Originally posted by JakeTheBankTypical Thor will be hard pressed to hit Gorgon in a melee fight.
And yet, once again, this thread has been made Wolvie-centric, lol.Thor tags Gorgon and Omega Red based on his feats which support him hitting fast opponents. He would endure more punishment their either of them can as well as dish it out. If Thor does not somehow tag either of them, a missed strike will more than likely collide with the adamantium in the stadium if Thor doesn't choose to do this to begin with. The reverberations play hell with the duo allowing Thor to clean up.
Hence, Thor wins the decisive majority.
^ Right. Like Wolverine couldn't hit Gorg-
... oh. Right.
Originally posted by jinzinK. So if you recognize that Thor can hit Wolverine, right after Thor said he couldn't hit Wolverine. What does that say about any of the statements Thor was making about Wolverine? They're wrong. So then what's the point of this:
No I didn't.Way to fail again.
Originally posted by jinzinWhen even Thor proved himself, Wolverine, and apparently you, wrong? They weren't his fiercest, they weren't his finest... Wolverine wasn't too fast... what's the point of quoting purple prose babble that gets proen wrong within the fight itself?
Except that Wolverine was dodging Thor's "fiercest" and "finest" blows
Acting like Wolverine wasn't ignominiously two-shotted is the only phail here. Seriously.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0Nah, you're wrong, Thor never said Wolverine was too fast to be hit.
^ Right. Like Wolverine couldn't hit Gorg-... oh. Right. K. So if you recognize that Thor can hit Wolverine, right after Thor said he couldn't hit Wolverine. What does that say about any of the statements Thor was making about Wolverine? They're wrong. So then what's the point of this: When even Thor proved himself, Wolverine, and apparently you, wrong?
Originally posted by OneDumbG0He wasn't. That's not what happened. Sorry you have a hard time accepting that fact.
Acting like Wolverine wasn't ignominiously two-shotted is the only phail here. Seriously.
Originally posted by jinzinGlad to see you've seen the light. Many others haven't even gotten past this one.
Nah, you're wrong, Thor never said Wolverine was too fast to be hit.He wasn't. That's not what happened. Sorry you have a hard time accepting that fact.
Like you can't believe that Wolverine can be shot through the eye, amirite?
Originally posted by jinzin
Typical Thor will be hard pressed to hit Gorgon in a melee fight.
I disagree, but since we're probably not going to change either of our opinions, the fact remains that even a missed strike has a very good chance of colliding with the arena in which case neither Red or Gorgon are going to fare too well. If he manages only a glancing blow, both of them will be hurting. A direct hit will damage them something fierce if not one shot them. Either way, considering Thor's speed and strength and Mjolnir's properties this is a bad match for the team even with Thor handicapped.
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
I love this site. People claiming Wolverine > Thor. The Void can't be killed by the Presence, that the Hulk is stronger than Superboy Prime, a blast from a well fed Galactus couldn't kill the Juggernaut, and that Thanos is more powerful than Odin. I wonder how many people here even read comics.
^ KMC Truths, right thur, pal.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Who argued that Cap and Wolverine can't tag Thor? Also, Thor's beaten every speedster he's faced. Also, since when is Wolverine's speed supposed to be insurmountable?
Well there's the problem as I mentioned.
Thor can and has beaten someone like a modern Quicksilver (who was able to dodge Thor's lightning and thus likely lightspeed +), and let's say we all agree that this is completely within his abilities...that pretty much immediately precludes the possibility of Cap or Logan being able to tag Thor if he doesn't want to be tagged.
So, is Wolverine tagging Thor as much as he did an example of PIS and thus one just throws it out? Or is it CIS and Thor was simply not fighting to the best of his ability? And from there, how do we judge Thor's entire history of feats against honest to goodness speedsters vs the notion that someone like Peter Parker can seemingly blitz him (i.e. appear as if he's attacking him multiple times in a single panel)? How does one come to a consensus?
And I'm not arguing for anything resembling Wolverine having insurmountable speed dude. I'm talking about Thor, he's my focus here. Wolverine is just an easy name to use in examples since he's already being talked about.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Glad to see you've seen the light. Many others haven't even gotten past this one.Like you can't believe that Wolverine can be shot through the eye, amirite?
No one thinks Wolverine's too fast to be hit by Thor so I'm not sure what you're on about.
That's another discussion that doesn't need to be thrown in here.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I disagree, but since we're probably not going to change either of our opinions, the fact remains that even a missed strike has a very good chance of colliding with the arena in which case neither Red or Gorgon are going to fare too well. If he manages only a glancing blow, both of them will be hurting. A direct hit will damage them something fierce if not one shot them. Either way, considering Thor's speed and strength and Mjolnir's properties this is a bad match for the team even with Thor handicapped.
Like you said, we disagree.
Originally posted by PillarofOsirisNo one thinks Wolverine>Thor unless Thor is handicapped for the sake of a h2h matchup.
I love this site. People claiming Wolverine > Thor. The Void can't be killed by the Presence, that the Hulk is stronger than Superboy Prime, a blast from a well fed Galactus couldn't kill the Juggernaut, and that Thanos is more powerful than Odin. I wonder how many people here even read comics.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Seeing as Thor managed to both hit and grab Wolverine, Wolverine obviously wasn't faster than him.Either that, or Thor's skill is just so much greater than Wolverine's that he was able to anticipate where Wolverine was going to be and attack accordingly.
Wolverine can be faster and more skilled than Thor and still be tagged by him the gap in either category is not great enough for Wolverine to remain flawless.
^ It's not enough for Wolverine to prevent himself from getting two-shotted either. Go figure.
Originally posted by jinzinYou missed much of the past discussion, which were the impetus for many of my comments. That is, stripping Thor's purple prose comments of any probative value since they were in fact, utterly false. But this thread has had many posters contribute. So I don't hold it against you.
No one thinks Wolverine's too fast to be hit by Thor so I'm not sure what you're on about.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Well there's the problem as I mentioned.Thor can and has beaten someone like a modern Quicksilver (who was able to dodge Thor's lightning and thus likely lightspeed +), and let's say we all agree that this is completely within his abilities...that pretty much immediately precludes the possibility of Cap or Logan being able to tag Thor if he doesn't want to be tagged.
So, is Wolverine tagging Thor as much as he did an example of PIS and thus one just throws it out? Or is it CIS and Thor was simply not fighting to the best of his ability? And from there, how do we judge Thor's entire history of feats against honest to goodness speedsters vs the notion that someone like Peter Parker can seemingly blitz him (i.e. appear as if he's attacking him multiple times in a single panel)? How does one come to a consensus?
And I'm not arguing for anything resembling Wolverine having insurmountable speed dude. I'm talking about Thor, he's my focus here. Wolverine is just an easy name to use in examples since he's already being talked about.
Thor has an entire history of being hit/beat on/ or put into precarious situations or prolonged battles with people who don't have anything even approaching light speed combat speed and reflexes and those battles make up the majority of his career.
Originally posted by jinzinLike Flash or Superman, right? Winning logic right here.
Thor has an entire history of being hit/beat on/ or put into precarious situations or prolonged battles with people who don't have anything even approaching light speed combat speed and reflexes and those battles make up the majority of his career.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ It's not enough for Wolverine to prevent himself from getting two-shotted either. Go figure. You missed much of the past discussion, which were the impetus for many of my comments. That is, stripping Thor's purple prose comments of any probative value since they were in fact, utterly false. But this thread has had many posters contribute. So I don't hold it against you.
Apparently it was since he wasn't two shot.
I think the suggestion by Thor was that Wolverine was faster than himself, but I don't think that such an opinion would automatically preclude that he was too fast to be hit.
Silva's faster AND more skilled than Sonnen in stand-up, didn't stop him from catching a staggering punch to the jaw in the first round of their fight.
IMO Wolverine would have to be some sort of speedster to be unhittable to a guy like Thor.