The Gorgon and Omega Red vs Thor in Melee Fight

Cap, Wolverine, & Spidey all beat up speedsters; doesn't make them as fast or faster.
No one has a problem with Thor deflecting projectiles, it's just not that impressive as it's a typical street-feat (wait, you bring up bullet blocking after calling it garbage?).
Thor fought Wolverine... Thor failed to wreck him at all much less utterly.

Wolverine didn't get two shot by Thor. That's a horrendous interpretation of the events, though it's nice to see you give Batman "handling" Wonder Woman a nod because it happened "on panel". Hypocrisies.

Nothing "panned" about Thor having a host of comparible and typical speed feats to Wolverine, failing to two shot Wolverine, or having the wealth of his career consist of being hit by slower characters than Wolverine and performing slower than Logan in fights a majority of the time. Those are just the facts.
Again the Wolverine brain issue? That's another argument with it's own thread, go discuss it there.

Thor vs. Wolverine "in h2h" (see you erasing context again), which is something that the Marvel editorial staff apparently agrees with me about.

You should probably seek some help for your anger and compensation issues though. This isn't the place to lash out at people. Maybe you should be a cage fighter?

You're just arguing to argue. I get it. There's literally no point to it. If it was about the argument itself... about challenging your argumentative skills or something... you'd try coming up with better than "IDLI, IDH." I mean... if you're going to completely molest a pointless argument to oblivion, you could at least do it with at least some veneer of proper form. You don't get to cherry-pick. You don't get to lowball. You don't get to pretend stuff doesn't happen, when it does (even several times over). You don't get to rewrite history.

Last couple of pages... nothing but. Utterly pointless.

No, we haven't reached "Wolverine stalemated Thor" levels yet. But "Thor didn't two-shot Wolverine" is literally one step from it. What endlessly enduring inanity.

Originally posted by jinzin
Thor fought Wolverine... Thor failed to wreck him at all much less utterly.

I'm not actually. Sorry you feel that way.

"I don't like it, it didn't happen" is exactly what you're doing when you say Thor two shot Wolverine, or suggest that the fight didn't show us Wolverine's typically faster than Thor in h2h combat.
Cherry-picking is exactly what you're doing with Thor's feats versus his career.
People having a differing, informed opinion than you based on facts and information supporting them is not a low-ball, it's a differing opinion.

What happened, in the history of Marvel consisted of Wolverine proving he was typically faster than Thor on panel and Thor cementing that notion through narrative.

If you feel these arguments are pointless, then perhaps you should drop them or refrain from provoking them.

Wolverine wasn't two shot. He was fine after the fight and Thor wasn't.
And if you want to argue in a thread concerning h2h, then your insistance on your interpretation doesn't matter anyway as Thor had to use his lightning. If there's fail in this discussion I think I know where it's coming from.

No, all you're doing is trying to bring Thor down to Wolverine's level. Which is made wholly apparent by appealing to Cap and Spidey. Phucking amazing maneuver right thar. And only exacerbated by the number of phail bait threads. Transparent is transparent. Don't bring Thor down to Wolverine's level. It's a phailtastic proposition, no matter how much you try to dress it up or pretend that isn't exactly what you're trying to do. Crusade of misinformation and illogic, it is.

Y'know, that literally makes this "jinzin and the Last Crusade." The last hurrah before you completely jump the shark even more than you have. Eventually you'll degenerate to "Wolverine stalemated Thor" and it'll be "jinzin and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" levels of phail.

Don't do it to yourself. Don't do it to us. None of us deserve anymore than what we already put up with.

Thor stripped of some powers in a h2h fight is Wolverine's level. Sorry you don't like it, Marvel does. So I guess I'm appealing to Marvel.
Which btw: bringing up names to explain a principle is bad but appealing to Superman and Flash is okay?
Proves right there:
Anything you seem to think I'm doing or accusing me of is something you've already done. Hypocrite.

Sorry I don't buy into your perspectives and it upsets you (KMC may not be the place for you). I don't find them warranted but I do find them flawed.

Originally posted by jinzin
Thor stripped of some powers in a h2h fight is Wolverine's level.

/shark jumped

/Kingdom of the Crystal Skull levels of phail reached

/thread

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Christ. Can't even bring myself to insult you.

/shark jumped

/Kingdom of the Crystal Skull levels of phail reached

/thread

Sorry you disagree with me... and Marvel. Perhaps you should go get a job there and correct the way Thor apparently needs to be portrayed.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Well ok cool, you are in the camp that believes his speed more typically lies on the enhanced human side of things, in a similar category to the wolverines and captain americas of the world.

On the other hand, PillarofOsiris is in the other camp that argues he has fairly consistent FTL reflexes throughout his career and other lower showings can be chalked up to CIS.

Who is winrar?? uhuh

I'm definitely not a computer virus, though ODG may disagree. 🙂

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Whoops! Sorry, misread on the rearead. Yeah, blame it on no sleep on my part. >_< I kinda did a re-read and misread it that time...

Geeez, I must be slipping...! Must be the workload I'm getting. I'm usually more thorough than that....! >_<

Originally posted by jinzin
Sorry you disagree with me... and Marvel. Perhaps you should go get a job there and correct the way Thor apparently needs to be portrayed.

Originally posted by jinzin
Thor stripped of some powers in a h2h fight is Wolverine's level.

That's obvious, but you apparently have a problem with Thor failing to two shot Wolverine or being slower than Wolverine is in combat... both of which took place on panel. Or being slower than Wolverine typically is in fights in general.

No one's throwing fits here. You're the only one here using blatent insults and resorting to antics.

I'll stand by that statement as it's been my opinion for years and now supported "on panel" by Marvel writers and the Marvel editorial staff. If you have issue with that, take it up at Marvel.

^ Yeah. Your delusion that Thor is on Wolverine's level is a Marvel fact.

You just made baby Jesus crap twice in his diaper.

I mean, pretending Wolverine didn't get two-shotted only made Him chuckle. This trainwreck though... complete butt burst x2. Thanks for completely owning up to how far degraded your opinions actually are. I suppose I helped that along.

Thor is on Wolverine's level "when he's stripped of certain powers and forced into a h2h confrontation".
Again you erase context from the conversation that matters given your criticisms (there's that transparency you described).
That notion, and the fact that Thor failed to two shot Logan are both represented on panel. Sorry it upsets you so much.

My opinions are supported by Marvel. Your's... I don't know but apparently Crystal Skulls and baby Jesus fit in there somewhere (which honestly explains a lot).

Nah. This is just you adding another gem to the Wolverithmetics Treasury. We've got classics like "Sabretooth grows an entire body from his left nut," "Wolverine throws 25 full punches in one second," "Wolverine gets shot through the eyes, but it doesn't count... somehow," and now this:

"Thor stripped of some powers in a h2h fight is Wolverine's level."

Amazing. Gift that keeps giving, you are. Not enough to pretend that Thor didn't two-shot Wolverine... somehow... you get that above statement from that fight. A-mazing.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Nah.

Yeah.

All of those are full of context that you've chosen to ignore like usual, not arguments made by anyone but yourself like usual, and they're all different discussions in different threads.

If Thor being on Wolverine's level in h2h is an issue for you, take it up with Marvel, simple as.
It isn't part of some Wolverine-based conspiracy, if you think it is, you need some help.

I'm pretty sure it's your crown jewel. "Thor stripped of some powers in a h2h fight is Wolverine's level."

Fantastic. I daresay that might beat out "Gorgon beats Wonder Woman." Can we take a vote?

Maybe we should ask Marvel to vote. I'd volunteer to write to Marvel for that.

Why write to Marvel when you can write FOR Marvel and force your opinions down our throats instead?

That would be much more satisfying for your ego I would think...

Oh, and uh... yeah?! well... NU-UH!!!

^ Because that's what you've been telling me to do for the entire page. That I should write to Marvel. What are you, drunk?

My satisfaction comes from the sheer win you laid down. Thor's on Wolverine's level. But on second thought, it doesn't beat "Gorgon beats Wonder Woman." Because all the arguments you whined about Cap and Spidey and speed street level feats... that was actually a repeat of the arguments you tried to lowball Wonder Woman's speed for dozen+ pages.

I can't, in all good conscience, award you points from being unoriginal and regurgitating old phail arguments. C'est la vie.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Basically, lazer dodzing unless blatantly specified or proved to be a FTL feat is not FTL. It's simply far too much of a misused trope to qualify on its own.

Usually I'm cool with real life analogues for feat calcs, but for certain things it just doesn't add up within the story, and lazer dodging is THE prime example. How many peak human level characters have we seen be able to dodge 'lazers' so to speak?

At most it can be assigned as a high hypersonic reaction feat as you can comfortably assume that they (writers that is) at least intended the lazers to be faster than bullet speed.

So yeah, we all agree that Wolverine is not FTL in CQC, but what feats does Thor have that could possibly designate him as FTL in CQC either? Lazer dodging/blocking don't count.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Oh, my [b]god.

This nonsense needs to stop. Jesus. [/B]

Yeah I also said this like WAY earlier.

Originally posted by jinzin
Sorry you disagree with me... and Marvel. Perhaps you should go get a job there and correct the way Thor apparently needs to be portrayed.

You probably shouldn't lecture others about paying attention.

As for the Wonder Woman/Gorgon fight... was years ago. Honestly Wonder Woman has some feats I was not aware of when that thread went down so I'd be more apt to change my opinion on the matter nowadays... but it's nice to see you subjecting yourself to ad hominem... again... Guess red herrings are better than nothing.