Deathstroke vs Havok

Originally posted by The Nuul
Slade will kill him before Alex even thinks or reacts. Why are you ignoring feats and Slades character?

Slade isn't a telepath, so he needs to do more than just think "kill Havok" and that Starfire scan didn't look like a .5km shot, plus he took time to aim so it wasn't a quickdraw.

There is zero reason to believe that Slade will be able to actually shoot Alex(from .5km away) before Havok is able to activate his power.

Originally posted by Silent Master

There is zero reason to believe that Slade will be able to actually shoot Alex(from .5km away) before Havok is able to activate his power.

Well its possible, but people seem to be arguing its a foregone conclusion.

Originally posted by Deadline
Well its possible, but people seem to be arguing its a foregone conclusion.

That would have to be an extremely fast bullet, as normally the time it would take the bullet to cross that distance would give Alex more than the time needed to activate his power.

Originally posted by Silent Master
That would have to be an extremely fast bullet, as normally the time it would take the bullet to cross that distance would give Alex more than the time needed to activate his power.

Look man lets not get into exact math DS is fast enough to shoot people with superhuman reflexes, he could shoot Havok.

Originally posted by Deadline
Look man lets not get into exact math DS is fast enough to shoot people with superhuman reflexes, he could shoot Havok.

And people w/normal human level reactions are fast enough to react to Slade's attacks. See Batman, Nightwing, Batgirl, Arsenal etc.

Originally posted by Silent Master
And people w/normal human level reactions are fast enough to react to Slade's attacks. See Batman, Nightwing, Batgirl, Arsenal etc.

Yea but they have better reflexes than Havok.

Originally posted by Deadline
Yea but they have better reflexes than Havok.

They were also much closer than .5km.

Originally posted by Silent Master
And people w/normal human level reactions are fast enough to react to Slade's attacks. See Batman, Nightwing, Batgirl, Arsenal etc.

Those characters do not have normal reflexes, they are above normal. Hell, Scott is faster and has a better reaction time than Alex.

Originally posted by Silent Master
They were also much closer than .5km.

You can make arguments for and against. I suspect he might have been holding back ie not shooting to kill.

Originally posted by The Nuul
Hell, Scott is faster and has a better reaction time than Alex.

What? Maybe.

They are all within human limits and the fact remains that they've all been able to react to Slade while much closer than .5km, so there is zero reason for me to believe that Alex will be unable to activate his powers.

Originally posted by Deadline
You can make arguments for and against. I suspect he might have been holding back ie not shooting to kill..

And the examples of him hitting speedsters might likewise be them holding back or jobbing.

Originally posted by Silent Master
They are all within human limits and the fact remains that they've all been able to react to Slade while much closer than .5km, so there is zero reason for me to believe that Alex will be unable to activate his powers.

Significantly better reflexes than Havok, or alot even.

Originally posted by Deadline
Significantly better reflexes than Havok, or alot even.

They also react while significantly closer, I'd say that the .5km distance more than makes up for their better(but still human) reflexes.

Originally posted by Silent Master
They also react while significantly closer, I'd say that the .5km distance more than makes up for their better(but still human) reflexes.

Didn't he kneecap Impulse a long way away?

No, IIRC he shot Impulse with a shotgun from close range.

Originally posted by Silent Master
No, IIRC he shot Impulse with a shotgun from close range.

That doesnt help Impulse >>>>>>>> Havok (probably PIS anyway or not..meh). Anyway I'm pretty sure he sniped a speedster.

I'm fairly sure that Impulse wasn't moving at the time he was shot.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I'm fairly sure that Impulse wasn't moving at the time he was shot.

You think that helps your argument? Did he have his back to him?

Unless I'm confusing feats, Impulse was on the ground at the time. I just don't recall why. and yes, I think that fact that Impulse wasn't moving and thus not using his speed does help my case.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I think that fact that Impulse wasn't moving and thus not using his speed does help my case.

Well unless he doesn't have superhuman reflexes when hes not moving it doesn't. Still not sure wether Impulse could see him.