The Gorgon and Omega Red vs Thor in Melee Fight

Started by inimalist117 pages
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Wolverine is fast enough to be invisible to the human eye right?

I don't think that is a consistent showing, no

even spiderman is said to be seen as "bouncing" off walls, and Quicksilver is drawn as a blur. Starhawk moving FTL was described as "being gone before the light hit the retina", not as being too fast to see.

It seems like you are elevating Wolverine into a speed level he has no business being in

Actually Wolverine was moving so fast he was invisable.....

ON PANEL... to we the reader... that's straight up light speed nonsense right there.

Originally posted by jinzin
Actually Wolverine was moving so fast he was invisable.....

ON PANEL... to we the reader... that's straight up light speed nonsense right there.

thats like some meta-trans-dimensional speed right there

so fast it breaks down the 4th wall

Originally posted by inimalist
I don't think that is a consistent showing, no

even spiderman is said to be seen as "bouncing" off walls, and Quicksilver is drawn as a blur. [b]Starhawk moving FTL was described as "being gone before the light hit the retina", not as being too fast to see.

It seems like you are elevating Wolverine into a speed level he has no business being in [/B]

Scan.

And how is this not faster than what we already described? Movement at FTL being imperceptible would be a pre-requisite.

Quicksilver being drawn as a blur is for us the reader. No human can rightfully perceive him going at his current speeds.

And Wolverine being able to be invisible to the naked eye would not put him near Quicksilver and Starhawk. That would only be the case if their speed levels are the entry level requirement to be invisible to the human eye.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Scan.

of which?

Originally posted by CosmicComet
And how is this not faster than what we already described? Movement at FTL being imperceptible would be a laughably low pre-requisite.

Quicksilver being drawn as a blur is for us the reader. No human can rightfully perceive him going at his current speeds.

And Wolverine being able to be invisible to the naked eye would not in anyway shape or form put him near Quicksilver and Starhawk. That would only be the case if their speed levels are the entry level requirement to be invisible to the human eye which isn't the case.

those were the extreme example. Spiderman being visible as he bounces off the walls was more the point. Spider-man is not only faster than wolvs (especially in terms of movement speed), but something changing direction (bouncing off of walls) is harder for the eye to track.

either way, thats sort of A-to-B, B-to-C logic, so I'd just say in general that him not being visible is inconsistent with typical showings, like punisher being able to tag wolverine in motion

Originally posted by inimalist
[B]

, but something changing direction (bouncing off of walls) is harder for the eye to track.

/B]


It also would make him move much slower. If you havent notice spiderman tends to use flashy moves which actually slow him down. Bouncing around would make him much slower then simply blizting in. So I not sure that a good arguement.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Wolverine is fast enough to be invisible to the human eye right?

That would have to make him VERY fast as Wolverine is a lot bigger than a bullet--which of course is also too fast for a human to see when fired.

Gorgon is in turn least as fast as Wolverine no?

It's not far-fetched at all for him to run faster than a bullet when you think about it like this.

And thus, he should be able to cover the 500 meter starting distance pretty much instantly. Now, is Thor still fast enough to start the ground and pound even before he closes that distance?

Maybe, maybe not.

Until I actually see speed feats from Gorgon that place him at that level of speed...No.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
It also would make him move much slower. If you havent notice spiderman tends to use flashy moves which actually slow him down. Bouncing around would make him much slower then simply blizting in. So I not sure that a good arguement.

well, sure

I'd still argue he is moving faster than wolverine, in terms of movement speed

what speed would you like him to show?

Originally posted by inimalist
well, sure

I'd still argue he is moving faster than wolverine, in terms of movement speed

I disagree. Bouncing around would make him move far slower. And he not that much faster then wolverine, who does not use such flashy movements, which is wasted motions. When spiderman does simply blizt in, he always either invisible to the eye or a blur.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
I disagree. Bouncing around would make him move far slower. And he not that much faster then wolverine, who does not use such flashy movements, which is wasted motions. When spiderman does simply blizt in, he always either invisible to the eye or a blur.

fair enough, lets not get this into Spider-Man vs Wolverine territory, LOL!

I do sort of disagree, I see a bigger gap in motion between the two, but do we agree at least that, if SM is a blur when he blitzes, it is unreasonable to think wolverine becomes entirely inperceptable?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Until I actually see speed feats from Gorgon that place him at that level of speed...No.

Well, I already gave you a feat from Wolverine that would put *him* on that level. 😉

And Gorgon can rush that same Wolverine. 😉

In that case, Thor has been stated to be as fast as the lightning he commands.

Therefore Thor blitzs OR and Gorgon in the first 1/1000th of a second.

Originally posted by Silent Master
In that case, Thor has been stated to be as fast as the lightning he commands.

Therefore Thor blitzs OR and Gorgon in the first 1/1000th of a second.

dood, now you're just trolling 😬

Did you see the post I was responding too?

Originally posted by inimalist
thats like some meta-trans-dimensional speed right there

so fast it breaks down the 4th wall

😂 thumbsup

Originally posted by Silent Master
In that case, Thor has been stated to be as fast as the lightning he commands.

Therefore Thor blitzs OR and Gorgon in the first 1/1000th of a second.

Thor's only as fast as the lightning he commands? Wolverine's jumped over lightning as it was shot at him... but must be faster and Gorgon's faster still. 😉

Thor's lightning is magical.

Prove its as fast as real lightning then 😛

Everyone knows magic lightning is slow mane.