Originally posted by Silent MasterDS'S attack doesn't need to land before Havock can activate his power source. DS'S attack needs to land before Havock see's his opponet, assess the situation, decides to blast, activates his power and engages the attack. The attack then finally has to reach DS BEFORE DS's blast reaches Havock. Whoever get's hit and dies first loses, the other wins. Even if havock's blast would have hit and killed stroke a half second after stroke's blast hit and kills havock, the rules say DS still wins.
I'm just arguing that in a quick draw scenario like LP mentioned, there is no way that DS's attack would land before Alex could activate his power like LP claimed.
Originally posted by Silent MasterRight. Havok won't be taken unawares, he'll be ready to enter battle.
Just like you're wrong about Havok not being ready to attackConcerning the Battlefield
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Unless otherwise stated by the thread originator, the standard distance between combatants will be .5 kilometers in line of sight at the onset of battle, and there will be an implied "buzz" to signify the onset of battle. [b]It will be assumed combatants are primed to go at the gun.
He still won't make battle decisions as fast as Deathstroke. Not only does the latter think much, much faster, but what are natural reflexes for Deathstroke are calculated reactions for Havok.
Anyways, this is becoming circular and isn't relevant to the overall thread.
Originally posted by long pig
DS thought process is always noted as instanteous and his mind and body are one with no delay between thinking of pulling his gun and then pulling it and shooting it. so, 1 2 and 3 are simultaneous. So they both only have one step, and Slade steps faster. The limitations of Havock's slow thought process and DS staff are the only question.
Even if it his thoughts are "instanteous", Slade would still have to draw, aim, fire and have the projectile reach Alex. And that gives Alex plenty of time to activate his power.
Originally posted by long pigI think he outreacts them through pis and no, he doesnt have instantaneous reflexes, just shorter reaction times than havok.
You don't get it. srank get's it but just likes arguing against me (not nearly as much as i like arguing against him cuz he's always wrong). Havock's reaction time is 0.2, Slade's reaction time is absolutely INSTANTANEOUS. infinitely faster reaction than Havock's. That 0.2 may as well be an hour. How do you think he out reacts so many speedsters on a regular basis? Instantaneous is a mother****er.
Originally posted by long pigfacepalm read some of havok's feats.
He doesn't? So you disagree with dozens and dozens of in-comic descriptions, hundreds of examples and his creator when asked about his powerset? Fact. Havock doesn't have a omniblast. He's got jubilee level blasts.
yeah, I disagree with anyone that says he can outreact the flash without PIS. instantaneuous reactions don't even make any sense. he's struggled against high end street levellers and low metas on a consitent basis too btw.
Originally posted by The Nuul
Yeah, Alex is damn powerful and has a omniblast but he wont use it right away.
Alex's power IS in the form of an omniblast. Early in his career, he's needed to maintain control of it to fire it in a controlled blast.
He doesn't use an omniblast much cuz he's had teammates, forcing him to learn to use it in controlled bursts.
But w/o the need to worry about teammates...!
Starfire is argubly more powerful than Alex.
Slade claims he's "faster and stronger than anyone else on earth"(meaning humans). He also claims his senses are increased a thousandfold.
http://s915.photobucket.com/albums/ac358/Deathstroke91/?action=view¤t=NewTeenTitans010-09.jpg
He dodged her blasts.
http://s915.photobucket.com/albums/ac358/Deathstroke91/?action=view¤t=NewTeenTitans010-10.jpg
Yet again and kicks her while shes in flight into a wall.
http://s915.photobucket.com/albums/ac358/Deathstroke91/?action=view¤t=NewTeenTitans010-11.jpg
She suprises him with a full strength blast, which he easily tanks, to her amazement. She says "you still live? Impossible!". Then he brings the whole building down wiith a bomb, having already accomplished his goal.
http://s915.photobucket.com/albums/ac358/Deathstroke91/?action=view¤t=NewTeenTitans010-12.jpg
He dodges pointblank gunfire, and smashes open a bamboo cage with a backfist.
Slade evades multiple machine gun fire from a helicopter.
Slade quick draws Alex and IF Alex gets a shot off first Slade will still dodge it. Alex CANNOT dodge a gun. Slade still wins. Also, its NOT in Alexs character to omniblast right off the start. Slade wouldnt have an issue killing him back off the opening bell.
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Alex's power IS in the form of an omniblast. Early in his career, he's needed to maintain control of it to fire it in a controlled blast.He doesn't use an omniblast much cuz he's had teammates, forcing him to learn to use it in controlled bursts.
But w/o the need to worry about teammates...!
Thats nice, he still wont use it just like Scott wont use get off my lawn right away.
At gun, duhhhh. Look at how far he shot Starfire.
http://s915.photobucket.com/albums/ac358/Deathstroke91/?action=view¤t=NewTeenTitans010-09.jpg
Yes he can.
Slade still makes the shot before Alex uses his rare feat.
Originally posted by The Nuul
At gun, duhhhh. Look at how far he shot Starfire.http://s915.photobucket.com/albums/ac358/Deathstroke91/?action=view¤t=NewTeenTitans010-09.jpg
Yes he can.
Slade still makes the shot before Alex uses his rare feat.
Bullets aren't instantaneous.
A bullet travels (even a sniper bullet) about 4000feet/sec or about 1212m/sec. At 500 meter starting distance, gives Havoc half a second to think "omniblast" or "plasma shielding". If that happens, the bullet is vaporized before it hits him. Said this many times alrdy... >_<
