on this site as of late. People keep saying he wanted to die or lose which is why he lost...bull, point of the matter is, when he was "winning" no1 seems to mention these incidents.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
wtf are u blathering about? stop making excuses for a respectable showing...Sentry wanted to go all out, re-read the dialogue or pester someone for a scan if you doubt me. he was not "holding back" he was releasing his "million exploding suns" and didnt even manage to destroy the city ...it amazes me at the level of fayboyism on this site as of late. People keep saying he wanted to die or lose which is why he lost...bull, point of the matter is, when he was "winning" no1 seems to mention these incidents.

also, be nice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icIwKaci3MI

Originally posted by the ninjak
I doubt Bob's intentions to halt the Void's rampage had any effect on Void.
Bob gave over to Void completely after he tried to kill himself and failed.
And hence Siege happened.

Ok, it seems likely 👆

Originally posted by King Castle
i agree that the hyperbole of million exploding suns crap. but, do we really want to gauge overall strength by collateral damage?

also, be nice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icIwKaci3MI

true, about the collateral damage part, i was going on a rant and u caught me monologuing 😂

but ninjak is correct in one response, sentry was no longer in control once the void persona appeared, he had completely given himself over to him